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Printing Content

darthfrodo said:
My point is that my primary use of Realm Works is not for at-the-table use, but for developing a Story Bible for my game world, including adventures. So I want to be able to have output, even if it's just electronic such as HTML or PDF.
Cheers,
Darth Frodo
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Exactly. My players aren't interested in the product, or introducing anything to the table that is electronic. My whole interest in Realm Works is to develop a story bible, as Darth Frodo said. For me, it's a worldbuilding tool.

Having said that, printing and exporting (to PDF, at the least) is very important. In fact, it would be nice to be able to export to a variety of formats, like HTML.
 
Joe said:
Printing will come, but it is not as high priority as other features. The main reason is that Realm Works data is meant to be used live at the table, so the GM can keep up to date with what they players have learned via progressive reveal.

When you print out a topic for example, you immediately lose out on a lot of powerful features Realm Works has to offer. Especially if you're already bringing it to your table on your iPad, we'd like to start leveraging the cloud so you can access your data in your iPad's browser. I'm pretty excited for that. :)

Again, that's not to say we won't be making printing available, or even that printing won't come until after everything else is done. But whatever we put into place will likely be basic and no-frills, at least for a while, since printed content is so different from the overall Realm Works vision.
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I recently bought Realms Works and discussed it with the other GM's of our group. One of them bluntly said "if you cannot print it is useless". While I do not agree with such a harsh comment I agree that printing is very important.

iPad support is useless for us as all our GMs only have Android Pads available, no iPad here. And at least one of us 3 GMs prefers print outs to using electronic gear (that's the one with the "useless" comment ^^)

So a +1 from me for Print support (actually a +3 as all 3 GMs agreed, printing is needed when I showed them the program). It is probably NOT needed for all components. Where it is absolutely vital I think is the plot parts as well as the map with pin points stuff. And it would be "nice to have though not vital" in other parts.
 
+1 to printing/export - this was a major bummer for me when I initially created some content and could not do either. An absolutely essential piece to me for a world building tool.
 
MagicSN said:
iPad support is useless for us as all our GMs only have Android Pads available, no iPad here. And at least one of us 3 GMs prefers print outs to using electronic gear (that's the one with the "useless" comment ^^)
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Yep, me, too. I have a work iPad, but my personal tablet is an Android one.
 
I actually prefer printouts to electronic gear as well. Im a software engineer, have multiple computers, an ipad, an android phone, run windows, mac, and linux at home, so im not a tech disliker. That being said, when I run my games or when I play, if there are really nice and beautiful handouts, I think thats much nicer than electronic devices.
 
Print, PDF export, whatever it takes to be able to get the information in a hardcopy form would be greatly appreciated, pretty much for all the reasons others have shared.
 
Rabit said:
Print, PDF export, whatever it takes to be able to get the information in a hardcopy form would be greatly appreciated, pretty much for all the reasons others have shared.
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Seems to me that printing and exporting are the same thing, except that the ultimate destination is different.
 
Zaphod Beebledoc said:
Seems to me that printing and exporting are the same thing, except that the ultimate destination is different.
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They are. We're talking about reports. A report queries the database and formats the resulting data in some useful way: a table, fancy page designs, plain text, CSV, XML, or whatever other format you'd like. The results can be shown onscreen, printed or PDFed, saved to disk, or whatever.
 
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I can see the printing option being very difficult when it comes to handling purchased content, since it probably won't want to print the data which has been purchased (due to copyright reasons).
 
It seems to me that it shouldn't be any different from a purchased .pdf, where the onus is on the end user to respect the license restrictions specified by the publisher.
 
Farling said:
I can see the printing option being very difficult when it comes to handling purchased content, since it probably won't want to print the data which has been purchased (due to copyright reasons).
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I don't understand the big deal here. You are already going to be able to share it through the player and web interface (once those become available), at least with your group. If not, then purchasing a commercial module or world would be useless since you couldn't share it with your players. I can understand limits on printing/sharing of commercial content as long as it's reasonable, say 30 unique accounts per year or something... that should cover roughly 5 average gaming groups of up to 6 players in a year.

Plus, a part of your purchase price will be a fee sent back to the content owners as part of the license agreement. So the content owners are getting paid for your purchase.
 
What kind of printing are we talking about though?

Simple printing of reports and document dumps? Or are we talking about being able to format a professional looking module with main text, side bar text, graphics with text flowing around it... something like Publisher, or one of the professionally used desktop publishing programs for layout?

The first should be easy, but if you want to layout a professional looking module then that seems a bit harder... to me.
 
Farling said:
I can see the printing option being very difficult when it comes to handling purchased content, since it probably won't want to print the data which has been purchased (due to copyright reasons).
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why not follow the PAIZO/pdf model with that? Which is that printing is allowed, but only for personal use (in game use would qualify as that).
 
or maybe it could be controlled via the content owner? So that you could have different licenses? one for printing and one without?
 
Hi there!

Was there already an official Statement how exactly the printing & export options will look like?

Though LW stated that the entered data is "each one's own content" which was an important buying decision point, I realized shortly after, that it is possible to get my data "in" but never "out" again. It is great that it is on the todo list (according to the FAQ).

It is important that we can print / export multiple items at once. The current way the UI works worries me a little which is why I wanted to point that out again.
 
Another +1 for printing. More for my use as a GM than player handouts. I'm often going to be running games in a game room at a FLGS with restaurant. There may not be room to set up the laptop, let alone a second monitor.
 
Exactly. Often we play outside , in the garden etc. So the techy-option is not always available and all the time entering the data was well almost wasted because i just look at it when i enter it initially. And as stated numerous times, printing is not quite enough. Exporting it to other formats would be great as well.
 
+1 from me. I won't use it every session, but it enables me to, for example, store some electronic versions of in-game documents that I will want to hand out to the party in hardcopy. My workaround is to use MWSnap to grab it offscreen as a jpeg, but resolution can suffer. Thanks folks.
 
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