Spell description showing twice

[flawlesscowboy]

Hello everyone,

I'm not sure if this is just working as intended or if I've triggered some option incorrectly, but when I'm trying to save my Druid to a .pdf file with a full list of spells I am seeing those I have prepared more than one of listed twice.

Can I just have the wording listed once and then there be some indicator of how many I have prepared? I would like to save on printing paper if possible, but given the overall convenience of this software it's hardly a deal breaker since I can just "unprepare" the spells and notate manually.

I've tried searching for this (and learned a lot about adding custom things) but I haven't found this particular answer, so any help is appreciated!

 

[Sendric]

Can you provide an example of a spell that is appearing twice? I am unable to reproduce this issue. It may also be useful to attach your .por here.

 

[flawlesscowboy]

I suspect this is working as intended, and I can always remove spells and save the spell list again, but this is what I'm seeing. My character sheet itself lists my prepared spells (just the name) once for each preparation I have:

The spell list I can generate though, with the descriptions, also has them listed once per preparation. See this image:

I only intended to use the spell list for reference, as I could just tick off the character sheet version or some other sheet of paper at the table itself. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing an option somewhere that would allow that output without trimming the list manually, then saving!

 

[ShadowChemosh]

Is this a Spell that you have done a Replace Thing ID with? I am thinking that can easily cause the duplicate SpInfo.? tag causing a duplicate Description to happen.

 

[flawlesscowboy]

Negative, it's regular spells too, though I did add a spell myself and it shows equal to the number of times prepared. I have images in my other post in this thread but a moderator needs to approve the post according to the message I'm getting!

 

[flawlesscowboy]

These are the two images from the missing post (assuming this one shows up!) showing the character sheet and the spell sheet output.

 

[ShadowChemosh]

These are the two images from the missing post (assuming this one shows up!) showing the character sheet and the spell sheet output.

That to me looks like you added the spell multiple times to the character. Its not the description that is doubling the text in the mouse info window.

Did you actually add the spell multiple times?

 

[Tarmor]

He mentions "have prepared more than one of", which I'd say is multiple copies of the same spell.
I've seen this in 3.5 too - I don't think there's any way around it. In Pathfinder, if you prepare a spell multiple times you can choose (for example) Cure Light Wounds x2, and then it only displays once on the spell summary/description pdf.

 

[flawlesscowboy]

That to me looks like you added the spell multiple times to the character. Its not the description that is doubling the text in the mouse info window.

Did you actually add the spell multiple times?

Yes, that's exactly what I did which obviously means this is how it was intended. I wasn't sure how to note that I wanted to prepare (spell) (number of times) except to add it more than once. Did I miss an annotation or something I could manipulate in the program itself?

It's also entirely possible that I'm not doing this in the "intended" way either since I've only been playing for a little over a year and before this my character sheets would get... Messy. If there's a different method most people would use to denote have multiple copies of the same spell prepared I don't know about it!

It also occurs to me now that perhaps most people don't take more than one copy of a spell? Considering that the majority of my time in gaming before this was digital and spell lists/pools/options are typically fewer with more repeated items (like in an MMO I would cast fireball forever while here I have a whole list of fiery things to cast) maybe I'm not approaching this like most people would because of that mindset?

 

[Sendric]

I think most players will take some spells multiple times. I certainly have. I just didn't understand the issue before now.

In short, yes, this is working as intended. d20 lacks the support to show a spell has been prepared multiple times like the Pathfinder system does. My suggestion would be to "prepare" only one version of each spell prior to printing out the spell descriptions, then go back and select all the spells you actually want prepared. That way the spell description print-out isn't as cluttered.

 

[ShadowChemosh]

Yes, that's exactly what I did which obviously means this is how it was intended. I wasn't sure how to note that I wanted to prepare (spell) (number of times) except to add it more than once. Did I miss an annotation or something I could manipulate in the program itself?

Nope this is how currently d20 works. NOT Hero Lab but d20 works this way.

It's also entirely possible that I'm not doing this in the "intended" way either since I've only been playing for a little over a year and before this my character sheets would get... Messy. If there's a different method most people would use to denote have multiple copies of the same spell prepared I don't know about it!

Nothing wrong with what your doing other than expecting paper to "look" totally different than the windows UI. If you added the spell twice in the HL software and you see it "twice" in the software why would you want the paper to look different?

I guess my statement makes more sense when you realize most people use HL software at the game table and don't use "paper" anymore. In addition for the 'most' part its meant that what you see in the software is the same as what gets printed.

The d20 game system is very out of date making use of new features of the HL software.

 

[flawlesscowboy]

Nothing wrong with what your doing other than expecting paper to "look" totally different than the windows UI. If you added the spell twice in the HL software and you see it "twice" in the software why would you want the paper to look different?

I get what you're saying, I wasn't taking into account that the output would be quite that literal but I understand why it is. It makes sense to me now.

As for looking different than the UI, for the character sheets themselves I get why you want to make sure nothing is unduly edited. My confusion was because I would have thought most people used the full spell description page in place of something like the SPC source book; basically use the spell description page as their reference guide. In that sense duplicate output wouldn't be useful unless the description would change between ranks or number of targets. Of course, as it turns out this isn't the case and my misunderstanding of the intended use for that output was confusing me!

I guess my statement makes more sense when you realize most people use HL software at the game table and don't use "paper" anymore. In addition for the 'most' part its meant that what you see in the software is the same as what gets printed.

The d20 game system is very out of date making use of new features of the HL software.

Haha, yeah, it's old. I think we'll eventually move to pathfinder as a group, but for this game we simply had too many old source materials to justify buying anything new until we were certain we'd have the ability to meet regularly!

I would absolutely prefer to not use paper for a variety of reasons, but currently computers are banned at the table for some good reasons, haha.

Thanks for your help, everyone!