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Old January 15th, 2015, 04:03 PM
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Still looking forward to some news on this...
We don't have any more news on this, sorry. We'll give more information as soon as we have something worth announcing.
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Old January 16th, 2015, 06:21 AM
Since PFS OP now requires physical (read: print) character sheets, will this become a lower priority? Similarly, will the iPad app continue to receive support, or should we expect it to also be deprioritized?

It might behoove you to contact your people at Paizo to see if a compromise can be arranged, given the emphasis you've been putting on mobile development and the fact that it presently only works for the game system whose organized play just removed its major appeal. But YMMV.
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Old January 16th, 2015, 08:07 AM
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Since PFS OP now requires physical (read: print) character sheets, will this become a lower priority? Similarly, will the iPad app continue to receive support, or should we expect it to also be deprioritized?

It might behoove you to contact your people at Paizo to see if a compromise can be arranged, given the emphasis you've been putting on mobile development and the fact that it presently only works for the game system whose organized play just removed its major appeal. But YMMV.
I really doubt that 'ruling' is going to be enforced at many tables. I know plenty of GMs who prefer Hero Lab to paper sheets - because 'maths'...

That - and its only PFS - it's not like it's real role-playing anyway... ;-)
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Old January 16th, 2015, 11:32 AM
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Since PFS OP now requires physical (read: print) character sheets, will this become a lower priority? Similarly, will the iPad app continue to receive support, or should we expect it to also be deprioritized?

It might behoove you to contact your people at Paizo to see if a compromise can be arranged, given the emphasis you've been putting on mobile development and the fact that it presently only works for the game system whose organized play just removed its major appeal. But YMMV.
Just one more reason why not to join PFS.

Sorry anyone in the year 2014 telling me I need "paper" needs actual mental help. I have not done anything with "paper" in many many years. Even Audit reports for PWC (PricewaterhouseCoopers) does not need to be on paper. My department alone produces hundreds of audit required documents a day as I am under SOX (Sarbanes–Oxley Act) and PCI. None of them needs to be on paper.

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Old January 16th, 2015, 11:55 AM
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Since PFS OP now requires physical (read: print) character sheets, will this become a lower priority? Similarly, will the iPad app continue to receive support, or should we expect it to also be deprioritized?

It might behoove you to contact your people at Paizo to see if a compromise can be arranged, given the emphasis you've been putting on mobile development and the fact that it presently only works for the game system whose organized play just removed its major appeal. But YMMV.
I don't see the issue. I would print my sheet(s) out and if he asks for them you give them. There isn't anything preventing you from using HL at game play to lookup info, track #'s, etc. Same for PDF's.

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Old January 16th, 2015, 03:17 PM
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I don't see the issue. I would print my sheet(s) out and if he asks for them you give them. There isn't anything preventing you from using HL at game play to lookup info, track #'s, etc. Same for PDF's.
The frustrating thing, that was not brought up in the thread before they had a hissy fit and locked it down, is that the stated REASON you have to own the sources you use, is so you can provide those sources to the GM, which can be done on an electronic device, while at the same time, the REASON you have to have a paper copy of your character sheet is so you don't have to let the GM use your electronic device...
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Old January 17th, 2015, 01:29 PM
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The frustrating thing, that was not brought up in the thread before they had a hissy fit and locked it down, is that the stated REASON you have to own the sources you use, is so you can provide those sources to the GM, which can be done on an electronic device, while at the same time, the REASON you have to have a paper copy of your character sheet is so you don't have to let the GM use your electronic device...
Ya, that is some fuzzy logic. It sounded like someone pushed the issue to force a ruling and so they went that way. Most people say almost all of the GM's never ask for that sources or the characters most of the time anyway so I doubt it will be an issue most of the time unless you get a hard headed GM and which case, you'll probably have other issues. People could also refuse to cooperate to make a point as well and leave the table. If enough people stopped playing because of it, their voice will be heard.

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Old January 25th, 2015, 06:58 PM
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Since PFS OP now requires physical (read: print) character sheets, will this become a lower priority? Similarly, will the iPad app continue to receive support, or should we expect it to also be deprioritized?

It might behoove you to contact your people at Paizo to see if a compromise can be arranged, given the emphasis you've been putting on mobile development and the fact that it presently only works for the game system whose organized play just removed its major appeal. But YMMV.

Bad rulings like that are why I quit playing PFS.

The other is that they do not support their own SRD for PFS use... seriously wtf?

Paizo should have long ago moved everything Pathfinder and PFS to online fillable sheets specifically the stupid chronicles sheets. Those damn things should be filled out on the paizo web site at the end of the game by the DM which would assign the sheet to the players account. No risk of loss, modifying etc. anyone can check them at any time via any internet device.

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Old January 26th, 2015, 01:56 AM
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Bad rulings like that are why I quit playing PFS.

The other is that they do not support their own SRD for PFS use... seriously wtf?

Paizo should have long ago moved everything Pathfinder and PFS to online fillable sheets specifically the stupid chronicles sheets. Those damn things should be filled out on the paizo web site at the end of the game by the DM which would assign the sheet to the players account. No risk of loss, modifying etc. anyone can check them at any time via any internet device.
That, unfortunately, is something they actively fight, because, unlike most users of this forum, 'pen & paper' gamers as a community, are still against digital and online tools/forms. I think it stems mostly from the success of MMO's, and they feel that they took something from them, but I have heard over and over again about those who 'refuse to let anything digital at their table', the they are 'playing a pen and paper rpg', etc. It's a generational thing, and will go away, but I think Paizo felt they'd alienate the most fervent of their user base if they FORCED something to go online.
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Old January 31st, 2015, 06:14 AM
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That - and its only PFS - it's not like it's real role-playing anyway... ;-)
How is that at all relevant?

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The other is that they do not support their own SRD for PFS use... seriously wtf?
They don't make any money off the SRD. PFS is a marketing tool.

Whether or not you like that ruling is entirely up to you, I'm just answering your question.

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