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What Next?!?!

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For everyone....

We're currently mapping out the sequence in which new stuff will be developed for White Wolf's product line. What directions are you most interested in seeing us pursue next?

Would you rather we flesh out VtR more fully with all the material from the various covenants and bloodlines?

Would you rather we add new WoD settings like Mage, Changeling, Werewolf, and Promethean? If so, which ones are most important?

Or would you rather we focus on Exalted or Scion next?

Please chime in with your recommendations. Your feedback will be helpful in our discussions with White Wolf to best prioritize our development plans.

Thanks!!!!
 
1) Since it doesnt seem like the full authoring tool will be out anytime soon, id really like for the implementation of the 4 new skills in the Requiem for Rome book.
2) Mage Please!
3) Than Exalted
4) Than Werewolf
5) Than Scion
6) Others

Both personal preference but also with the popularity of those games in mind (Exalted and Mage get far more releases than werewolf, which indicates they sell better and have more players). Also those two games have a lot of resource management type stuff going on which would make this tool helpful.
 
I agree with the core rules first.

I'd say release them in order of publication: Werewolf, Mage, Promethean, Changeling.
 
I can see why it would be good to get the core rules done for each game before doing anything else but at the same time a complete tool is better than 4 incomplete tools.

I suppose the big question is time and money. If it takes you twice as long to add an new game compared to adding complete contents then I'd say finish one before you move on to the next. On the money front what's really important is are you more likely to sell more copies if you support more than one game at a basic level or if you cover the most popular game completly so it's a one stop shop for character creation. Almost certainly worth asking if White Wolf sell more vampire add ons on other game core books.
 
At 04:19 AM 12/20/2007, you wrote:
I can see why it would be good to get the core rules done for each game before doing anything else but at the same time a complete tool is better than 4 incomplete tools.

I suppose the big question is time and money. If it takes you twice as long to add an new game compared to adding complete contents then I'd say finish one before you move on to the next. On the money front what's really important is are you more likely to sell more copies if you support more than one game at a basic level or if you cover the most popular game completly so it's a one stop shop for character creation. Almost certainly worth asking if White Wolf sell more vampire add ons on other game core books.
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Those are exactly the issues we're discussing right now. Unfortunately, this is uncharted territory, so nobody has any concrete idea. There are valid arguments for both directions: new setting vs. supplements for VtR.

Nobody has any solid data we can reliably base decisions on, so we're going to be taking our best guess based on sketchy data. For example, how many VtR players use large portions of the *mechanics* from the supplement books? The VtR supplements are typically 75+% non-mechanics. If most gaming groups just cherry-pick a handful of mechanics they like, then it would be better to just let those groups easily add that handful via the Editor and encourage gaming groups to share their homemade data files with each other. On the flipside, if the bulk of the supplement *mechanics* are widely used, then a lack of that material will stunt the sales of the VtR core files (i.e. it's an incomplete tool).

White Wolf has sales data on the number of books sold, but they have no concrete data on how their players are using the contents of those books. And the anecdotal data they have is heavily skewed to a tiny subset of the overall VtR player base. So that data is of minimal value, at best.

One of the reasons behind my soliciting feedback directly from users is that you're going to provide us with better data than what we currently have to go on. The big unknown at this point is whether we'll be able to cull together statistically meaningful data from users in a relatively short time window. My fingers are crossed that we will.... :-)
 
Let's see, I'd rather you support the core WoD games first before anything else, including Exalted or Scion. It's easy to go into the editor to churn out a new bloodline or merit once the structure is in place, but new systems can't be defined by the user.

For my own purposes (based on my current game), I'd be interested in:
1) Mage
2) Second Sight characters
3) Werewolf
4) Changing Breeds/or some sort of facility to use the werewolf dataset to create customised were-critters.
 
I'd like other core rules supported soon too -- for me Mage is the one I'm really looking for. I'd also like Scion and Exalted sometime.
 
It seems that Mage would probably be the best to do first(I play mages quite alot), but I know other people enjoy creating Werewolves and other types. I think therefor that it would be best to get the other core rule books out first before adding to the basic set.
 
I would like to see the core book available before new books. We can always add an item from the other books of VtR manually without to much trouble.
 
When I heard that Hero Lab was going to support the WoD games, I expected the first dataset to include the core WoD (blue) book plus the core books for the Big Three supers (Vampire, Werewolf, Mage) including any errata. Only after that did I expect supplemental expansion.

My preference:

Release the remaining core books in the order they were released (first Werewolf then Mage, Promethean, and Changeling), then add some more supplements.
 
Changeling would probably sell the best after Vampire, just due to what I see people playing. Next would be Werewolf and then mage. (in Wod) Exalted would most likely sell the best overall after vampire.
as for finish vampire vs. release a new set? it's a coin toss
 
As an AB datafile maintainer (WH40k Eldar). I would like to see the editor and then core books. So if i wanted to, i could supplement the VtR files while waiting for the other core books. Also I would like to use my OOP stuff so would like to help work on making a fan file of OOP stuff.

Personally I'm more interested in Werewolf, then Vampire.
 
I see it as only logical to prioritize the core book of each wod system. Extra material is the least important part when it comes to run a game.

As a longtime storyteller I find Herolab a great tool, and would like to see the other races as fast as possible released.

Supplements can wait, but not the core versions. before Hero Lab covers every core system wod has to offer, I see it as incomplete for the moment.
 
I would like to see support for the main three systems before delving into the othe support material for VtR ...

My reasoning is simple - I would like to be able to use HeroLab for all of the characters and NPCs in my chronicle. I don't really use a lot of mechanics out of the supplemental books ... and neither do my players. I do however use Mage an awful lot, and my UK chronicle will be focussing on the Uratha and Changelings. I would get far more use out of data files for Mage and Werewolf than I would out of the VtR supplements.
 
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