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Im actually really quite upset about this policy
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To say I am gutted is an understatement - I am horrified and very very very cross. I almost feel betrayed as I have always supported Paizo by buying hardcopies of just about everything! I read the link that NeoEvaX posted in another discussion (http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2q00l?Di...cal-copy-owned), and understand all the arguments, but living in NZ, the shipping costs were prohibitive (i did once ask Paizo), so the subscription was just not viable. I can only hope that Paizo will rethink this policy as it makes buying anything in RW prohibitively expensive for me, and possibly others. Apologies for the rant but having looked forward to the Content Market for so long I am massively dissapointed that I seemingly will be unable to actually buy anything and support the great work that Lone Wolf (and Paizo) have done. |
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Well I'm a Paizo Subscriber for 4 years now for most of their lines I get the PDF's for most of the stuff "for free". So for "newer" stuff I'm not so much worried. However as I do not have the PDFs for the "older" stuff like CRB, APG and so on but I do have those as physical books I'm not amused about the fact that I would have to buy the PDF for those as well. I wonder if the Core Book Stuff will require the PDFs as well when it is already available only as a PRD. For Adventure Path or Modules or even the Campaign Setting and Player Companion line I can understand that but for the stuff where that content is available on their official site I'm a bit disappointed.
I think it will most likely some time in the foreseeable future where I've to decide if I really continue with my Paizo Subscriptions or if I would just purchase that with RW+PDF only, despite the fact that I really love to have the physical books. But at some point money is becoming an issue, beside space in the shelfs. |
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Really hoping that WoTC doesn't follow suit. Then again, looking at the pricing for 5e material on Fantasy Grounds, they charge the same as the books (maybe more, depending on discounts you can find for the books online), so it does seem the PF material will be less expensive, especially if you do not buy the books.
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Well, if in two years they have not been able to negotiate with wizards of the coast (not to say nothing has been done, but the results are not visible, yet) I would not hold my breath for official books in realm works in the next, how say two to three years...
Joke aside, I really want 5e support (and not just srd) as it is the only system I am actively dming these days. I wonder how hard it would be to convert official realm works official to another system (seeing as i have understood maybe incorrectly you could only import to a same rule systems realms). If I buy a pathfinder module for rw, how would I go to add only the scenario without rules elements into a 5e realms and fill the blank myself. |
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Merging adventure content should be relatively simple. You will have to put in new Hero Lab files, stats and look to change any DC checks but the story, people, places, etc. That doesn't need to change.
I am holding my breathe for a WOTC license. LW would be stupid to not go after it. I've wondered why we don't have one already with Hero Lab. Perhaps they are just waiting for the CM to launch so they can get a license that covers their entire product line? I've got my fingers and toes crossed and occasionally i go as low as to tweet the d&d developers begging... Realm Works - Community Links Realm Work and Hero Lab Videos Ream Works Facebook User Group CC3+ Facebook User Group D&D 5e Community Pack - Contributor General Hero Lab Support & Community Resources D&D 5e Community Pack - Install Instructions / D&D 5e Community Pack - Log Fault / D&D 5e Community Pack - Editor Knowledge Base Obsidian Obsidian TTRPG Tutorials |
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Thinking more about this policy I'm even more upset with Paizo. my Realm Works videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZU...4DwXXkvmBXQ9Yw |
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Given Paizo's brand image is 'we are not corporate pirates' it is rather surprising...
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I guess I will now need to do a review on the differences between Crimson Throne (old version) and the updated one, so that I can put it in manually. I just cant afford to buy 3 lots of data (well not after being made redundant!) |
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Plus they have recently unveiled a new digital division for wotc project. We don't really know what they'll do (games, virtual tabletops, etc) but it could be a software similar in intent from RW and so, supporting it would be against their own interest... Politcs, non disclosure and so on. You also have to account that, at the time of creation of the kickstarter, paizo and pathfinder was the leader of the industry (they might still be, in term of sales, I dunno, but I have seen from reports of roll20 and similar softwares that 5e has been number one since launch...) It's normal to have priority one when lighted on that perspective, but it might be a short sighted vision in the long term. We'll see how LW will negotiate that particular change in the table top rpgs landscape. |
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