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New here, thinking about buying for my Pathfinder game, couple of questions.

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CapeCodRPGER

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Hello, I have been reading alot of good stuff online about Hero lab and D20 pro. I am thinking about buying both for my Pathfinder game. I have some questions:

1. When you buy the bonus packs for Pathfinder (APG, Beastary, ect.), does it have an installer or do you have to manualy put the new info into the right herolab folders?

2. With D20 pro, does it have the Pathfinder rules built in? Or before a game will I have to maunally put in all the NPC/ monster stats, tresure, ect?

3. With D20 pro, when you import a map can you scale for combat grid use?

Thanks.
 
1 - It has an installer

2 - I don't know if Pathfinder has herolab export capability, I know d20 (3.5) does.

3 - Yes.
 
Thanks. On the Hero Lab pathfinder page, it says you can import the characters to D20 pro. I was wondering if that meant Hero lab had pathfinder support built in.
 
I am not 100% sure I understand your question. What do you mean pathfinder support?

Herolab has Pathfinder as one of your choices when buying. If you choose it and start the program in Pathfinder you can see feats, classes, monsters etc from the base pathfinder setting and make your character with those. You can also buy add-on books like the Advanced Players Guide, Beastiary, etc for more options. All of this might be called support.

Now if you mean d20 pro support for characters, since that was your original post, I would say you have answered your own question. If the pathfinder page says you can import your characters to d20 pro, then I would say that is support.

Does that answer your question?
 
Alright, on second reading of your question, I realize it pertains to d20 Pro rather than Herolab. d20 Pro is flexible enough to work with Pathfinder. You can make characters in Herolab, export them and load them in d20 pro, rather than making them twice.
 
Ok, thanks. I need to clarify my question a bit, too. With D20 pro, does it have the Pathfinder monsters, conditions, ect built in to it or do you have to manually enter those things in? There are enough little difference between 3.5 and Pathfinder that I would think you need a seprate database for each system. Or can you import hero lab beastary entries to D20 Pro from Herolab?
 
On D20Pro, you have separate campaign folders (you will need to create the one for Pathfinder) and this allows you to keep your multiple campaigns/game systems separate. Hero Lab, as Lawful_g has stated, has multiple systems you purchase to use. 3.5 D20 and Pathfinder are separate systems you purchase separately. I have both. Each of them has D20Pro support for output from hero lab to D20Pro. You make/and export to D20Pro format from hero lab and then in D20Pro, you import the desired files to the respective campaign instances. You can only have one campaign instance open in D20Pro at a time, but most folks only work on one system at a time. Remember you can have multiple Pathfinder campaigns within D20Pro (or D20/3.5 for that matter. Now as for D20Pro and monsters and such, there are 2 monster sets I have (one from HL and one from D20Pro) for my pathfinder. There are instructions on all of this on the D20Pro site/Manual/Forums. I would suggest checking them out. The synergy between these two pieces of software is excellent, and has allowed me to synthesize a campaign for Rise of the Runelords in a matter of weeks (almost done with Hook Mountain Massacre). I have the entire Burnt Offerings Module up in the User Created Content on the D20Pro Forums that I did, complete with NPC's for the encounter maps and all of the NPC's for Sandpoint at their correct Location from the guide. I used Dundjinni for some of the maps, along with import from the PDF's and some open content maps from other users. I would not have had this capabillity without the two programs.

:D
 
You can do either. I have made custom monsters on the fly in D20Pro, but I mainly use the ones in the Bestiary. So you can do both. Either or.
 
The only catch to watch for with d20Pro is the Pathfinder configuration files are not the default files and it takes some effort to actually find complete configuration files to support Pathfinder - which is why I have avoided purchasing the program so far. The config files on the "official" site are not complete (i.e. up to date) though browsing the forums should yield you what you need. That said, I personally had a lot of issues with the imports from HL (everything imported fine) in that there was a lot of work to do after they characters were brought in. So, if you are looking for a install and go for Pathfinder in d20Pro I think you will be a bit disappointed. If you are willing to put in effort to add any missing classes and rules tweaks, and tweak each of the characters imported form HL then you should be fine, and d20Pro is actually a fine program.

