Anyone able to update lotr system

[Winkmog]

The following differences i have found from the GW website:

Aragorn , Isildur's Heir Can be found here https://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m220535a_The_Council_of_Elrond
Defence is 5 not 4
Elven Cloak = 10 points is missing

Legolas Can be found here https://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m220535a_The_Council_of_Elrond
Armour = 5 points is missing

Rumil, Warden of Caras Galadhon Can be found here http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1120318a_The_Galadhrim_Host
Defence is 6 not 5/6

Shieldbearer Can be found here https://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m220078a_Reinforcements
Defence is 8 not 7/8

Son of Eorl Can be found here https://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m220078a_Reinforcements
Defence is 6 not 5/6

Captain of the Black Guard Can be found here http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1120320a_In_Sauron's_Sinister_Service
Defence is 7 not 6/7

Black Guard of Barad-Dur Can be found here http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1120320a_In_Sauron's_Sinister_Service
Defence is 6 not 5/6

The Betrayer Can be found here http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1120320a_In_Sauron's_Sinister_Service
Special rule Bane of Kings description should say When the Betrayer strikes a model in close combat. Not strikes a model with shooting or close combat.

Eomer, Knight of the Pelennor Can be found here http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1520307a_RohanReinforcements.pdf
Defence is 7 not 6/7

Cheers
Winkmog

 

[Winkmog]

The following differences i have found from the White Dwarf issue 366 (UK copy) US copy is Issue 365 or 367 can't remember which.

Mauhur
Special rule Mauhur Maurauders most of the description is missing

Farimir, Captain of Ithilien
Defence is 7 not 6/7

 

[jlong05]

Sorry for the delays on these updates. I have been slammed with work and RL issues. I hope to get an opportunity to get these updates done in the next couple weeks and then get a release file out.

 

[Winkmog]

The following differences i have found in the ORB:

Gandalf the grey page 79
Strength is 4 not 5. The reason for this is he can choose to fight with Glamdring(which increases his strength to 5) or his staff as he carries both weapons. So maybe it should be 4/5?Equipment = horse 10 points missing , Shadowfax = 15 points missing and Shadowfax special rule missing

Gandalf the White page 128
Same problem as above with the strength Glamdring choice.Strengthen Will is 3+ not 4+

Bilbo Baggins page 79
Srength 3 not 2/3

Boromir of Gondor page 127
Defence 6 not 5/6

Elrond page 94
Fight Value 6/3 not 6/-

Arwen Evenstar page 94
Will is 3 not 4

Elven Captain page 96
Special Rule Woodland creature missing

Celeborn page 106
Fight Value 6/3 not 6/-

Captain of Rohan page 114
Option for Horse = 10 points is missing

Rider of Rohan page 115
Defence 5 not 4/5

Rohan Royal Guard page 115
Defence = 6 not 5/6
Should not have a Bow option
Option for horse = 6 points missing

Eowyn page 113
Throwing Weapons should be 5 points not 0 points
Should not have a bow option

Knight of dol Amroth page 131
Defence 6 not 5/6

Gollum page 144
Special rule missing Should say refer to page 144 of the orb

Sharkey & Worm page 85
Worm courage is 2 not 3

Grima Wormtongue page 119
Courage is 2 not 3
Special Rule: Worm should say refer to page 119 not page 100

Uruk Hai Captain page 120
Option Heavy Armour = 5 points missing
Option Two Handed Weapon = 5 missing
Option Orc bow = 5 missing
Option Crossbow = 5 missing

Uruk Hai Demolition Team page 122
Uruk Hai Beserker courage 8 not 7
Uruk Hai Engineer Fight Value is 4/4 not 4/-

Uruk Hai Siege Assualt Ballista page 123
Flaming Ammunition is 10 points not 15
Uruk Hai Engineer Captain description missing should say see page 68 of orb

Cheers Winkmog

 

[Winkmog]

The following differences i have found in the Two Towers Scourcebook & Return of The King Scourcebook:

Two Towers:

Isenguard Troll page 94
defence 8 not 7/8

Return of the King:

Rohan Outrider page 88
Option Horse = 5 points missing

Erkenbrand page 86
Defence is 7 not 6/7

Other Profiles that are missing from various books but not tournament figures:

Tom Bombadil page 47 The Scouring of the shire

Goldberry page 47 The Scouring of the shire

Watcher in the water page 59 The fellowship of the ring scourcebook

The following scourcebooks were used to find all the differences:
Harad
Khazad-Dum
Gondor in Flames
Fall of the Necromancer
Mordor
A shadow in the east
The ruin of Arnour
Siege of Gondor (Checked but nothing found as proceeded by Gondor in Flames)
The battle of Plennor fields (Checked but nothing found as proceeded by Gondor in Flames, Harad and Shadow of the East)
Shadow & Flame (Checked but nothing found as proceeded by Khazad-Dum)
Scouring of the Shire (Checked but found only 2 profiles missing)
The fellowship of the ring scourcebook
The Two Towers scourcebook
The Return of the King scourcebook
The ORB

Hope this helped and if i have missed any please be gentle with me

 

[Nocture]

Wrong Stats

The following differences have been found:

Fall of the Necromancer

The Necromancer
defence 8 not 9. I think that it must have to do something with the armor and adds +1 to his defence.

