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What I'd really like to see is an input field in the Manage Inventory
window that lets the user type in the name of the card and searches
for the card in real time. Magic Workstation and many encyclopedia
programs have a similar feature. For me, Card Vault is perfect in
every way, except it is too hard to find specific cards when dealing
with large lists (like the complete Magic card list), and Quick
Search almost always gives me the wrong result. I don't expect you
to add this feature because one person requested it, but are there
any plans for such a feature in the future?

BL Alien


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The Quick Search feature was intended to provide exactly this (assuming I
understand the question correctly). Unfortunately, there is a bug in it
when used in conjunction with the Language and Style Restriction options
(via the Settings menu). This will be fixed in an upcoming bug fix release.

In the meantime, if you don't engage the Restriction options, then Quick
Search ought to work nicely.

It's also possible I'm not understanding the request properly. If so,
please clarify to put me on track. :-)

Thanks, Rob

At 05:08 AM 3/27/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>What I'd really like to see is an input field in the Manage Inventory
>window that lets the user type in the name of the card and searches
>for the card in real time. Magic Workstation and many encyclopedia
>programs have a similar feature. For me, Card Vault is perfect in
>every way, except it is too hard to find specific cards when dealing
>with large lists (like the complete Magic card list), and Quick
>Search almost always gives me the wrong result. I don't expect you
>to add this feature because one person requested it, but are there
>any plans for such a feature in the future?
>
>BL Alien


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You could also try quick searching again from the incorrect result, or else
use the text box in the Filter tool to grab only cards with BLAH in the
name.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon" <blalien@aol.com>
To: cv@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:08 PM
Subject: [CardVault] There is only one teensy little feature that's keeping
me from buying Card Vault


> What I'd really like to see is an input field in the Manage Inventory
> window that lets the user type in the name of the card and searches
> for the card in real time. Magic Workstation and many encyclopedia
> programs have a similar feature. For me, Card Vault is perfect in
> every way, except it is too hard to find specific cards when dealing
> with large lists (like the complete Magic card list), and Quick
> Search almost always gives me the wrong result. I don't expect you
> to add this feature because one person requested it, but are there
> any plans for such a feature in the future?
>
> BL Alien
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If I understand him correctly, he means the same thing I meant when I originally brought up the subject. In Magic Suitcase, for one, there is a searchbox in the primary window (the floating Quick Search one is annoying) that when you press C automatically goes to the first card alphabetically that starts with a C. Then if you add an a, it goes to the first card alphabetically that begins with Ca, and so on. Download a copy of Magic Suitcase, its free and I prefer how its inventory and deck screen in one window works too. I guess what I'm saying is please rip them off. Please.


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----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Bowes
To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: [CardVault] There is only one teensy little feature that's keeping me from buying Card Vault


The Quick Search feature was intended to provide exactly this (assuming I
understand the question correctly). Unfortunately, there is a bug in it
when used in conjunction with the Language and Style Restriction options
(via the Settings menu). This will be fixed in an upcoming bug fix release.

In the meantime, if you don't engage the Restriction options, then Quick
Search ought to work nicely.

It's also possible I'm not understanding the request properly. If so,
please clarify to put me on track. :-)

Thanks, Rob

At 05:08 AM 3/27/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>What I'd really like to see is an input field in the Manage Inventory
>window that lets the user type in the name of the card and searches
>for the card in real time. Magic Workstation and many encyclopedia
>programs have a similar feature. For me, Card Vault is perfect in
>every way, except it is too hard to find specific cards when dealing
>with large lists (like the complete Magic card list), and Quick
>Search almost always gives me the wrong result. I don't expect you
>to add this feature because one person requested it, but are there
>any plans for such a feature in the future?
>
>BL Alien


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Yeah, Kyle was right about what I was looking for. I like Card
Vault's interface a lot more than Suitcase's though, and Card Vault
supports other games - I can finally get around to organizing my
Pokemon collection that's been sitting in my closet since 8th grade!
Disabling the restriction options did fix the Quick Search problem
(thanks!), but it's still no substitute for a real time search.

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> Yeah, Kyle was right about what I was looking for. I like Card
> Vault's interface a lot more than Suitcase's though, and Card Vault
> supports other games - I can finally get around to organizing my
> Pokemon collection that's been sitting in my closet since 8th grade!
> Disabling the restriction options did fix the Quick Search problem
> (thanks!), but it's still no substitute for a real time search.

Not that anyone cares, but the technical term I've heard bandied about
for this feature is "incremental search".

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OK, I now understand what you mean by "real time" search. It's been added
to the todo list....

-Rob

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Sorry, I thought I was clear originally ^__^


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----- Original Message -----
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To: cardvault@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [CardVault] Re: There is only one teensy little feature that's keeping me from buying Card Vault


OK, I now understand what you mean by "real time" search. It's been added
to the todo list....

-Rob

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Wow, you're willing to update your program because one person
requested it? This is the kewlest company ever! Remind me to buy
more of your products in the future.

BL Alien

--- In cardvault@yahoogroups.com, Rob Bowes <rob@w...> wrote:
> OK, I now understand what you mean by "real time" search. It's been
added
> to the todo list....
>
> -Rob
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If a feature sounds like something lots of folks could find useful, it will
definitely be put on the todo list. The number of folks asking for it (or
the anticipated utility of the feature) dictates the priority placed on it.
We can't do everything all at once, so we have to do the things that will
add the most value for the most users first.

