Races and racial abilities in a configurable

[frumple]

I have a template that allows a creature to absorb another creature's abilities.

I want to implement this in a configurable as follows

Primary : list of all base races
Secondary: abilities of races selected in Primary
Tertiary: custom abilities for things that do not fall in the above (user text box)


Is there a tag expression I can use in crfAllow1 that will build the list of all races? (setting field[cfgAllow1].text = "component.BaseRaces" doe snot work. I am guessing because I need to apply it to all things.

Another idea I has is have a single Racial Cust Special with a dropdown that selects from All Things and filters on component.BaseRace

This does work (so far), but I wanted to know if there was a way to just have a list of races in the configurable?

[Aaron]

Only picks with the component.Ability component tag can be added to table 1-7 of a configurable, so no races, sorry. Try the Racial Cust Special workaround and tell me how it goes.

[frumple]

The Racial Cust Special works in selecting the race. Now my challenge is populating the Secondary with all the abilities from that race.

[Aaron]

Is this perchance a new crack at doing wild shape forms? Because I have considered doing something similar to what you are attempting for those.

[ShadowChemosh]

Originally Posted by Aaron

Is this perchance a new crack at doing wild shape forms? Because I have considered doing something similar to what you are attempting for those.

I have an approach for a Beast Shape adjustment that I have about 80% done. But it goes a slightly different way as pulling the information from a race was not working out well. So I made a new Editor Tab that allows a very quick easy setup for a Beast Shape creature. Besides after awhile you learn that basically from the point of view of "Beast Shape" that a tiger, lion, cheetah are all the same thing. You don't need "every" bear or cat just a basic one will do saying your a black bear vs brown bear is mechanically the same thing.

I had assumed that Polymorph stuff was still a long while off so making something that worked 98% of the time would be a good thing. If your "soon" to have a mechanic built for Polymorph than I should stop my work. If its still a half-year or more away then I will continue.

[frumple]

Not quite, is for one of the new templates in the upcoming updated Advanced Bestiary (I am doing the HL conversion for Green Ronin as paid work. I cannot get more specific about the templates in public due to NDAs.). There are a few in the book that take abilities from other races, but this one seemed the easiest to start with.

In any case I have gotten it so the user can select directly bootstrapped abilities, but I cannot get it to list spell-like abilities, or abilities granted by type or subtypes. I think the issue is that I cannot change context with a string expression. What I woudn't give for a childstr[string] or thingstr[string] statement. :/

Additionally I want to tag each of the secondary abilities with a SpecSource tag of which race it came from. That way I can easily pull tags and copy field values.

In any case this is what I have so far.

~ set secondary abilities in configurable

doneif (field[usrChosen1].ischosen = 0)

var secThing as string
var subThing as string

~ go through bootstraps of chosen race
foreach bootstrap in field[usrChosen1].chosen where "!(HasFeat.? | ArmAbilTyp.?)"
  secThing = splice(secThing,eachthing.tagids[thingid.?]," | ")
  
~ now go through things that were bootstrapped by any bootstraps
  foreach bootstrap in eachthing where "!(HasFeat.? | ArmAbilTyp.?)"
    subThing = splice(subThing,eachthing.tagids[thingid.?]," | ")
  nexteach
  secThing = splice(secThing,subThing," | ")
nexteach

~ assign list
hero.child[cfgGRConsu].field[cfgAllow2].text = secThing

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by ShadowChemosh

I have an approach for a Beast Shape adjustment that I have about 80% done. But it goes a slightly different way as pulling the information from a race was not working out well. So I made a new Editor Tab that allows a very quick easy setup for a Beast Shape creature. Besides after awhile you learn that basically from the point of view of "Beast Shape" that a tiger, lion, cheetah are all the same thing. You don't need "every" bear or cat just a basic one will do saying your a black bear vs brown bear is mechanically the same thing.

I had assumed that Polymorph stuff was still a long while off so making something that worked 98% of the time would be a good thing. If your "soon" to have a mechanic built for Polymorph than I should stop my work. If its still a half-year or more away then I will continue.

Nah, please continue. The idea hasn't gone beyond "Idle Speculation" stage in any case. And I am sure other folks like Mathias have their own idea. We aren't close to releaseing our own thing.

[ShadowChemosh]

Originally Posted by Aaron

Nah, please continue. The idea hasn't gone beyond "Idle Speculation" stage in any case. And I am sure other folks like Mathias have their own idea. We aren't close to releaseing our own thing.

Cool thanks for the info.