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Warning D&D 5e not usable for gaming.

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I didn't research properly. This release is not usable in gaming due to the massive amount of material not in the Srd. I got excited when I saw the d@d 5th email and sprung the money to upgrade my pathfinder hero lab for iPad (which is fantastic). But I feel a bit ripped off to be honest as I can't see the point in this product. Certainly not $20 of point. It's useless.
So if you are reading this before you buy, do your research properly, know what you are getting and know that you can't use this for gaming. I'm not really sure what it's for.
Not pleased.
 
Don't forget that Lone Wolf will refund the $20 if you aren't happy with the purchase (within 30? days of purchase).

(Having said that, I do agree that the D&D 5th edition SRD is playing lip-service to the concept of "open gaming license" with the amount of material they've provided.)
 
Jeff M, no offense but you are wildly incorrect with minimal work witht the editor i was able to ble to add the spells that were missing in the editor te same can be done with races, subraces, subclasses and feats.
 
Farling said:
Don't forget that Lone Wolf will refund the $20 if you aren't happy with the purchase (within 30? days of purchase).

(Having said that, I do agree that the D&D 5th edition SRD is playing lip-service to the concept of "open gaming license" with the amount of material they've provided.)
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We did what we could given the limits imposed, and provided a good foundation for expansion in the hopes that the fan community will add their own stuff. We don't want anyone to feel cheated. If you're not comfortable adding your own content or taking advantage of the efforts of fellow fans, please do contact us for a refund. The same link in the stickied thread above for reporting bugs can be used for this purpose. One warning, we usually try and take care of submissions of bugs/refund requests/etc within 3 business days, but given the rush recently, we may be running a bit behind. Don't worry though, we'll take care of you.
 
I figure people will swap around the necessary data files to fill it out player to player.

Remember that we cna release Forgotten Realms stuff through the DMGuild.
 
Has anyone seriously considered releasing these through dmsguild? Can it be done? Through there you are allowed use of all released material...

I've seen app addons released via drivethrurpg.
 
I knew exactly what I was getting into. I paid my $20 to add 5e. I was expecting it to be bare bones, and bare bones is exactly what I got. I view it as a framework to add the rest of the stuff in myself. Lone Wolf has been very transparent about this right from day one.

That said, the OP's point is very well made. For those who are perhaps inclined to gloss over the details, you should know what you're getting yourself into. If you're not a DIY type who is willing to put in some tedious work, your $20 is *NOT* buying you a working copy of the 5th edition rules.

Bottom line: until such time as Lone Wolf secures a full, proper 5e license (and it's my understanding they have been working toward that for some time), non-DIY types should probably hold on to their money.
 
CNYGamer said:
Bottom line: until such time as Lone Wolf secures a full, proper 5e license (and it's my understanding they have been working toward that for some time), non-DIY types should probably hold on to their money.
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Or cheer on those here who do know how to code and then pull down their files to add what we want for our game. :D
 
dafrca said:
Or cheer on those here who do know how to code and then pull down their files to add what we want for our game. :D
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This. I knew the SRD wasn't complete when they released it. It makes sense, considering they probably don't want another incident like with the Mongoose Pocket Player's Handbook. I'd like to use it with Fantasy Grounds, so when the option to import is available (as it is with 3.5e and Savage Worlds) then I'll probably buy it and hopefully be smart enough to find the files to fill in the gaps.
 
I don't have knowledge or time to fiddle with this. I bought it for convenience not the opposite.
I just wanted to play my cleric from it -but he's war domain so I can't.
 
Dervish said:
Jeff M, no offense but you are wildly incorrect with minimal work witht the editor i was able to ble to add the spells that were missing in the editor te same can be done with races, subraces, subclasses and feats.
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That may be true, but, and I understand that Lone Wolf has to work with what they are allowed to work with, why would I pay money to have to enter all the data that's missing?
 
MrEdaniels said:
That may be true, but, and I understand that Lone Wolf has to work with what they are allowed to work with, why would I pay money to have to enter all the data that's missing?
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I think, with some patience, you may not have to do it yourself. There are already efforts to organize a set of fan made files, so you might want to keep an eye on that.
 
@mredaniels Why would i not spend 20 bucks to get content that allows me to customize gamer and improve my prep time experience. So what i have to do some data entry.... once the data is entered i never have to enter it again which will cut my encounter and NPC creation time down giving me more time to work on maps and campaign specific content
 
I was more interested in the tactical console and having all my players' stats at my fingertips - and the product I paid for does that. As far as the missing data: I added what I could without breaking anything, and what's still missing can wait until the community files are completed.
 
I am sorry to see so many folks didn't understand how limited the SRD would be.

I paid for my copy and I knew it would not contain 99% of what I wanted. So why did I buy it. I will share with you. I bought it for two reasons.

1) It gives me the core frame ready so that when fan made files are offered I will be able to do what I want

2) Because if Lone Wolf can show WotC how many copies they have sold, WotC can see the real potential value and maybe be more open to selling Lone Wolf the licenses for additional content. In other words it gives Lone Wolf leverage through proof of a ready to buy fan base.

So in my opinion, my $20 was well worth it. :-)
 
dafrca said:
I am sorry to see so many folks didn't understand how limited the SRD would be.

I paid for my copy and I knew it would not contain 99% of what I wanted. So why did I buy it. I will share with you. I bought it for two reasons.

1) It gives me the core frame ready so that when fan made files are offered I will be able to do what I want

2) Because if Lone Wolf can show WotC how many copies they have sold, WotC can see the real potential value and maybe be more open to selling Lone Wolf the licenses for additional content. In other words it gives Lone Wolf leverage through proof of a ready to buy fan base.

So in my opinion, my $20 was well worth it. :-)
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I totally agreed with this.
And i was so lucky that my character is a Human Fighter thats going for Champion at level 3.
I only needed to add Soldier as a background.
 
Grimmric said:
I totally agreed with this.
And i was so lucky that my character is a Human Fighter thats going for Champion at level 3.
I only needed to add Soldier as a background.
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And as that can be done as a custom background in the character creator, I'd say you're set!

Only half way through implementing a Bladesinger...
 
I love HL to bits, and use it when I can.
I'm chuffed that there's a 5e option now, but I know how limited this is at this time.
To that end, I'm happy with waiting another month or two (three at the outside) to see if a license agreement has been made before LW can take my money. I'm not in a hurry, as I'm not playing a 5e campaign at the moment, and if/when I do, I have another resource I can use for character management right now.
But, once HL has the license, I'll be whipping out the card faster than you can say Eric Robinson.
 
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