We can't think of everything here. And we all use the product in our own
ways, so what works great for one person won't work as well for someone
else. If someone's got a good idea, we want to know about it so that we can
get it added to the product.

In my opinion, this just makes obvious sense. :-) It's a bit scary when
this seems to be an uncommon view among developers.

-Rob

At 05:34 AM 3/28/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Wow, you're willing to update your program because one person
>requested it? This is the kewlest company ever! Remind me to buy
>more of your products in the future.


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Well, I went to the mall and picked up a copy, and I've realized that
Quick Search really isn't all that bad. I was able to input my
collection fast enough (it took me 6 hours, but 3 of those hours was
spent playing Zelda, and another hour was spent chatting online).
Although, I have noticed a little room for improvement.
Specifically, an easy way to sort the cards within your decks would
be nice, along with an option to merge cards with identical names
when outputting your inventory. And, if possible, more customization
for inventory and deck reports would be nice, like numbering each
card or adding page breaks between different colors, but modifying
the html code's really not that hard. This is all nit-picking
though; Card Vault is a solid program, and I can live without all
these adjustments. Are there any plans for new software in the
future?

Wow, this turned out pretty coherent comsidering it's 3:30 in the
morning.

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At 09:24 AM 3/29/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Specifically, an easy way to sort the cards within your decks would
>be nice,

You can do this by right-clicking the column titles in the deck view and
choosing 'sort ascending' or 'sort descending'.

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Turst me Colen after having used it for a couple of days now the
number of filters in place, specifically for the game i play, Magic,
is staggering. Just play with them they are easy to use.



--- In cardvault@yahoogroups.com, Colen McAlister <colen@w...> wrote:
> At 09:24 AM 3/29/2003 +0000, you wrote:
> >Specifically, an easy way to sort the cards within your decks
would
> >be nice,
>
> You can do this by right-clicking the column titles in the deck
view and
> choosing 'sort ascending' or 'sort descending'.
>
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At 09:24 AM 3/29/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Well, I went to the mall and picked up a copy, and I've realized that
>Quick Search really isn't all that bad.

The only real difference between a "real-time" search and the current Quick
Search is that you have to hit the <Enter> key to trigger the jump. Not
exactly a huge extra effort. :-)

>Specifically, an easy way to sort the cards within your decks would
>be nice,

Right-click on the column header. Select the sort to use. You can't
single-click to do this as a safeguard against accidentally re-sorting a
deck that has been carefully organized. :-)

>along with an option to merge cards with identical names
>when outputting your inventory.

You can use the "Restrict" options under "Settings", as well as the Filter
mechanism to help with this. You can also highlight exactly the cards you
want and output only those cards. Beyond that, merging cards doesn't seem
like a good idea for inventory, since the cards are distinct and have
separate totals. Please explain how it would be a good thing to merge
duplicates within the inventory, since it's escaping me right now.

> And, if possible, more customization
>for inventory and deck reports would be nice, like numbering each
>card or adding page breaks between different colors, but modifying
>the html code's really not that hard.

Card numbers can be included as a column. Or do you simply want "line numbers"?

Adding page breaks between colors is starting to get very specicialized.
Before that stuff gets added, I think there are still some much more meaty
features that would be of significantly more value to add first. Features
like this get added when we start running out of "cool" things to add. And
my todo list is still a mile long. :-)

> This is all nit-picking
>though; Card Vault is a solid program, and I can live without all
>these adjustments. Are there any plans for new software in the
>future?

There's a bug fix release planned shortly. After that, nothing is definite yet.

By "new software", are you referring solely to new Card Vault updates? Or
are you referring to something else?

>Wow, this turned out pretty coherent comsidering it's 3:30 in the
>morning.

I can empathize. It's now just past 5am.... :-)

-Rob

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"You can use the "Restrict" options under "Settings", as well as the
Filter mechanism to help with this. You can also highlight exactly
the cards you want and output only those cards. Beyond that, merging
cards doesn't seem like a good idea for inventory, since the cards
are distinct and have separate totals. Please explain how it would be
a good thing to merge duplicates within the inventory, since it's
escaping me right now."

A merging option would be useful for organizing collections for
gaming purposes. If you have two Counterspells from 7th edition and
two Counterspells from Mercadian Masques, for example, it would be
more helpful to output "four Counterspells" than "two Counterspells
and two Counterspells". Also, a merging feature would be useful if
you want to maintain a binder and keep a reference to where each card
can be found, and you want to keep cards with identical names in the
same slot.

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OK, so you're looking for the merge functionality solely to collapse
output? That's more tractable. I'll put it on the todo list.

Someone recently asked for the ability to merge duplicates for tracking
quantities, including target/acquire/excess, and that's a LOT of work
(assuming it's even feasible).

Thanks, Rob

At 12:38 AM 3/31/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>A merging option would be useful for organizing collections for
>gaming purposes. If you have two Counterspells from 7th edition and
>two Counterspells from Mercadian Masques, for example, it would be
>more helpful to output "four Counterspells" than "two Counterspells
>and two Counterspells". Also, a merging feature would be useful if
>you want to maintain a binder and keep a reference to where each card
>can be found, and you want to keep cards with identical names in the
>same slot.


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