Bug Reports - Community Created 3.5 D&D data set

[alucardu]

I've added Spiritual Connection as a substitute class for my level 1 ranger. This should replace Wild Empathy with Spiritual Connection, but when I check the exported character PDF I see both Wild Empathy and Spiritual Connection within the Special Ability tab.

I'm trying to patch this by removing the cRgrWildE skill, but no luck so far.

 

[Sendric]

I've added Spiritual Connection as a substitute class for my level 1 ranger. This should replace Wild Empathy with Spiritual Connection, but when I check the exported character PDF I see both Wild Empathy and Spiritual Connection within the Special Ability tab.

I'm trying to patch this by removing the cRgrWildE skill, but no luck so far.

Thanks. I've fixed this issue for the next release. It's a bit complicated, but if you need a workaround for the meantime, try adding this script to the class variant:

Phase: Render

perform hero.child[xWildEmpat].delete[Helper.ShowSpec]

PS I also updated the spell-like abilities so that you can actually track their usage in the Spells tab.

 

[alucardu]

Thanks. I've fixed this issue for the next release. It's a bit complicated, but if you need a workaround for the meantime, try adding this script to the class variant:

Phase: Render

perform hero.child[xWildEmpat].delete[Helper.ShowSpec]

PS I also updated the spell-like abilities so that you can actually track their usage in the Spells tab.

Okay I figured out I have to add the code to the Eval Rules scripts, but when I use it in hero lab I get a error message "????" (it's from the script I just made). How can I figure out where the error is from?

 

[LoneWolf6155]

I don't know if this has already been brought up, but the shadowcaster mystery UNVEIL has a prerequisite error.

 

[Sendric]

Okay I figured out I have to add the code to the Eval Rules scripts, but when I use it in hero lab I get a error message "????" (it's from the script I just made). How can I figure out where the error is from?

The code I gave you is an eval script not an evil rule.

 

[Sendric]

I don't know if this has already been brought up, but the shadowcaster mystery UNVEIL has a prerequisite error.

Thanks. I'll look into it.

 

[spyker_katarn]

I'm not sure if this is a bug in the Community Set or in Hero Lab proper, but feats in the latest update don't seem to recognize when Smite is available for the purposes of prerequisites (e.g. Paladin class):

https://gyazo.com/3e7d1c1d7c778680865322cfa14bd781
https://gyazo.com/b6ee4443bebc0991701eaee827d0b1ca

The only smite feat that does recognize it is Smite Fiery Foe in the Frostburn splat, but I don't know if that's a bug either.

Note: I found this while theorycrafting a Human Paladin 6. I can provide files if needed.

 

[Sendric]

I'm not sure if this is a bug in the Community Set or in Hero Lab proper, but feats in the latest update don't seem to recognize when Smite is available for the purposes of prerequisites (e.g. Paladin class):

https://gyazo.com/3e7d1c1d7c778680865322cfa14bd781
https://gyazo.com/b6ee4443bebc0991701eaee827d0b1ca

The only smite feat that does recognize it is Smite Fiery Foe in the Frostburn splat, but I don't know if that's a bug either.

Note: I found this while theorycrafting a Human Paladin 6. I can provide files if needed.

Sorry about that! Got it fixed.

 

[spyker_katarn]

Sorry about that! Got it fixed.

Awesome, thanks!

 

[spyker_katarn]

Back with another report of what seems to be a bug in item interaction: Bracers of Armor only seem to work if their bonus is greater than what the worn armor is.

Example:
If I am wearing Hide Armor (+3), only a Bracers of Armor +4 or higher seems to apply its bonus, and even then it's only +1 above my existing AC. Bracers +5 only adds 2, +6 adds 3, etc. This is reproducible on multiple characters.

 

[Tarmor]

Back with another report of what seems to be a bug in item interaction: Bracers of Armor only seem to work if their bonus is greater than what the worn armor is.

Example:
If I am wearing Hide Armor (+3), only a Bracers of Armor +4 or higher seems to apply its bonus, and even then it's only +1 above my existing AC. Bracers +5 only adds 2, +6 adds 3, etc. This is reproducible on multiple characters.

That's not a bug. The Bracers give an 'armor' bonus which of course does not stack with the armor bonus from actual armor - so only the item with the highest bonus will count.

 

[spyker_katarn]

That's not a bug. The Bracers give an 'armor' bonus which of course does not stack with the armor bonus from actual armor - so only the item with the highest bonus will count.

Ah, I see. It's not super clear from the description, but that makes sense. Thanks!

 

[ShadowChemosh]

Ah, I see. It's not super clear from the description, but that makes sense. Thanks!

Check out the global "Stacking bonuses" section of the rules.

In most cases, modifiers to a given check or roll stack (combine for a cumulative effect) if they come from different sources and have different types (or no type at all), but do not stack if they have the same type or come from the same source (such as the same spell cast twice in succession). If the modifiers to a particular roll do not stack, only the best bonus and worst penalty applies. Dodge bonuses and circumstance bonuses however, do stack with one another unless otherwise specified.

