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Shadowrun 5 Core Book Released (PDF)

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Thorneldrich

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Catalyst has released SR5 Core Rulebook at DrivethruRPG. Now we wait to see if Catalyst & LoneWolf come to an agreement on 5th edition support through HeroLab or not.
 
They have already said they are working on it. Both catalyst and lone wolf have indicated its coming soon. Pdf is also available at their own store battlecorp.
 
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Damn you all, I had to jump over to DriveThru and pick up the PDF.

Guess I'll wait to get the SR HL files.
 
I'm gonna hold off on the PDF for now, I snagged the quick start and it doesn't look too different from 4 as of yet. I'm likely to preorder the hardback version, as having a physical copy of the book will be better for me.
 
Thorneldritch,

I seriously hope you realize that these books are "guidelines" and that any game master has the freedom to pick and choose which parts of the rules they will use and ignore others. If a GM doesn't agree with the "limiting" statistics they can just throw it out completely. House Rules always take precedence in my games. The accuracy rating of a weapon limiting how well you do with it may not be a popular change, but if its something you don't like as a GM you have the power to veto the rules use. I try to keep my gaming wiki updated with rules changes that I incorporate into my games, this allows players to see what I've altered before attending my game. These are just a few ideas I wanted to share with you. You should check with your GM to see what house rules are in effect before making your character.
 
I agree with the limits as well, it can get ridiculous with number of dice otherwise... I had one PC with 36 dice in negotiation tests if not prepared or 40+ if he could set it up...

None of the NPC's could stand against him...
 
I think the point of limits is fair so far, they won't come into play much, but a hacker with cheap gear and poor operating system can only do so much regardless of skill. Think about a hacker trying to break into a government black ops server with a pre-pentium 286 processor and 4 Megabytes of RAM to work with and a dial up modem. Will that hacker get far? Skill can only do so much if the equipment your working with is shoddy or outdated. The logic behind limits is justifiable, but they won't come into play on every dice pool. Only certain ones. Now the accuracy of a weapon limiting the number of Hits will be something I take under careful consideration. As use of firearms is partial skill and luck at times. You can be a great shooter but sometimes you need luck to get the shot off you are looking for.

I'm willing to give 5 a fair read before saying anything like I will stick to the old edition. From what I have read, 5 isn't too much different from 4 and the products from 4 should be usable still. I plan on changing anything I don't like in the rules. I try to keep an open mind with game editions as they appear. So far I like the way Shadowrun has evolved over the years, the system has gotten better and more enjoyable. And we don't need a bucket full of six sided dice anymore... Which is nice.
 
Thorneldrich said:
I remember when FASA started thinking like that. You don't see FASA around anymore do you? You'd think folks would learn from history but no, most are doomed to repeat it.
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Wow, really? You're going to stick the downfall of FASA on releasing new versions of their products? You don't like the concept of the limit system? That's fine. All I ask is you come up with legitimate arguements rather than trying to connect two completely unconnected events. You end up coming across as extremely ignorant.
 
FASA's fall was not directly related to just Shadowrun, and the priority system you criticized 5 for is in 4 as well.... Your GM can use that method, so you've successfully invalidated your own argument. FASA closed down in 2001 not because Shadowrun was doing poorly, but because the company owners were burned out. One of them wanted to retire completely and little faith in the gaming industry as a whole. Time proved him wrong, but its his loss. He missed out on the dividends he could have made. In fact when FASA closed its doors back in the day they were not even hurting financially... I suggest doing some research before criticizing people. You can Criticize Tom for MySpace turning to crap after he sold it all you want, but he is 950 million dollars richer from that sale, so why should he care? Same deal with the two guys that started fasa with $350 starting funds in 1980...
 
That and you peoples posts are too damn long to read, you have to remember some of us older gents just don't have the ... See, I was about to do it too.

I've started reading 5th ed, and still on stories/background on page 30, how far before I get to rolling my character!!!


BoomerET
 
Boomer,

Yes some posts are too long to read, I provided my input on it. I'm sure the hardback of this book will be made available at GenCon. Based on the August release date I've seen mentioned.
 
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