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RW Store Products?

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Pollution

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So, I know we have no ETA other than "soon" for the RW store. And while that drives me crazy at times, I can understand it (working in a Dev environment myself).

What I'm interested in, though, is what products are we looking at other than, "stuff the community creates."

I know there's some products from Kickstarter, but have any other companies jumped aboard the RW train?

I'm gearing up to run some PFS games, entering modules into RW, and I keep saying to myself, "Self, I would pay extra at the Paizo store for RW integration of these modules."

I mean, there are literally THOUSANDS of modules out there, let alone source books. I know that LW was showing off their iteration of RotRL for Paizo last year.

Do we have any hints, or "we're talking with...." about who/what we might see as "official" products in RW?
 
Pollution said:
So, I know we have no ETA other than "soon" for the RW store. And while that drives me crazy at times, I can understand it (working in a Dev environment myself).
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Makes one of us.. sorry, I disagree. As being a client for developers, there is such a thing as schedule slippage, but that would still require a schedule. It is how companies are paid contractually. No client (except us apparently) would continually except "soon".

Sorry Pollution, this made me chuckle...
You honestly don't think there is a plan do you?

As a certain Raccoon once heard... (Paraphrased) there's 12% of a plan.... but that in itself is not a plan.:D

Seriously,
I guess we will know when the doors open... till then we, the "partners, co-owners, and supporters" continue our trek into the dark.... oh if there were infra-vision available..... we might be at least able to distinguish the hot possibilities from the grey areas.:eek:
 
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Pollution said:
So, I know we have no ETA other than "soon" for the RW store. And while that drives me crazy at times, I can understand it (working in a Dev environment myself).

What I'm interested in, though, is what products are we looking at other than, "stuff the community creates."

I know there's some products from Kickstarter, but have any other companies jumped aboard the RW train?

I'm gearing up to run some PFS games, entering modules into RW, and I keep saying to myself, "Self, I would pay extra at the Paizo store for RW integration of these modules."

I mean, there are literally THOUSANDS of modules out there, let alone source books. I know that LW was showing off their iteration of RotRL for Paizo last year.

Do we have any hints, or "we're talking with...." about who/what we might see as "official" products in RW?
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Hey Pollution! We have been talking with Paizo since PaizoCon last year, but we don't have anything to announce yet. We've also been talking to other publishers. Unfortunately, we cannot announce anything with a publisher until everything is signed. :(
 
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Dark Lord Galen said:
Makes one of us.. sorry, I disagree. As being a client for developers, there is such a thing as schedule slippage, but that would still require a schedule. It is how companies are paid contractually. No client (except us apparently) would continually except "soon".

Sorry Pollution, this made me chuckle...
You honestly don't think there is a plan do you?

As a certain Raccoon once heard... (Paraphrased) there's 12% of a plan.... but that in itself is not a plan.:D

Seriously,
I guess we will know when the doors open... till then we, the "partners, co-owners, and supporters" continue our trek into the dark.... oh if there were infra-vision available..... we might be at least able to distinguish the hot possibilities from the grey areas.:eek:
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@DLG, it's clear from posts you've made recently that you're frustrated that our current priorities don't line up with your priorities. However, the above assertions are baseless claims.

The content we announced in the Kickstarter is still planned for Realm Works. We've been in discussion with other companies, but as I mention above, it's common practice to not make any announcements until there is an official agreement in place and both companies agree to an announcement.

As for timeline, we have an internal timeline for the development team. The reason we have been coy about release estimates is because timetables and release plans can change. We have shared our estimates in the past, but we received feedback from our users that the estimates were were not useful, as release estimates would sometimes be pushed back. Not giving release estimates is actually quote common for software products. However, we try to keep everyone updated when the team hits a major milestone (like our recent web-access sneak peak).

So saying there's no plan is completely false. You're welcome to say what you like and dislike about our products, the results of our survey, and even our business decisions, as is every other forum user, but I draw the line at spreading misinformation.

If you don't know the facts, you can ask for clarification in a thread and we'll answer if we can (obviously, we cannot share information like agreements in progress, information under NDA, etc.). All users also have the ability to PM me directly.
 
Parody said:
Psst...not me. ;)
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You're so popular that the name just jumps out!

@DLG, dude, enhance your chill. If they say, "We are hoping that the web store will open in May" and then a huge bug pops it's ugly head up and wrecks RW for 90% of users, and they come back and say, "Hey folks, we're really sorry, but that bug crushed us. We'll open the store in July." these forums would be going nuts over "broken promises." Of course they have a timeline. You can't write something as complex as a database without a project timeline, or a deliverables timeline, or a flippin' plan of some kind. It will happen. And when it does, it will have issues, bugs, poor content conversion from publishers, bad design from community users, all manner of issues. And they'll address those issues and it will get fixed. HL has been around forever, army builder before that. You don't have software like that in use for this long without supporting it.

@liz, Thanks for the update. I guess I was just wondering who besides Paizo you might be able to discuss. I know the ones from the kickstarter, but I'm curious about some other companies (I can see a real advantage for PFS scenarios, or Shadowrun Missions! or even White Wolf Products. And that's not even including Kobold, Frog God, TSR, and other companies).

While I'd love a timeline, I appreciate the fact that if I've got a question, I usually get a decent answer pretty quick.
 
