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Scarred Witch Doctor

MSFGreyFox

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Does anyone have the data file (or could recreate it) for the pre-errata scarred witch doctor? The one with Constitution dependency and all that. If someone does, could you give me a download link or something so I can use that version of the archetype? Thanks in advance
 
It might take me a bit to get a file ready adding the Pre-Errata version, but I will take a crack at it. Assuming no one posts one before I get it done.
 
DMM- Thanks again. Your file works fine for the spells being con-based. The hex DCs are still int-based, though. Also, when I activate the scarshield, it does not change my AC.

I tried putzing around with it, comparing your file to the file in an old version of HeroLab that still has the archetype as con-based (I'm not updating until we finish the adventure path for this character.), but I apparently don't know nearly enough about this to figure out anything useful.

I appreciate the work you did. Hopefully you will have the time to track down these issues.
 
Ok so here is the fixed verison. Hex Scar is now reporting Con bonus to DC. Seems the Scarshield is bugged. I added my own version to make it work. I was pulling it from the source that has the bugged special.
 

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Thanks again for your work on this. Scarshield works fine. Hex Scar uses Con bonus (on the Special tab), but the individual hexes on the Witch tab still adjust based on Int bonus. Hope you have a chance to look at it again.

Ok so here is the fixed verison. Hex Scar is now reporting Con bonus to DC. Seems the Scarshield is bugged. I added my own version to make it work. I was pulling it from the source that has the bugged special.
 
Well I see a problem. Seems some of the Hexes use Eval scripts to check for the arWitScarr archetype and then apply the durations and DCs based on that. Like Evil Eye for example does this and still has code for when it was a con based archetype. This means I either need to create new Hexes on this file to make them work properly (thus making multiple similar choices) or we need to ask LW to update the Hexes to use the Spell casting attribute or other variable to make this work. By the way arWitScarr is LW's version.


Edit: Fixed Hexes version on next page.
 
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Ok the Hexes should now respond accordingly. Seems Fierce Intelligence had what I needed to rework the Archetype. It now applies to abDC and abDuration if any other fields need fixing let me know.

I hope this message reaches you. I'm pretty new to Hero Lab and I've been looking for a way to roll Scarred Witch Doctor back. I've downloaded the file but how do I import it into Hero Lab?
 
Just copy the file into your Pathfinder data directory and you are done!
The location is usually C:\ProgramData\Hero Lab\data\pathfinder
Btw ProgramData is hidden in file explorer. You should be able to copy the address above and paste it into your Windows Explorer. It changes a bit if you use Linux and Wine.
Once you get access to that location just copy that .user file into it and run herolab.

If you find this a bit challenging a second solution is to load herolab and the game system the file belongs to (5e), just click ok to the new portfolio and look under Tools, you will find HLExport, run it. Then you can use the program to find the user file, under game folder (direct it to where you download files) and select that file. Under Third party id, name and version just put SWD Scarred Witch Doctor (pre-errata) and 1.0.
Select where you want that file to be made and run the program.
Once this is all done you can run the new .HL file and it will offer to import the file for you directly, plus you will have it under your third party updates under Tools, in-case you ever needed to delete it.
 
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Sorry to necro, but is Int supposed to still increase the Hex and spell DCs?
No. This thread is concerned with the Pre-Errata version: "Constitution Dependent: A scarred witch doctor uses Constitution instead of Intelligence when determining the highest level of spells she can cast, her spell save DCs, number of spells known at 1st level, and any effects of her hexes normally determined by her Intelligence."
Are you asking if this is the case, or saying that the user file posted here works on INT not CON?
 
I'm saying the file is using both to calculate Hex DCs.

The issue is with the eval script on the archetype:

PostAttributes 10000
Code:
      ~ Find any hexes taken by this class which have DCs, and add CON
      foreach pick in hero from BaseCustSp where "StandardDC.aINT & CustTaken.cHelpWit"
        eachpick.field[abDC].value += hero.child[aCON].field[aBonus].value
        eachpick.field[abDuration].value += hero.child[aCON].field[aBonus].value
        nexteach

There isn't an easy way to change over the duration calculations, but the way it should go to switch DC calc would be to move the script earlier and change the StandardDC tag. Like so:

PostLevels 10000
Code:
      ~ Find any hexes taken by this class which have DCs, and switch them to using CON
      foreach pick in hero from BaseCustSp where "StandardDC.aINT & CustTaken.cHelpWit"
        perform eachpick.tagreplace[StandardDC.aINT,StandardDC.aCON]
        nexteach
 
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