Bug, I think Armor Check Penalty and Dex bonus and Armor issue

Rimfaxe · July 28th, 2014, 10:23 PM

Hi all
Skill in Balance at 2. I am a rogue, Dex at 17 (+3) i don the Studded Leather Armor (-1 to Armor Check Penalty) and would expect my skill now in Balance to be (2+3-1) = +4, but it is still only +2.

The same for all other Dex based skills... I've looked through the forum and can's seem to find an answer... Am i calculating this wrong or is there some other thing I'm overlooking?

When I untick the armor, the skills do not change either.. only when I delete the armor does the +3 Dex bonus kick in.

I tried in the Pathfinder system and it seems to calculate properly... is there a d20 system rule I'm overlooking?

Cheers
Rimfaxe

mirtos · July 29th, 2014, 03:31 AM

Works fine for me. I created a rogue with exactly those things. you must have some other stuff affecting.

Im thinking, you have an encumbrance of medium. Because when i made my encumbrance medium, i got the same as you.

Sendric · July 29th, 2014, 05:27 AM

Encumbrance makes sense here, especially where you stated the changes didn't occur until you deleted the armor from the character. One thing that gets often over-looked for encumbrance purposes is money. Those coins get heavy pretty fast.

Rimfaxe · July 29th, 2014, 07:44 AM

ha ha, indeed... it was the encumbrance... thank you for pointing me in the right direction. I feel like a goose.

mirtos · July 29th, 2014, 10:05 AM

lol.

ive been playing D&D for over 30 years, D20, for over 13 and HeroLab still reminds me things...

Aaron · July 29th, 2014, 09:13 PM

Yeah, we routinely still get someone reporting max dex issues that turn out to be encumberance.

mirtos · July 30th, 2014, 02:41 AM

One of the things I love about the pathfinder program that I wish the D20 one does is the ability to click on a skill and it shows all the calculations. With d20 i still findmyself wondering "wait... why is this that?" And sometimes, its easy to figure out (like this encumberance example) but other times not so much, so its hard to know if something is actually a bug, or something else.

ShadowChemosh · July 30th, 2014, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mirtos

One of the things I love about the pathfinder program that I wish the D20 one does is the ability to click on a skill and it shows all the calculations. With d20 i still findmyself wondering "wait... why is this that?" And sometimes, its easy to figure out (like this encumberance example) but other times not so much, so its hard to know if something is actually a bug, or something else.

This is something I so want to add in actually. As it is very nice for gamers to see.

Dark Lord Galen · July 30th, 2014, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadowChemosh

This is something I so want to add in actually. As it is very nice for gamers to see.

to follow the RW template..
+1 to this lol...
Some calculations are very cryptic at times in the D20 setup.

mirtos · July 30th, 2014, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadowChemosh

This is something I so want to add in actually. As it is very nice for gamers to see.

Awesome. Its been something that is SEVERELY missed.

mirtos Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 865 July 29th, 2014, 03:31 AM	Works fine for me. I created a rogue with exactly those things. you must have some other stuff affecting. Im thinking, you have an encumbrance of medium. Because when i made my encumbrance medium, i got the same as you.
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Sendric Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,147 July 29th, 2014, 05:27 AM	Encumbrance makes sense here, especially where you stated the changes didn't occur until you deleted the armor from the character. One thing that gets often over-looked for encumbrance purposes is money. Those coins get heavy pretty fast.
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Rimfaxe Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 6 July 29th, 2014, 07:44 AM	ha ha, indeed... it was the encumbrance... thank you for pointing me in the right direction. I feel like a goose.
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Aaron Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,793 July 29th, 2014, 09:13 PM	Yeah, we routinely still get someone reporting max dex issues that turn out to be encumberance.
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