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Carlempo
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Old February 9th, 2016, 09:58 AM
Is there a list or summary of what is in the SRD and what is not? I'm just trying to decide whether to buy or not. I've read that a number of things are not included but is there any comprehensive list of what's missing?
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Old February 9th, 2016, 05:54 PM
There are other threads discussing this that have links I'm too lazy to look up right now. Suffice it to say, that you likely cannot play most characters in a 5th edition campaign in HL using only the SRD. The value of the SRD is that it provides a framework for the community to fill in the gaps.

If you are not a do-it-your-selfer or are not not comfortable with scripting languages and don't want to deal with the learning curve of using the HL editor to add custom content and rules to fill in the gaps, I would wait a few weeks to a couple months until the community has put of the files with the mechanics necessary to create any character type.

As it is now, you will not have most of the subclasses, none of the freat (well, okay *ONE* feat), no backgrounds, and some spells are missing.

Note that when the community fills in the gaps, due to IP issues, the community files will only have the mechanics. If you want the full flavor text from the PHB, you'll need to fill that in yourself, but that is much easier to edit. It is coding the mechanics that is the challenge. Besides, you don't really need all the flavor text to actually play the character.

Other will have more details. But if you are hoping to buy the SRD for HL and be able to use it to create and play characters in 5e campaigns, off the shelf, you'll be disappointed.

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Old February 9th, 2016, 09:27 PM
Here's our list of what's missing from the PHB.

NAME CATEGORY COMPLETE?
Aberration, Tarrasque Monster 0
Beholder Monster 0
Cambion Monster 0
Demon, Balor to Vrock Monster 0
Devil, Bearded Devil to War Devil Monster 0
Displacer Beast Monster 0
Dracolich Monster 0
Dragonspawn Monster 0
Drider Monster 0
Drow Monster 0
Flameskull Monster 0
Githyanki Monster 0
Githzerai Monster 0
Hook Horror Monster 0
Kruthik Monster 0
Kuo-Toa Monster 0
Mind Flayer Monster 0
Orcus Monster 0
Otyugh Monster 0
Owlbear Monster 0
Sahuagin Monster 0
Shadar-Kai Monster 0
Shifter Monster 0
Slaad Monster 0
Spider, Demonweb Terror Monster 0
Umber Hulk Monster 0
Warforged Monster 0
Yuan-Ti Monster 0
Backgrounds (all PHB) Backgrounds 1
Arcane Gate Spell 1
Armor of Agathys Spell 1
Arms of Hadar Spell 1
Aura of Life Spell 1
Aura of Purity Spell 1
Aura of Vitality Spell 1
Banishing Smite Spell 1
Beast Sense Spell 1
Blade Ward Spell 1
Blinding Smite Spell 1
Branding Smite Spell 1
Chromatic Orb Spell 1
Circle of Power Spell 1
Cloud of Daggers Spell 1
Compelled Duel Spell 1
Compulsion Spell 1
Conjure Barrage Spell 1
Conjure Volley Spell 1
Cordon of Arrows Spell 1
Counterspell Spell 1
Crown of Madness Spell 1
Crusader's Mantle Spell 1
Destructive Wave Spell 1
Dissonant Whispers Spell 1
Druidcraft Spell 1
Eldritch Blast Spell 1
Elemental Weapon Spell 1
Ensnaring Strike Spell 1
Feign Death Spell 1
Find Familiar Spell 1
Fire Bolt Spell 1
Friends Spell 1
Goodberry Spell 1
Grasping Vine Spell 1
Guardian of Faith Spell 1
Hail of Thorns Spell 1
Hellish Rebuke Spell 1
Hex Spell 1
Hunger of Hadar Spell 1
Hunter's Mark Spell 1
Levitate Spell 1
Lightning Arrow Spell 1
Phantasmal Force Spell 1
Poison Spray Spell 1
Power Word Heal Spell 1
Ray of Sickness Spell 1
Searing Smite Spell 1
Spare the Dying Spell 1
Staggering Smite Spell 1
Swift Quiver Spell 1
Telepathy Spell 1
Thorn Whip Spell 1
Thunderous Smite Spell 1
Tsunami Spell 1
Vicious Mockery Spell 1
Witch Bolt Spell 1
Wrathful Smite Spell 1
Mountain Dwarf Sub-Race 1
Wood Elf Sub-Race 1
Dark Elf (Drow) Sub-Race 1
Stout Halfling Sub-Race 1
Human Variant Sub-Race 1
Forest Gnome Sub-Race 1
Barbarian - Path of Totem Warrior Class Option 0.25
Bard - College of Valor Class Option 0.25
Cleric - Knowledge Domain Class Option 0.25
Cleric - Nature Domain Class Option 0.25
Cleric - Light Domain Class Option 0.25
Cleric - Tempest Domain Class Option 0.25
Cleric - Trickery Domain Class Option 0.25
Cleric - War Domain Class Option 0.25
Druid - Circle of the Moon Class Option 0
Fighter - Battle Master Class Option 0
Fighter - Eldritch Knight Class Option 0
Monk - Way of Shadow Class Option 0
Monk - Way of the Four Elements Class Option 0
Paladin - Oath of the Ancients Class Option 0.25
Paladin - Oath of Vengeance Class Option 0.25
Ranger - Beast Master Class Option 0
Rogue - Assassin Class Option 0
Rogue - Arcane Trickster Class Option 0
Sorcerer - Wild Magic Class Option 0
Warlock - The Archfey Class Option 0
Warlock - The Great Old One Class Option 0
Wizard - School of Abjuration Class Option 0
Wizard - School of Conjuration Class Option 0
Wizard - School of Divination Class Option 0
Wizard - School of Enchantment Class Option 0
Wizard - School of Illusion Class Option 0
Wizard - School of Necromancy Class Option 0
Wizard - School of Transmutation Class Option 0
Deities Deities 1
Actor Feat 1
Alert Feat 1
Athlete Feat 1
Charger Feat 1
Crossbow Expert Feat 1
Defensive Duelist Feat 1
Duel Wielder Feat 0
Dungeon Delver Feat 1
Durable Feat 1
Elemental Adept Feat 1
Great Weapon Master Feat 1
Healer Feat 1
Heavily Armored Feat 1
Heavy Armor Master Feat 1
Inspiring Leader Feat 1
Keen Mind Feat 1
Lightly Armored Feat 1
Linguist Feat 1
Lucky Feat 1
Mage Slayer Feat 1
Magic Initiate Feat 0
Martial Adept Feat 0
Medium Armor Master Feat 0
Mobile Feat 1
Moderately Armored Feat 1
Mounted Combatant Feat 1
Observant Feat 0.5
Polearm Master Feat 1
Resilient Feat 1
Ritual Caster Feat 0
Savage Attacker Feat 1
Sentinel Feat 1
Sharpshooter Feat 1
Shield Master Feat 1
Skilled Feat 0
Skulker Feat 1
Spell Sniper Feat 0
Tavern Brawler Feat 0.75
Tough Feat 1
War Caster Feat 1
Weapon Master Feat 0.5
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Old February 10th, 2016, 06:07 AM
Wow, Daplunk, thanks! That's helpful.

