ShadowChemosh
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Tablet Wars II: Attack of Android 3.0
- Thread starter FifthWanderer
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OK, everybody stop and take a deep breath here. The animosity is mounting and it needs to stop NOW.
I realize that everyone has their favorite tablet device. I also realize that you have an investment in your favorite device and want us to support that device first. But that's no excuse for this thread to devolve into mudslinging, so further derisive comments will not be viewed kindly.
Let's keep this all civil, with no more slights for stating a differing opinion. Feel free to share your views, but strive to keep them grounded in facts - or at least anecdotal evidence.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussions....
I realize that everyone has their favorite tablet device. I also realize that you have an investment in your favorite device and want us to support that device first. But that's no excuse for this thread to devolve into mudslinging, so further derisive comments will not be viewed kindly.
Let's keep this all civil, with no more slights for stating a differing opinion. Feel free to share your views, but strive to keep them grounded in facts - or at least anecdotal evidence.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussions....
Appologies. I usually don't get sucked into these sort of discussions.
I'll need to add "Mobile OS's" to the list of "Sex, Politics, & Religion" as "things not to discuss" lol
Watch Rob just tell us we're all wrong and he's porting to WebOS or RIM fist!
You know a RIM fist doesn't sound that pleasant!!
vote for Hero Lab on Andoid
Would buy a Andorid table and Hero Lab for Andorid today if it were availiable.
I currently own a Andoid phone and will get a Andoid tablet by years end.
That being said in my neck of the woods I see many more iphones and iTablets.
Please consider develompment on Android.
Would buy a Andorid table and Hero Lab for Andorid today if it were availiable.
I currently own a Andoid phone and will get a Andoid tablet by years end.
That being said in my neck of the woods I see many more iphones and iTablets.
Please consider develompment on Android.
How about this?
I will buy whichever tablet Hero Lab is released on first. That is the main reason I want a tablet in the first place - viewing pdfs and running my characters at the game table.
I hope that is Android, since I see Android overtaking Apple soon in tablets just as they have in the phone market. But if it is an iPad, I will buy one for the sole purpose of running stuff for Pathfinder games.
What I would like to know - since the update says they can only work on one at a time - is what ARE the devs working on - iOS or Android? I have my preference as do others, but what matters to me is what will be available.
I will buy whichever tablet Hero Lab is released on first. That is the main reason I want a tablet in the first place - viewing pdfs and running my characters at the game table.
I hope that is Android, since I see Android overtaking Apple soon in tablets just as they have in the phone market. But if it is an iPad, I will buy one for the sole purpose of running stuff for Pathfinder games.
What I would like to know - since the update says they can only work on one at a time - is what ARE the devs working on - iOS or Android? I have my preference as do others, but what matters to me is what will be available.
ShadowChemosh
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Either tablet is still a ways off I suspect. As HL is first being ported over to Apple desktop. This also means from the rumors I hear that Paizo will start using HL officially in-house as they all use Macs.
Then from what I got with other posts here at HL is that the iPad would be the easiest place to go next as they already will have a apple working program.
That could of course change as it is many many months away I think for any tablet/smartphone app to come out. And as its all java based it maybe possible to support simultaneous development but I really doubt that...
Then from what I got with other posts here at HL is that the iPad would be the easiest place to go next as they already will have a apple working program.
That could of course change as it is many many months away I think for any tablet/smartphone app to come out. And as its all java based it maybe possible to support simultaneous development but I really doubt that...
We have NOT begun active development of a tablet-based version of Hero Lab yet. However, we DO expect to begin within the next few months, after we've wrapped up a few important things. We are closely watching the tablet-based market and have taken various steps to position ourselves for reasonably efficient development once we do get started.
@duhtroll - Since we haven't selected a platform yet, I can't tell you what platform we're developing for. We'll be choosing the platform in a few months, when we get started on development.
@shadowchemosh - The iPad will be easier in some ways once we complete the Mac port. However, the iPad also has some major roadblocks, such as Apple's huge royalty that could easily render an iPad version non-viable from a business standpoint. Remember, at the end of the day, everyone here expects to be paid so they can make their rent/mortgage. Also, Hero Lab is written entirely in C++ (not Java), and the Android now has the C++ devkit available. So we could just as easily go with Android at this point.
Once we actually pick a platform and development gets underway, we'll make an announcement to let everyone know what to expect. Also, we're currently planning to get started on the second platform well before the first one ships, provided there is a viable business case for both platforms. Consequently, we don't view this as an "either-or" situation - although it could become one if we don't expect to generate enough revenue from one of the platforms for it to be viable.
@duhtroll - Since we haven't selected a platform yet, I can't tell you what platform we're developing for. We'll be choosing the platform in a few months, when we get started on development.
