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Orks - Lootas vehicle options

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> >On a related note KOS ors can only ever take one looted rhino since the
> >mandatory addition of grot riggers takes them to 51+ points.
>
> It's the base cost of the vehicle, not the cost after upgrades etc., that
> matters.

Thats the way I (and my Orky opponents) see it.


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> The Q&A specifically says they can use the Indirect Fire upgrade. That's a
> good point, though; the looted vehicles shouldn't be able to take the
Smoke
> Launchers. The normal Loota unit still uses the black codex lists, because
> it specifically states that the units should come from the "Warhammer
> 40,000" rulebook.

I believe the codex should overrule the 40,000 rulebook. In this case, the
Ork codex was written before the IG codex (IIRC), and so you had to
reference the black book. Now that we have the IG Codex, it should be used
instead of the rulebook.

-Shawn


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Yeh, but it was written after the Space Marine Book, and it still say's to use the Black Codex.

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----- Original Message -----
From: Shawn Campbell
To: armybuilder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AB] Orks - Lootas vehicle options


> The Q&A specifically says they can use the Indirect Fire upgrade. That's a
> good point, though; the looted vehicles shouldn't be able to take the
Smoke
> Launchers. The normal Loota unit still uses the black codex lists, because
> it specifically states that the units should come from the "Warhammer
> 40,000" rulebook.

I believe the codex should overrule the 40,000 rulebook. In this case, the
Ork codex was written before the IG codex (IIRC), and so you had to
reference the black book. Now that we have the IG Codex, it should be used
instead of the rulebook.

-Shawn


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> Yeh, but it was written after the Space Marine Book, and it still say's to
use the Black Codex.

GW like doing cock-ups - ref: stormbolters on Chaos Rhinos :-)


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It was actually done that, way because it meant u didnt need to buy the other codexes to use the options, that simple.

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In this article Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org> wrote
>>On a related note KOS ors can only ever take one looted rhino since the
>>mandatory addition of grot riggers takes them to 51+ points.
>
>It's the base cost of the vehicle, not the cost after upgrades etc., that
>matters.

Not according to the infamous Q&A.

27) If a looted Rhino is upgraded with weapon options (bolt on big
shootas for example), would that mean only 1 Rhino could be taken (since
any upgrade would put it above 50 points)? Or is it just for the
initial cost where you have to deal with the 51+points limitation?

The former - it's the vehicle worth that's the issue.

The former here refers to "would that mean only 1 rhino could be taken,
since the latter answer is "Or is it just for the initial cost...etc".

Or to put it another way, if I blow your vehicle up, what is it worth
for victory points? The cost of the vehicle and all upgrades, not the
initial/base cost of that vehicle.

Cheers

Grotfang, not so humble ork warlord.

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--- In armybuilder@y..., "-= JIMI =-" <james.tubman@b...> wrote:
> > > 'black codex'??
> >
> > The "black codex" is the lists at the back of the main rulebook.
The main
> > rulebook is black.
>
> A-ha - I see!! Arent those army lists in the rulebook redundant
when the
> relevent codex is available??

Yes, they are. Also, IIRC, you CANNOT use any SM/IG vehicle gear for
Looted vehicles... So, no Smokes for Looted Rhinos/Razorbacks.
>
> Because if they arent then the ability to upgraded a looted
Basilisk with
> Indirect Fire no longer exists as it only appears in the IG codex
and not
> the rulebook.
>
> You cant have it both ways - either use the rulebook army lists or
use the
> codexes.
>
>
> Jimi
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> Yes, they are. Also, IIRC, you CANNOT use any SM/IG vehicle gear for
> Looted vehicles... So, no Smokes for Looted Rhinos/Razorbacks.

Quite true.


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