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The Lone Wolf Forums, by Chemlak.

When on the Lone Wolf Forums
You'll find there's many folk
Who like to write about the time
When Realm Works was just broke.

There's every kind of person
And some you can't compare
But if you stay there long enough
You'll swiftly be aware

That just like other websites
And sundry other places
You get to know the regulars
E'en without seeing their faces

You might spot ShadowChemosh
Or Parody, Dark Lord Galen
While in your flights of fancy
Your thoughts they are a-sailin'

There's Pollution, and Vargr, too
And more I just can't mention
But we all know which ones just go
And grab our full attention

I speak, of course, of rob and crew
liz, davidp, and Joe
Whose damn hard work and friendly words
Help make our time here flow

Without their sterling efforts
This forum would be bland
(Just careful what you say to them,
If you'd rather not get banned)

So welcome all, enjoy your stay
Whate'er your gaming bent
Have fun here on the forums of
Lone Wolf Development.
 
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Quite possibly like many others I am really looking forward to the release of the content market- it is the principal reason that I took the plunge when I did with RW as the website said Coming Early 2015.

That said I have found that waiting has been extremely useful in that I been forced to learn how RW works, something I likely would have glossed over if the content market had been released already.

I am running a Pathfinder adventure path, hence my strong hope that your talks with Paizo bear fruit, but I have found that RW is almost too powerful and capable of containing far more info than I have time to enter. This really irks me at times as the purpose of RW is to enhance games, but I simply don't have time to do it justice.

In summation, REALLY looking forward to the Content Market release!
 
@Chemlak

..... wow .... I've been named!

Seriously though, damn, that was neat.

@Stuartwaring

I agree with you point about complexity and us having time to learn the software since release.

I was trying to imagine using RW with the content market from the get-go. I'm actually GLAD it wasn't out at launch. I've learned how to enter my own creations, the best way (for me and my group) to enter in scenarios (through trial and error with RotRL). I've learned how to customize categories, tags, topics, etc. when I put in a White Wolf SAS.

I'm actually feeling like I'm a "pro" user at this point. If I got a call from Paizo tomorrow asking me to input their products into RW, I could do it. And I could do it efficiently. Granted, I'm a Tech Writer by trade, but by this point, anyone who uses RW as a GM should be really familiar with how content works.

If the Content Marketplace was included at launch....I'd probably have wrecked everything I bought. or thought that RW was an inferior product, meant only for buying content. I'd bitch about the lack of maps in this scenario, or the lack of portraits in that scenario. I'd look at what was missing for my needs in a product and have no idea how to put in the extra. And, if I did put it in, I'd break the whole thing in the end.

What I'm saying, at this point is that now that I consider myself fully proficient with the software, I'm ready to use it not just from a creative stance, but also as a consumer. I'm ready to spend money on fully entered content, and fill in any blanks.

RotRL would be AMAZING. We're about to start book three, and I'm actually holding off on entering it in until the Content Market opens. It does take a long time, and I'd rather enter in my own additions, rather than the whole kit and caboodle.

Besides, once the market is open, I might be able to sell some of my stuff. help me pay for the stuff I want to buy.
 
stuartwaring said:
Quite possibly like many others I am really looking forward to the release of the content market- it is the principal reason that I took the plunge when I did with RW as the website said Coming Early 2015.

That said I have found that waiting has been extremely useful in that I been forced to learn how RW works, something I likely would have glossed over if the content market had been released already.

I am running a Pathfinder adventure path, hence my strong hope that your talks with Paizo bear fruit, but I have found that RW is almost too powerful and capable of containing far more info than I have time to enter. This really irks me at times as the purpose of RW is to enhance games, but I simply don't have time to do it justice.

In summation, REALLY looking forward to the Content Market release!
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Very true and well said. Thoguh for me I will unlikely use the RW content market unless we see a lot of one off adventures added, sometimes my creative juices dry up, and I have to say the idea that I could come here and by a one off adventure, shoe-horn it in to my campaign does have some serious draw.

However for me, the RW content market is a way to sell RW to the rest of my group, see I am in a weird gaming group, we have two extremely experienced game masters (myself and on other been doing this AD&D first edition), one very expereienced GM (since second edition), two getting their wings and flying high out of 7. This means we have quite a GM rotation (every 18-24 months), and I would ove to see RW used to its fullest in our group! Of the above only the two oldest GMs custom create their material, the rest are AP hounds, and why not? Paizo has some just spectaular module based campaign sized adventure paths.

It would be awesome if a GM can come here, buy the AP already in RW and run, the idea makes me giddy! We are about 6weeks from a new campaign start with RoTL anniversary edition as the staring AP. If only it would show up on the RW content market before we launch, I would love us to begin RW in play with this AP done by Rob and team.
 
Kendall-DM said:
Well done sir, well done!

Or madam, 'cause I really don't know gender from forum names. :P
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"Sir" is fine ;) Actually, so's "dude", "chap", "squire", and a whole host of others.

Thank you all for your appreciation of my silly little rhyme. It was fun to write. Sorry I didn't get more names into it! I'll do better next time.

Anyway, enough derailment.
 
@Chemlak: You do realize that from here on out you must post in haiku format. And on the upside, Rob does apparently accept bribes that flatter him and your posting moved calendars up on the to-do list by 1.15 hours.
 
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