 

[spyker_katarn]

Check out the global "Stacking bonuses" section of the rules.

I think my confusion stemmed from this part of the description of the item:

They surround the wearer with an invisible but intangible field of force, granting him an armor bonus of +1 to +8, just as though he were wearing armor.

The description makes it seem as though it is +AC (force) instead of +AC (untyped). Again, I get the difference now that I've been provided with some information. I'm still navigating the intricacies of 3.5e; my games previously were 4e and 5e, but my current GM is a "3.5e is the only edition worth playing" type of GM. Thanks again for all the help (and I'm looking forward to the upcoming TOB and Dungeonscape updates to the community set, since those will only help!).

 

[ShadowChemosh]

The description makes it seem as though it is +AC (force) instead of +AC (untyped). Again, I get the difference now that I've been provided with some information. I'm still navigating the intricacies of 3.5e; my games previously were 4e and 5e, but my current GM is a "3.5e is the only edition worth playing" type of GM. Thanks again for all the help (and I'm looking forward to the upcoming TOB and Dungeonscape updates to the community set, since those will only help!).

Ahhh I see. Wasn't trying to be mean just mentioning the section on bonuses. I assumed you where totally new to D&D games. Sorry!

3.5 has allot more "gotcha" and corner cases than 4e/5e will have.

So I guess adding that the "effect" for Bracers of Armor is a 'Force' effect so its useful vs incorporeal touch attacks would just add more fun! Especially as your "normal" armor bonus would not be included on your touch attack but your bracers of armor bonus "would" get included vs incorporeal touch attacks.

Just an FYI it can be useful to wear Bracers of Armor if you plan to fight some undead.

 

[Monteparnas]

Just to know, it isn't neither +AC (Force), nor +AC (untyped). It is +AC (Armor), that is itself one of the most confusing bonus types on 3rd edition. As a rule of thumb, HL is working fine, but it is worth to remember that incorporeal Touch Attacks meant to not be Touch if they were not Incorporeal will behave weirdly (because they can't actually ignore the Bracers, as said above).

I have a little issue to add here. The Collision enchantment that adds +5 directly to final damage should be added in the sheet, but it isn't. It is working only in description, like the more circumstantial or dice-based enchantments. By the rules it should be added and affected as other direct bonuses, like Weapon Specialization, since it can be doubled by Critical and similar effects, as it isn't a dice-based bonus to damage.

 

[LoneWolf6155]

Just found a few problems. After theurgeing with a warlock and going into hellfire warlock, invocations disappear from the warlock tab. Sublime Chord's spells per day is messed up. That's all I can think of for now.

 

[Sendric]

Just found a few problems. After theurgeing with a warlock and going into hellfire warlock, invocations disappear from the warlock tab. Sublime Chord's spells per day is messed up. That's all I can think of for now.

Thanks. The Sublime Chord has already been fixed for the next release.

As for the warlock, I'll need more information. I'm not sure what you mean. Can you provide the portfolio or provide instructions to reproduce this issue?

 

[LoneWolf6155]

Thanks. The Sublime Chord has already been fixed for the next release.

As for the warlock, I'll need more information. I'm not sure what you mean. Can you provide the portfolio or provide instructions to reproduce this issue?

While I was experimenting making an Eldritch Disciple, I added hellfire warlock after I completed Eldritch Disciple. Immediately the tab for adding invocations disappeared. I could bring the tab back when I deleted Hellfire Warlock. Problem is I have no idea on how exactly to reproduce this error. I have encountered the problem before and sometimes it resolves itself when I reload Hero Lab and other times it doesn't. Other times it never happens. I have no idea what is causing the problem. You might want to check out how Hellfire Warlock interacts with builds that are not Warlock with Binder dips. I am starting the think the prestige class has a bug or two under the hood. One last thing, I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but Paragnostic Apostle has a prereq bug related to Knowledge: Other.

 

[Sendric]

While I was experimenting making an Eldritch Disciple, I added hellfire warlock after I completed Eldritch Disciple. Immediately the tab for adding invocations disappeared. I could bring the tab back when I deleted Hellfire Warlock. Problem is I have no idea on how exactly to reproduce this error. I have encountered the problem before and sometimes it resolves itself when I reload Hero Lab and other times it doesn't. Other times it never happens. I have no idea what is causing the problem. You might want to check out how Hellfire Warlock interacts with builds that are not Warlock with Binder dips. I am starting the think the prestige class has a bug or two under the hood.

Ok, I don't know if I fixed it, but I did find some suspicious code which I have removed. In its place, I gave the Hellfire Warlock the ability to improve one class's spellcasting ability since that works for Warlocks now.

One last thing, I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but Paragnostic Apostle has a prereq bug related to Knowledge: Other.

That's correct. It's Knowledge (any other) as in any other knowledge besides Religion or Arcana.