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Quaternary Slot

Frodie

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Is there a reason why the Custom Ability Quaternary slot always shows two copies of the ability chosen? Is there a way to turn it off?
 
What I have is a Secondary Custom Ability that gives the user a choice of various Quaternary Custom Abilities, (they are just txt, with no scripts or anything).

This only seems to happen with the Quaternary slot. All the other slots are being used with no problems.

I attached a screen pic, there is an extra "Awe" listed in green. I tried to remove the Quaternary tag and it just moves the "green Awe" up to the primary slot. I tried to check the upgrade box, but no luck. Tried varies tag deletes and hides, but no luck.

Any ideas on how to get rid of this?

Thank you.
 

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Um I have never seen that before. Usually something in Green color means it was bootstrapped by something else. You don't have the ability bootstrapped to itself or something by mistake?

Sorry I am just guessing here... Wish I could be more help.. :(
 
Thanks, but no bootstrap, nothing but a short txt. I agree, the only time I have seen something in green is when it was given free, (like a bootstrapped feat, etc).

IDK, it's strange.
 
What I have is a Secondary Custom Ability that gives the user a choice of various Quaternary Custom Abilities, (they are just txt, with no scripts or anything).

This only seems to happen with the Quaternary slot. All the other slots are being used with no problems.

I attached a screen pic, there is an extra "Awe" listed in green. I tried to remove the Quaternary tag and it just moves the "green Awe" up to the primary slot. I tried to check the upgrade box, but no luck. Tried varies tag deletes and hides, but no luck.

Any ideas on how to get rid of this?

Thank you.

So the Awe ability had a Quaternary tag, and was showing on the Quaternary list, then when you removed it it started showing on the primary list? It must have a Secondary tag, or else you wouldn't be able to select it on the secondary table. Why did you give it 2 tags of that sort?

Also, sounds like your candidate field for the primary abilities isn't filtering out things with the Secondary tag. Did you make any manual changes to that?
 
I didn't give it a second tag. It only had 2 tags: The Quaternary tag and the tag for archetype that has access to it.

If I did change the candidate field, I don't know how I did. That is way too deep for me.

But, I gave up on it and changed the ability around a bit and moved everything out of Quaternary slot and made some simple abilities.

I try to avoid using that slot because it always seems to do this. IDK the other slots work great.
 
It's been awhile and I was wondering if this was ever fixed? Trying to do some updates and it would be nice to use the Quaternary slot with it posting double abilities in the UI.
 
It doesn't look like we got to the bottom of things. Do you still have the user file? I could take a look into it further. We're just about done with the next release so I'll soon have a bit of free time.
 
It's a new file I am doing for a 3pp. It's cool, I'll just have to not use the Quaternary slot.
It's is weird, all the other slots work great, just not the Quaternary.
 
Well if it's an error I should still fix it. Which means I'll have to reproduce it, and that'd be much easier with your help.
 
Well it seems to happen with any class that is made up, even with no add-ons or user files. Just give a class a Custom Ability, (even with nothing scripted or tagged, just plain txt), in the Quaternary slot. Then in the UI chose that ability. It will show up twice in the UI and there seems no way to hide or delete the second copy.
 
Well, here is egg on my face. Seems the test file I made up works just fine, (of course). I really can't post the file because it's someone else's 3pp material and I am just helping them out. So IDK, looks like I'll just not use the 4th slot. Thanks anyways for trying to help. Here is the test file and you can see what I am doing and if something might effect it.
 

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I got it to reproduce the error.

Ok, it seems to show up when there are abilities tied to all the other slots. I have it set up with an ability for each of the slots, and chosen at 1st level, except the 4th slot. The 3rd slot gives a bonuses to gain a 4th slot choice. I know hard to follow, but just select all the available abilities and you should see what the issue is.

Thank you again for your time and help.
 

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