Mordor

The Dark Marshal
Fighting Value is 6 not 5 (the only Nazgul with 6 is the dark marshal).

Kind Regards.

 

[jlong05]

The following differences i have found in The Khazud-Dum sourcebook:

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All completed

 

[jlong05]

The following differences i have found in The Shadow In The East sourcebook:

Easterling Kataphrakt page 11
Fight Value 3/4 not 3
Defence 6 not 5
Shield option should be non optional. Comes as standard.

In a future update I will look at a better way of doing this, but the current file design is so that the banner can be taken. If a banner is taken a shield cannot, and it was a core design method originally used. I cannot easily change this right yet.

Khandish King page 18
Missing description for chariot

Khandish Chieften page 19
Missing description for chariot

Khandish Charioteer page 20
Missing description for chariot

Eorl the Young page 34
Defence 6 not 5/6
Special Rule Felarof missing description

Rest is done

 

[jlong05]

I prefer your idea to follow the statline from the rulebook.
As sometimes when im creating an army i like to click on the strength,defence,attacks heading to list the values from highest to lowest. And always found it strange that after i dragged the figure into my list the value would change.

Further thought on this and soem digging in teh files has shown me that that due to the current base design, this change will be a very LONG process. I am still interested in this direction, but plan to table it until the other stat and rules fixes are resolved first.

 

[Winkmog]

The following differences have been found:

Fall of the Necromancer

The Necromancer
defence 8 not 9. I think that it must have to do something with the armor and adds +1 to his defence.

Mordor

The Dark Marshal
Fighting Value is 6 not 5 (the only Nazgul with 6 is the dark marshal).

Kind Regards.

Hi' Nocture
Well spotted on the Dark Marshall i must have missed that one. One of many know doubt.
If you find anymore please post them. As another pair of eyes always helps.
Many thanks
Winkmog

 

[Nocture]

The following differences have been found:

Fall of the Necromancer

The Necromancer
defence 8 not 9. I think that it must have to do something with the armor and adds +1 to his defence.

Hi, did you fix that also? When I see something I shall report it.

 

[Nocture]

Fall of the Necromancer

Giant Spiders

There is an error with Venom Description (Giant Spiders)

Venom: This spider's sting and fangs are heavy with deadly and incapacitating venom. If she fails to wound an enemy model, she must re-roll the dice

The correct context (and rule) would be:

Venom (Giant Spiders).. The fangs of the Giant Spiders are highly venomous. They must re-roll each score of ‘1’ when rolling to wound.

I understand again why there is such an error. Venom is used differently by spider queen but with the same name:

"Venom (Spider Queen). The Spider Queen’s sting and fangs are heavy with poison. If she fails to wound an enemy model, she must re-roll the dice."

 

[Winkmog]

Hi, did you fix that also? When I see something I shall report it.

Fall of the Necromancer

Giant Spiders

There is an error with Venom Description (Giant Spiders)


The correct context (and rule) would be:

Venom (Giant Spiders).. The fangs of the Giant Spiders are highly venomous. They must re-roll each score of ‘1’ when rolling to wound.

I understand again why there is such an error. Venom is used differently by spider queen but with the same name:

"Venom (Spider Queen). The Spider Queen’s sting and fangs are heavy with poison. If she fails to wound an enemy model, she must re-roll the dice."

Both of these errors were mentioned on the first page of this post. Double check the earlier pages before posting any errors as they might have been already dealt with. Jlong is currently updating the data file and it would be a little confusing and time wasting if he has to cross reference errors.
There's bound to be some more mistakes i missed so keep checking.
Cheers!

 

[jlong05]

The following differences i have found in the Harad sourcebook:
Very sorry if this one is confusing!!!

War Mumak of Harad page 13
Special rule Awesome Presence, Fearless!, The Crew are missing.
Done


Mumak 5 special rules and descriptions are missing for the move phase
Mumak 2 special rules and descriptions are missing for the shooting phase
Mumak 5 special rules and descriptions are missing for the combat phase
Not implementing this. Remember that the datafiles are a tool to help build yoru army, not a replacement for the Harad and/or ORB. Not to mention the sheer volume of information won't fit.