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Old February 10th, 2016, 08:13 AM
I bought it thinking it was more complete. (I am really pleased with the M&M 3E content)

I am a little upset with the lack of material. Hard to justify paying $20 to add this to my Hero Lab

I am really hoping that this great community gets all of the information from the PHB into a user file that they post somewhere to share.
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Old February 10th, 2016, 09:39 AM
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I bought it thinking it was more complete. (I am really pleased with the M&M 3E content)

I am a little upset with the lack of material. Hard to justify paying $20 to add this to my Hero Lab

I am really hoping that this great community gets all of the information from the PHB into a user file that they post somewhere to share.
The package is well worth the $20. Sure it is limited, but that is due to licensing issues with WotC. At least with what they can legitimately put out, the rest of us now have a framework which does allow the community to add everything else if we want to put in the effort.

If you can't, or won't, code; then you are right, its not worth your money. For those of us who can and will put in the time and effort, then $20 is darn cheap for what we got.

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Old February 10th, 2016, 11:27 AM
Pay attention to the ones and the zeros. Hopefully things will get better soon.
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Old February 13th, 2016, 03:28 PM
I don't code so there was $20 I could have spent on something useful.
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Old February 13th, 2016, 10:29 PM
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I don't code so there was $20 I could have spent on something useful.
You are easily within 60 days of purchase. So feel free to ask LW for a refund.

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Old February 14th, 2016, 01:17 AM
It's true, if someone can't code HL-SRD5 currently is not usable as standalone tool. Currently.

From an IT manager's perspective, however, the situation is a nightmare. All over the world skilled developers work to achieve the same stuff others did before. A common repository could really help here. Does anybody have plans to set something up?


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