If PF was it's default system and it handled dynamic vision then I would be sold.
 
I have been working with d20 pro this last week. As sold, d20 pro needs to be configured to support pathfinder. By default they only have the classes/feats/skills/spells of the core books in by default (once you copy the d20 provided files to the correct directory).

There are a number of user initiated replacement files that have updated these four files to some of the APG (the new core classes), but no one has implemented/updated to the new APG achetypes of the old core classes.

While spell names are in d20 pro, you as the gm still have to implement the effects of these spells (surprised me on that).

One other thing. The bestiary monsters are not in d20 by default. You can export from herolab and import them one at a time if you wish, or again there is a user initiated effort to supply all of them for quick import into d20. BigKilla spent 6 weeks placing the entire bestiary onto a single map, meaning that you simply have to load that single map, and then select and import all the bestiary into your d20pro and they are ready to use. Of course they are just basic stats, so still require purchase of the bestiary book if you want to make sense of them.

FWIW, both herolab and d20pro are great products that will assist you immensely in running games, either online or face-to-face, just don't expect them to work for a pathfinder game right out of the box. There is a setup and learning curve for both.

Robyn Nixon
 
Ok, I downloaded the demo version of HL. How come it does not stay installed? Everytime I have to use it I have to install it again.
 
CapeCodRPGER said:
Ok, I downloaded the demo version of HL. How come it does not stay installed? Everytime I have to use it I have to install it again.
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If your on Vista or Win 7 i'd run the Installation file as an Administrator not a normal user, maybe there's some quirk in the registry of your system thats not taking the install!
 
CapeCodRPGER said:
I'll try that, thanks. But I am the only person that uses this computer and always logged in as admin. Weird.
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Also did you force the install into the Program Files folder? Their was some stuff mentioned that if you do that it can cause issues with updates. So maybe in your case it is also causing this issue.
 
CapeCodRPGER said:
Ok, I downloaded the demo version of HL. How come it does not stay installed? Everytime I have to use it I have to install it again.
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Once the product is installed, you do NOT need to re-install it again, and it should not ask you to do so. I'm guessing that you downloaded the INSTALLATION program onto your desktop and every time you launch the product, you are actually double-clicking the INSTALLATION program again.

Once the product is installed, you should launch the product by going to the Windows Start menu, opening the list of program files, and then selecting Hero Lab there. The installation program can be deleted once the product is installed.

If you want to create a shortcut on your desktop, you can right-click on the desktop and select "New" then "Shortcut". Then you can click the "Browse" button, browse to where you installed Hero Lab (by default it's "c:\herolab"), and select the Hero Lab program. After that, you can use the shortcut on your desktop.

Hope this helps...
 
rob said:
Once the product is installed, you do NOT need to re-install it again, and it should not ask you to do so. I'm guessing that you downloaded the INSTALLATION program onto your desktop and every time you launch the product, you are actually double-clicking the INSTALLATION program again.

Once the product is installed, you should launch the product by going to the Windows Start menu, opening the list of program files, and then selecting Hero Lab there. The installation program can be deleted once the product is installed.

If you want to create a shortcut on your desktop, you can right-click on the desktop and select "New" then "Shortcut". Then you can click the "Browse" button, browse to where you installed Hero Lab (by default it's "c:\herolab"), and select the Hero Lab program. After that, you can use the shortcut on your desktop.

Hope this helps...
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I found it it was buried in the program folder. What was weird is that my computer did not tell me I had a new program installed after I installed the demo. Usally it does. I made a shortcut for it.
 
Bought full version yesterday. Love it but have a couple of questions.

1. What do the sheild symbols mean next to some kills?
2. Can you configure the print of the sheet so some weapons don't have the full combat stats to save space? A few characters have weapons in portable holes, ect.
 
1. Some skills have an armor check penalty

2. No. Unfortunately you can not reconfigure the printout. This would be a huge bonus if they ever did allow this.
 
One more question, any word on if Lone Wolf will add the page numbers to the spells on print outs? I think that would be very handy.
 
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