Spell Lists

[AceLizard]

I am wondering if it is possible to make a spell list much the same as is done in HeroForge/SpellForge.

Not everyone takes their laptop to the game table and let's face it, HeroLab is very much laptop oriented. Creating a character and choosing spells for a spell caster is done easily enough when one uses the program on a laptop, but there are still many that prefer to play with pencil and paper.

HeroForge/SpellForge lists the spells a spell caster can cast, the number the spell caster can cast, the DC for each spell (if applicable) and a brief description of each spell. For example, a X level Cleric can cast 4 1st level spells. HF/SF would list ALL the spells for the cleric s/he can cast. In this instance, only 1st level spells would be listed, and then when the game commenced, the player would then choose which of these spells s/he can cast.

As a separate sheet, this would be a boon for many spell casters as they would be able to print out their available spells, then choose which ones they might be able to cast.

Is this feasible? I'm sure it would be a benefit to players who choose NOT to bring their laptops to the gaming table.

 

[ShadowChemosh]

Just add all the spells to your character and then print the spell list. For example one of players has a cleric. He added every spell to his character sheet and then prints the spell & effects. The DC and information for the spell gets printed and then at the game table he checks off which spells he actually has memorized.

Seems to work pretty good.

 

[chiefweasel]

Yup should work, takes a bit of time but works fine.

 

[Kizan]

Cleric Spell Sheet?

I have an general sheet output question.

It's a question about spell lists. I built a 3rd level cleric in Hero Lab. I have not set any memorized spells. My players generally play on paper and will use the same character sheet for several sessions. So I let them make marks on the page showing which spell they have memorized. It's not an option to have laptops or PC's at the table for use as play aides.

When I output using any sheet that I could find (even the official one) there are no spells lists. Is there a way to get a sheet or add to a current sheet all legal spells for that class. Maybe it's something that I'm doing in Hero Lab? I've turned the "Don't Require Memorized Spells" option on and off but it didn't help.

I realize a cleric has almost all spells available to them (well a HUGE list anyway). Having a summary list and the option to print out a full listing would be very helpful. Especially since the cleric spells are spread out through so many different source books.

Thanx,

Kizan

 

[ShadowChemosh]

I don't currently know if a Custom Sheet could do this for you but I will take a look into it.

In the mean time what you would want to do is simply add ALL the spells to the memorized section and then when you print you will get a full list. HL won't stop you other than giving you a RED warning that you took too many spells.

Best I can say at the moment to accomplish this.

 

[Kizan]

I don't currently know if a Custom Sheet could do this for you but I will take a look into it.

In the mean time what you would want to do is simply add ALL the spells to the memorized section and then when you print you will get a full list. HL won't stop you other than giving you a RED warning that you took too many spells.

Best I can say at the moment to accomplish this.

Took your advice and "memorized" all the spells on the list for a 3rd level cleric. I have a few issues with this solution.

1. This is kinda small. Hero Lab complains about it. (Like I said kinda small).

2. In the Hero Lab UI it's difficult to tell which spells I already have memorized and which I don't. The spells aren't removed from the list as I select them. So it can be difficult to tell which are already on my list and which aren't. The first time through the list is no big deal as I just need to take them all, but as new spells are added to the list it will be almost impossible to tell which spells are already on the list and which ones are new. I'll have to go back and delete ALL the spells from the "memorized" section. A very slow process of one at a time and then re-add all the spells possible. To make sure I got all available spells. This is a very clunky and time consuming process.

3. Hero Lab crashes half the time when I ask it for a print preview or a PDF output. It is 27 pages in it's full text output. I'm guessing this problem will only increase as the PC gets higher levels (more spells) and more sources are released with more spells. I'm running a quad-core i7 with 16 Gigs of RAM so I don't think it's my machine.

4. It's unannotated even in it's FULL output form. Would it kill the Hero Lab devs to put a line in that lists source and page (or even just source book!) like they do for feats and special powers, etc. Especially for spells this can be a real time and paper saver. I could save 17 pages by printing the 10 page summary view, but without source information I'll spend forever looking up the full text when I need to see it (i.e. during a rules "discussion" AKA argument).

Kizan