Spell book for non-spellbook classes.

[Minous]

Is it possible to get a spell book for clerics and similar classes? I want to be able to get a printout of common spells that I may or may not have prepped. With Wizards and what not that is nicely handled by their spell book. For divine not so much....

 

[Aaron]

You could do that via an archetype, if you like.

 

[Minous]

Any suggestions on how? I like having the spell summaries and what not that output when a character has a spellbook. (Not looking to apply any spellbook related rules to the character, but do want a similar output like my witch has but for say a cleric)

 

[Mathias]

Aaron; he didn't mean converting the class to become a spellbook caster. He wants a printout option for all the spells a Cleric could potentially cast.

You can adjust the number prepared on a spell you've added to a character down to 0. It won't count against spells prepared, but it will show up on the printout of the character's current spells.

 

[Minous]

Aaron; he didn't mean converting the class to become a spellbook caster. He wants a printout option for all the spells a Cleric could potentially cast.

You can adjust the number prepared on a spell you've added to a character down to 0. It won't count against spells prepared, but it will show up on the printout of the character's current spells.

Yeah that gets the spell descriptions but not the other useful summary sheets. However it also makes the prepared spells section an utter disaster. When your going to have 100+ spells by 9-10 Lvl that you swap between across the spell levels cluttering he UI just seems like a crude hack. Being able to throw the list of spells into a book and then get all of the nice formatting and management just seems like a cleaner option if possible.

 

[Mathias]

Create a new character who's only used for generating the spell list. Then your real character can show only the spells you want, while all the potentials are available to print.

 

[Aaron]

Aaron; he didn't mean converting the class to become a spellbook caster. He wants a printout option for all the spells a Cleric could potentially cast.

You can adjust the number prepared on a spell you've added to a character down to 0. It won't count against spells prepared, but it will show up on the printout of the character's current spells.

As I understood it, he wanted to show a subset of all spells, those he is likely to cast. That suggests there should be 3 levels of filtering:
All spells (not wanted)
Likely Spells (want to print)
Currently Memorized spells (to keep the UI in the program clean)

If he were to use an archetype to convert the cleric to a spellbook caster, that would let him determine what goes into "Likely Spells" based on what he adds to the spellbook.

Drawback being that if he decides he does want to memorize an unlikely spell, he needs to go through an extra step adding it to the spellbook first. Also, he'd probably want to make his "spellbook" weigh nothing and have infinite pages, but it's easy to just drop it to the ground and ignore it for the most part.

 

[Aaron]

Any suggestions on how? I like having the spell summaries and what not that output when a character has a spellbook. (Not looking to apply any spellbook related rules to the character, but do want a similar output like my witch has but for say a cleric)

There are a couple archetypes which add spellbook casting to non-casting classes (Eldritch Scoundrel). I'd look there first.

 

[Aaron]

Oh, y'know what, I'm a total doofus.

 

[Aaron]

You don't actually need an archetype to do anything like this. Just add a prayer book and add whatever spells you like. From what I see, the Spellbook Dossier will show anyway.

 

[Aaron]

Oh, hmm, no, rather it is that the spells in the prayer book are showing alongside your memorized spells.

 

[Aaron]

Aaaand there are dupes if you have a spell in the prayer book and memorized at the same time. Y'know, I think I can probably make it so that the "Spells in Spellbook" dossier shows if you have a prayer or meditation book on the character, that probably wouldn't be hard. And at the same time maybe I can clean up the normal spells Dossier not to show the prayer book spells.

 

[Aaron]

This has been your "watch Aaron ramble to himself in an empty thread" hour. Thank you very much everybody! I'll be here all week!

 

[ShadowChemosh]

This has been your "watch Aaron ramble to himself in an empty thread" hour. Thank you very much everybody! I'll be here all week!

Stream of conscious!

 

[Minous]

This has been your "watch Aaron ramble to himself in an empty thread" hour. Thank you very much everybody! I'll be here all week!

Thank you for the laugh out loud moment but it really looks like you have a good idea of what I am looking for and an idea of how to progress. Are you creating a new item called a prayer book? If so keep in mind that this feature could be useful on all spellcasting classes that dont currently have a spell book. If you want I can post PDF examples of the Witch vs Cleric spell output differences that I was referring to.

 

[Aaron]

Nah, prayer books/meditation books are existing gear items from the book "arcane anthology". They function the same way as spellbooks (holding spells and whatnot), and your cleric can optionally consult them when prepping spells, in order to gain the benefit of the book's preparation ritual.

I'll just be tweaking them so they make the appropriate print option for spellbooks appear and list the spells inside themselves there. It's already done, I think, though it didn't make it in time for today's release, sorry.

 

[Minous]

Nah, prayer books/meditation books are existing gear items from the book "arcane anthology". They function the same way as spellbooks (holding spells and whatnot), and your cleric can optionally consult them when prepping spells, in order to gain the benefit of the book's preparation ritual.

I'll just be tweaking them so they make the appropriate print option for spellbooks appear and list the spells inside themselves there. It's already done, I think, though it didn't make it in time for today's release, sorry.

Thanks. I realized what you where talking about shortly after making that post. I pulled up one of my characters but couldnt find the item. Turns out that the character was configured for PFS Core, thus all the other stuff wasnt appearing.

Any ETA on when Ill be able to get my hands on that update? Oh and can you enable them to select other classes? right now you cannot pick a Cleric as a valid class. (Would be useful in spell list filtering)

 

[Aaron]

Thanks. I realized what you where talking about shortly after making that post. I pulled up one of my characters but couldnt find the item. Turns out that the character was configured for PFS Core, thus all the other stuff wasnt appearing.

Any ETA on when Ill be able to get my hands on that update? Oh and can you enable them to select other classes? right now you cannot pick a Cleric as a valid class. (Would be useful in spell list filtering)

It relies on some tag definitions and live expressions, so you'll have to wait for the official release around the end of the month, sorry. For the 2nd question, no-can-do, that selector is for which class the book is associated with and should be able to mem spells from it, it's not really related to filtering. And just type in "Cleric" to the filter bar and that'll do for you anyway.

 

[Minous]

Having a class filter would be nice so that you can do a multi term search. IE cleric spells with no SR, a given term or school.

 

[Aaron]

Having a class filter would be nice so that you can do a multi term search. IE cleric spells with no SR, a given term or school.

I too, wish we had some more powerful search stuff, but alas that's more than I am qualified to do.