Equipment: Mahud should say Mahud Beastmaster Chieften. Special Rule and profile stats are missing for this character.
Done, also this worked correctly just was mislabeled as it updates the profile and stats of the Harad Cheiftain

Dalamyr, Fleetmaster of Umbar page 15
Smoke Bombs description currently says If he wins a combat he will strike. Should say if he wins a combat he will not strike.
Done

Watcher of Karna page 17
Special rule Steely Nerve missing and description.
Done

Mahud Warrior page 19
Defence is 5 not 4/5
Ignored since this is a gear issue due to shields

Mahud Raider page 19
Defence 5 not 4/5 also
Camel is missing and description
Special Rule Impaler missing and description.
Done

Thanks for the help on finding these issues.

 

[jlong05]

The following differences i have found in the Mordor sourcebook:

Sauron page 8
Sap Will is 3+ not 2+
Done

Witch King of Angmar page 9
Fellbeast/Armoured Fellbeast/Horned Fellbeast Special rule Feral is missing
Done

Warg Rider page 22
Special Rule Crude Throwing Spears is missing
Done

Black Numenorean Warrior page 24
Defence is 6 not 5/6
Shields

Morgul Knight page 25
Defence is 6 not 5/6
Shields

Mordor Siege Bow page 25
Orc Engineer Captain description is missing (see page 68 of orb)Don't understand what description is needed. This is more a replacement of the rulebook and not needed for game play.
Done

Mordor War Catapult page 26
Special Rule Indirect fire is missing & description
Done

Black Numenorean Catapult page 27
Black Numenorean Engineer Captain description is missing (see page 68 of orb) Don't understand what description is needed. This is more a replacement of the rulebook and not needed for game play.
Special Rule Indirect fire is missing & description
Special Rule Cursed Ammunition is missing & description
Done

Thanks again for the help.

 

[jlong05]

I missed a couple :

Gondor in Flames

Battlecry Trebuchet page 18
Equipment Better construction change to superior construction (not a major deal) also the description for this is missing (description is found on page 68 of the orb)
Done

Also Minas Tirith Engineer Description is missing
Dont understand need

Avenger Bolt Thrower page 19

Gondor Engineer Captain description is missing (see page 68 of orb)
Dont understand need

Equipment Better construction change to superior construction (not a major deal) also the description for this is missing (description is found on page 68 of the orb)
Not a valid option for the Avenger.

But the above other stuff is completed.

 

[jlong05]

The following differences i have found from the GW website:

Aragorn , Isildur's Heir Can be found here https://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m220535a_The_Council_of_Elrond
Defence is 5 not 4
Elven Cloak = 10 points is missing

Legolas Can be found here https://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m220535a_The_Council_of_Elrond
Armour = 5 points is missing

Rumil, Warden of Caras Galadhon Can be found here http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1120318a_The_Galadhrim_Host
Defence is 6 not 5/6

Shieldbearer Can be found here https://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m220078a_Reinforcements
Defence is 8 not 7/8

Son of Eorl Can be found here https://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m220078a_Reinforcements
Defence is 6 not 5/6

Captain of the Black Guard Can be found here http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1120320a_In_Sauron's_Sinister_Service
Defence is 7 not 6/7

Black Guard of Barad-Dur Can be found here http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1120320a_In_Sauron's_Sinister_Service
Defence is 6 not 5/6

The Betrayer Can be found here http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1120320a_In_Sauron's_Sinister_Service
Special rule Bane of Kings description should say When the Betrayer strikes a model in close combat. Not strikes a model with shooting or close combat.

Eomer, Knight of the Pelennor Can be found here http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1520307a_RohanReinforcements.pdf
Defence is 7 not 6/7

Cheers
Winkmog

All done except the 'shields' issue.

 

[jlong05]

The following differences i have found from the White Dwarf issue 366 (UK copy) US copy is Issue 365 or 367 can't remember which.

Mauhur
Special rule Mauhur Maurauders most of the description is missing
If you are referring to the movement bonus information, that is included on theUruk Scounts when upgraded appropriatly.

Farimir, Captain of Ithilien
Defence is 7 not 6/7

Shield related issue - ignored for now

If there is something else you meant here, please let me know.

 

[Winkmog]

Shield related issue - ignored for now

If there is something else you meant here, please let me know.

Hi Jlong
Everything is fine, i think i was just a bit tired when writing some of the stats out.


Many thanks for the updating so far
cheers
Winkmog

 

[Winkmog]

Hi would it be possible to add the profiles for the different species of Ent found in The best of White Dwarf Two Towers (page 73) and Best of White Dwarf Return of The King (page 3)

Birch
Hawthorn
Fir
Willow
Beech
Oak
Ash

I know they are not official by GW for tournaments but for non tournament players they are a great alternative.
Hope these can be added!

Also i found another error while playing a game at the weekend.
Arwen Evenstar page 94 Orb
Asfaloth has 2 wounds it should be only 1

Cheers
Winkmog