@shadowchemosh - The iPad will be easier in some ways once we complete the Mac port. However, the iPad also has some major roadblocks, such as Apple's huge royalty that could easily render an iPad version non-viable from a business standpoint. Remember, at the end of the day, everyone here expects to be paid so they can make their rent/mortgage. Also, Hero Lab is written entirely in C++ (not Java), and the Android now has the C++ devkit available. So we could just as easily go with Android at this point.
Once we actually pick a platform and development gets underway, we'll make an announcement to let everyone know what to expect. Also, we're currently planning to get started on the second platform well before the first one ships, provided there is a viable business case for both platforms. Consequently, we don't view this as an "either-or" situation - although it could become one if we don't expect to generate enough revenue from one of the platforms for it to be viable.
Wow - TBH I didn't expect a reply from the dev team, especially so fast. Kudos on communication.
As for the "straw poll" I use a laptop because it is currently the only way to run HL at the table, so that is largely moot. There may be more iPads than Android tablets (which would make sense since they have been out longer), but there are exponentially more laptops out there than iPads.
If the question is about what people will have in the future, the numbers could be very different from what people have right now, given that people change/update devices every 1.5-2 years.
As for the "straw poll" I use a laptop because it is currently the only way to run HL at the table, so that is largely moot. There may be more iPads than Android tablets (which would make sense since they have been out longer), but there are exponentially more laptops out there than iPads.
If the question is about what people will have in the future, the numbers could be very different from what people have right now, given that people change/update devices every 1.5-2 years.
You miss the point.
Using a desktop or laptop for hero lab is the only option ATM, but as of now not the future, how many users on this forum have a tablet and what OS does it use?
Im not going to upgrade my devices anytime soon so I'm curious to see what the majority of people use ATM.
dragonladytoo
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I have a Nookcolor running Android 2.3 (Cynogenmod) and a HTC Evo (Android 2.2). In my area (Southern California) I have been seeing Android overtaking the Apple iPhone consistently and agressively.
Given my own investment and experience, my vote (for whatever it is worth) is to encourage the Wolflair people throw their lot in with the OS that is outselling the Apple IOS.
I have been using several apps lately for Pathfinder, and I gotta say "I Like it".
The ease of use with PDFs with my tablet continues my love affair with my Nookcolor and the Android OS.
Last as a user has been my experience with the cost differential of my Android tablet versus the cost of the Apple tablet. At $250 per tablet, I would be able to purchase two (or three) tablets for the cost of an Apple tablet, and I have been successfully using my tablet during games for resource and ruling lookups.
This means that I would be able to purchase more Wolflair software to install on my tablet (and its accompanying upgrades).
Given my own investment and experience, my vote (for whatever it is worth) is to encourage the Wolflair people throw their lot in with the OS that is outselling the Apple IOS.
I have been using several apps lately for Pathfinder, and I gotta say "I Like it".
The ease of use with PDFs with my tablet continues my love affair with my Nookcolor and the Android OS.
Last as a user has been my experience with the cost differential of my Android tablet versus the cost of the Apple tablet. At $250 per tablet, I would be able to purchase two (or three) tablets for the cost of an Apple tablet, and I have been successfully using my tablet during games for resource and ruling lookups.
This means that I would be able to purchase more Wolflair software to install on my tablet (and its accompanying upgrades).
No, my point is pretty clear. The laptop example was given because it doesn't matter what people have ATM.
What matters is what people will have when HL becomes available in for tablets in several months to a year or more.
Therefore, starting a poll about current equipment for something to be released in the future, when people will have different equipment, is not really indicative of anything substantial.
What matters is what people will have when HL becomes available in for tablets in several months to a year or more.
Therefore, starting a poll about current equipment for something to be released in the future, when people will have different equipment, is not really indicative of anything substantial.
Except having a current demographic of users!
I agree that the future equipment is a grey area but a poll now would generally indicate user preference ATM heck even a "I have a XXXX tablet but plan on getting a XXX tablet to replace it." statement would be a good indicator for future development.
I have several andriod tablets running everything from 2.2 to 3.0, but two of the other gamers in my group have iPads, so there is no clear winner.
However, I will agree with dragonlady, that the cost alone makes an Andriod tablet much more appealing since I can buy four Andriod tablets for the price of one iPad.
However, I will agree with dragonlady, that the cost alone makes an Andriod tablet much more appealing since I can buy four Andriod tablets for the price of one iPad.
ShadowChemosh
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Can you please link to these Andriod tablets that cost a little over a hundred bucks each? As your saying that you can buy 4 of them for the same price of an iPad which is $500 bucks.
Plus dragonlady is also talking about a Droid Phone (HTC Evo) which their is no way you could run something like HL on with a little 4 inch screen.