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So now that Pathfinder 2.0 IS a thing, what now?

I often play at game stores where there is no or only spotty WiFi coverage.

Unfortunately LWD don't see this as a realistic scenario that is going to last long. WiFi will become ubiquitious everywhere on the planet where they want to sell HL.
 
Or everyone's going to have a cheap data plan, one or the other.

They said about 100k per hour. Don't need a cheap data plan for that usage level. WiFi and cell coverage is already ubiquitous, may be a couple of oddball locations, but then I guess HLO is just not for you.
 
They said about 100k per hour. Don't need a cheap data plan for that usage level. WiFi and cell coverage is already ubiquitous, may be a couple of oddball locations, but then I guess HLO is just not for you.

*snerk* You mean the thing I'm using to help my players create characters for the Pathfinder Playtest that I'm running, mentioned in my .sig?

All the places I game at are homes with broadband and wi-fi; I don't have any access issues. I'm just pedantic enough to have wanted to point out that there was an alternative to game store wi-fi.
 
I am an avid embracer of new technologies. Having said that, as the DM I simply cannot afford to sit down at a table with 4-6 faces staring at me and having to say "Sorry, we can't play our Pen and Paper game tonight, because *one of 50 random reasons the internet went down*."

I mean, I could just wing stuff, I've done it for years. But what's the point of using a product to do hours of planning if you can't access it when you need it. I travel a LOT for my job, and being without internet is not an uncommon situation. Even with 2 iPhones(one ATT and one Verizon), an iPad and staying at hotels (ugh... hotel internet....).

I am not late to parties or gatherings. I am early to work. I demand that my software works when "I" need it to work. No excuses.
 
I am an avid embracer of new technologies. Having said that, as the DM I simply cannot afford to sit down at a table with 4-6 faces staring at me and having to say "Sorry, we can't play our Pen and Paper game tonight, because *one of 50 random reasons the internet went down*."
Maybe get a new ISP? I have comcast and the only time the internet goes out is when the power goes out. The last time comcast was down was when we had a big wind storm and the power was out for 7 days also. Guess what? Comcast was back up in 2 days. (had a generator so got to watch tv in a dark cold house).

I also travel a lot, and yes internet can be slow, but I can't say that I have ever played from my hotel room. But the bandwidth would still have been more than enough for HLO.
 
Maybe get a new ISP? I have comcast and the only time the internet goes out is when the power goes out. The last time comcast was down was when we had a big wind storm and the power was out for 7 days also. Guess what? Comcast was back up in 2 days. (had a generator so got to watch tv in a dark cold house).

I also travel a lot, and yes internet can be slow, but I can't say that I have ever played from my hotel room. But the bandwidth would still have been more than enough for HLO.

The comment wasn't only about your local ISP, it was also about the other networks between your local device hosting the web browser and the HLO service running on a machine somewhere in the cloud (including availability of the server itself).

VTTs need the internet, because they are usually connecting people spread around the world. A character generator/manager for my character doesn't need to talk to other computers (except for that special space situation with a shared space ship in that particular game system).
 
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VTTs need the internet, because they are usually connecting people spread around the world. A character generator/manager for my character doesn't need to talk to other computers (except for that special space situation with a shared space ship in that particular game system).

Internet going down elsewhere between your ISP and the server is pretty darn rare. Now I will grant you that LWD has had their share of server outages, and this needs to get better.

Shared space ships aren't the only thing. I am looking forward to the tactical console importing characters from the other players and having real time updates for conditions/etc. In addition a shared loot system has also been talked about.

I will say I do have very poor cell reception in Costco's, but I rarely play RPG's there ;)
 
Internet going down elsewhere between your ISP and the server is pretty darn rare. Now I will grant you that LWD has had their share of server outages, and this needs to get better.

Shared space ships aren't the only thing. I am looking forward to the tactical console importing characters from the other players and having real time updates for conditions/etc. In addition a shared loot system has also been talked about.

I will say I do have very poor cell reception in Costco's, but I rarely play RPG's there ;)

I think the main point being, that Hero Lab Classic on a laptop has no connectivity issues, because connectivity is not required.
 
I think the main point being, that Hero Lab Classic on a laptop has no connectivity issues, because connectivity is not required.

Until you had a windows or hardware update and need to reactivate your license.

It hasn't happened to me, but one of my players was locked out of HLC for a weekend because he needed support help to reset his license. This will go away with HLO.

HLC classic is nice and I use it every weekend, but the interface is very dated, and there are difference interfaces on different platforms. HLO will be nice because it's the same on all platforms.
 
I’m with guildmaster on this. Give me HLC and I’ll be happy. If HLO becomes the only option from LWD then I will have to go elsewhere. Don’t want to do that though. Interface can be upgraded. Well written code need only be recompiled and will work on any platform. An online option is not an option at all for me.
 
And, HLO does have a print function. I print to PDF, have a nice dry erase board that is for Starfinder, and use that if I don't have internet. And doing it a day before gaming means I'll have the character handy. And for a con weekend, I'll make sure I have pre-printed.

And on the laptop. Nothing like turning on a laptop and discovering it's in a middle of an update.
 
And, HLO does have a print function. I print to PDF, have a nice dry erase board that is for Starfinder, and use that if I don't have internet. And doing it a day before gaming means I'll have the character handy. And for a con weekend, I'll make sure I have pre-printed.

But you don't get the live updates when you apply conditions to a character when it is on printed paper.
 
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