Fixed in the next update, thanks for the report. (fortunately, it was looking for Dazzling Display to fill that prereq, just listing the wrong feat in its text).
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Pathfinder Bug Reports - Version 3.6
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Fixed in the next update, thanks for the report. (fortunately, it was looking for Dazzling Display to fill that prereq, just listing the wrong feat in its text).
In the description of the Animal Type (Bestiary, pg. 306), it says "Proficient with no armor unless trained for war."
Rather than restricting it to light armor proficiency, I've interpreted this as meaning that the Combat Training trick (from animal handling) grants light, medium, and heavy armor proficiencies.
Otherwise, the riding dog as listed in the bestiary would not be proficient with the scale barding it's pictured in (admittedly, an illustration shouldn't be relied upon for this sort of thing). I haven't seen anything else that suggests a war-trained animal should need to purchase additional armor proficiencies. As 2 HD creatures, if they receive light armor proficiency free from combat training, the riding dog and horse don't have the feat slots available to purchase both medium and heavy armor proficiencies. So how do you get a mount in full plate barding?
If anyone's seen any errata or official answers that support this or refute it, I'm happy to alter my interpretation of the rules.
When I add 7 HD to the hydra using the "Additional HD" option on the classes tab, the hydra has 12 bite attacks and fast healing 12. The # heads added or removed counter on the in-play tab also properly goes from -12 (all the heads chopped off) to +12 (they can't have a total number of heads beyond 2 * HD). I'm afraid I can't duplicate what you're seeing.
The AC increase with additional HD wasn't being applied. Thanks for reporting that, it'll be fixed in the next update.
ShadowChemosh
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While I am in 100% agreement here as Plate Barding is pretty common for a heavy warhorse and be strange to have to waste 2 additional feats to get it. On the other strange hand the write up for the Cavalier Mount says the following: The mount is always considered combat trained and begins play with Light Armor Proficiency as a bonus feat.
So by exact wording it is only Light by reading it RAW. Though JJ seems to sort of imply HERE that the wording was too change when the final version was to come out.
So while I will house rule all three armors for War-Trained it's not exactly what the rules say. Best I can show for additional info.
Fixed in the next update, thanks for the report.
Fixed in the next update, thanks for the report.
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Fixed in the next update, thanks for the report.
Because this effect only applies to Ride checks while riding the mount, not all ride checks, it isn't displayed in Hero Lab.
Starting with a blank character, I added a level of summoner, added the Eidolon, and then selected Quadruped. The bite's damage is 1d6+3, with a STR bonus of +2, so it's including the x1.5. What are you seeing?
Thanks for the report. I've put this on my to-do list.
I'm not sure if I'll get to it before the next update, but I've put it on my to-do list.
I've put this on my to-do list, thanks for the report.
When the lists can't finish putting everything on the first page, they spill over to the second page.
Weapon ordering is on my to-do list.
On the configure hero form that you see when you create a new character (or go to the character menu and select "Configure Hero Form", click on the list of options that's on the right hand side. Near the bottom of this list will be "Hide Unarmed (in weapons)"
While I am in 100% agreement here as Plate Barding is pretty common for a heavy warhorse and be strange to have to waste 2 additional feats to get it. On the other strange hand the write up for the Cavalier Mount says the following: The mount is always considered combat trained and begins play with Light Armor Proficiency as a bonus feat.
So by exact wording it is only Light by reading it RAW. Though JJ seems to sort of imply HERE that the wording was too change when the final version was to come out.
So while I will house rule all three armors for War-Trained it's not exactly what the rules say. Best I can show for additional info.
I think I'll hold off on this for a little while, and see if we can find something more directly on point. Thanks for the quick answer.
I think this is all my fault, I was trying to select the Improved Natural Attack (bite) evolution and the Bite evolution was throwing me off. But I did notice that HL says you need to be a 5th level summoner to select the Improved Natural Armor Evolution and thats not correct.
From the natural armor evolution: "This evolution can be taken once for every 5 levels the summoner possesses."
Maidhc O Casain
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Thanks, Matthias! I know I really bugged you about this one . . .
ShadowChemosh
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I found something more on point from JJ yesterday and figured I will point you to the post. The full post is located HERE.I think I'll hold off on this for a little while, and see if we can find something more directly on point. Thanks for the quick answer.While I am in 100% agreement here as Plate Barding is pretty common for a heavy warhorse and be strange to have to waste 2 additional feats to get it. On the other strange hand the write up for the Cavalier Mount says the following: The mount is always considered combat trained and begins play with Light Armor Proficiency as a bonus feat.
So by exact wording it is only Light by reading it RAW. Though JJ seems to sort of imply HERE that the wording was too change when the final version was to come out.
So while I will house rule all three armors for War-Trained it's not exactly what the rules say. Best I can show for additional info.
He is kind of rambling but the important part is "For now, though, it's safe to assume that a mount that's trained for war gets Light Armor proficiency for free, but needs to spend feats to get better armor. This does mean that most normal horses will never be able to get heavy armor training, and I'm kind of okay with that."
Hope that helps.
Not sure if this is a bug but when changing the size category of a 2-handed weapon to small for a medium sized creature it becomes light and 1-handed and reduces the atk bonus by -2 which is correct.
However if you dual wield say a small greataxe you get the 1.5x str bonus (not sure if thats normal or not, i get the impression from other places that the 1.5x str mod is to a weapon considered 2-handed not if you wield it that way) and you don't receive a further -2 to your atk bonus if you have two weapon fighting.
Is that correct? currently I get a 1.5x str mod to dmg and only -2 atk bonus to both weaps, which in this case leaves me with +7 to atk bonus from a +9 normal on both, i wouldve assumed that i would get the extra -2 to atk bonus from dual wield to give a -4 total.
However if you dual wield say a small greataxe you get the 1.5x str bonus (not sure if thats normal or not, i get the impression from other places that the 1.5x str mod is to a weapon considered 2-handed not if you wield it that way) and you don't receive a further -2 to your atk bonus if you have two weapon fighting.
Is that correct? currently I get a 1.5x str mod to dmg and only -2 atk bonus to both weaps, which in this case leaves me with +7 to atk bonus from a +9 normal on both, i wouldve assumed that i would get the extra -2 to atk bonus from dual wield to give a -4 total.
I don't think it becomes light, but it does become 1-hd. I am not 100% sure what you are going for here, but this is what I get from your question: you are taking a 2-hd weapon, and making it small (for instance, a greataxe sized for a halfling). Then, I assume you are going to give this weapon to a medium creature (for instance, obtain the halfling's greataxe and give it to a human for use). Then, you want said human to have two of them and dual-wield.
Not quite correct. You get 1.5x STRmod to damage when you wield a 1-hd or 2-hd weapon with two hands (not light weapons). If you wield two of these (such as your two halfling greataxes), you will apply 1x STRmod to damage for the main hand and 0.5x STRmod to damage for the off-hand. The feat Double Slice will let you apply 1x STRmod to damage for the off-hand.
If you are wielding one weapon in each hand, you cannot get 1.5x STRmod, because you aren't using anything 2-handed, you are using a 1-hd weapon in each hand. Assuming you have the Two-Weapon Fighting feat, this will affect your attack modifier as follows: you are at -2 to both attacks for using a weapon sized for something other than yourself, and -4 to each hand for two-weapon-fighting with a 1-hd weapon in each hand. This is a total of -6 penalty to each attack (-2 for wrong-sized weapons, -4 for TWF with 1-hd/1-hd weapons)