[Modiphius 2d20] Star Trek Adventures

[PGoodman13]

I, too, am interested. PM sent.

 

[PGoodman13]

Okay, I'm more than willing to accept that I'm a dolt...but after retrieving the files from GitHub, how the heck do I get them into Hero Lab to test/use them? The FAQ was less than helpful, I'm afraid.

 

[TCArknight]

Sorry about not getting back to you until now, RL bit me like a hungry Targ yesterday.

I just sent you a PM with a link to the *.hl file so there’s no need for all the github mess.

Will just need to be sure you have the Authoring kit for it not to come up in Demo mode. Looking forward to any and all feedback.

Thanks!
TC

 

[TCArknight]

Would the Star Trek dataset that you've built be able to be ported over into OTHER Modiphius 2D20 games? I'm getting ready to run an Infinity game, and I'm REALLY missing not being able to use Hero Lab to create NPCs.

However I'm fairly certain I don't have the programming talent to build a kit for it myself.

I wouldn’t have to say possibly.

I’m not familiar with character creation in Infinity, but since I did the STA one and a Conan version for myself, I’m definitely familiar with the differences in 2d20 system.

Can you shoot me a PM so we can discuss this offline?

 

[PGoodman13]

Sorry about not getting back to you until now, RL bit me like a hungry Targ yesterday.

BTDT.

I just sent you a PM with a link to the *.hl file so there’s no need for all the github mess.

Sweet.

I have really got to stop posting things at 1 in the morning....

Will just need to be sure you have the Authoring kit for it not to come up in Demo mode. Looking forward to any and all feedback.

Pretty sure I do. Guess I'll find out soon.

Where would you like feedback?

 

[PGoodman13]

Okay, first bit of feedback: The files won't load. At all.

Hero Lab 8.8 - #825

I imported the .hl file you linked me to. Warned me that there were a lot of older files; I imported anyway because I'm daring and stupid like that.

Find the STA entry in the "Select a Game" dialog. I take this as a good sign.

Try to load the game. get a lot of "Duplicate record encountered" errors. The error box doesn't allow me to copy-and-paste the error messages, or I would do so.

Now what, boss?

 

[TCArknight]

Try deleting the Star Trek Adventures folder from your data directory and reimporting. When you pulled from github, I bet it created the folder with different names of the files or such.... maybe having a .dat and a .user or such....

Blowing away that folder and reimporting should work then...

 

[PGoodman13]

Will give it a shot after work.

 

[PGoodman13]

Deep-sixing the data folder and re-importing from the link you sent me did the trick. Was able to open things up and look around; will have better feedback later.

 

[PGoodman13]

Okay, finally got a chance to get into this and look around.

Building a Constitution-class refit; series is set in 2295. The app doesn't choke on this like the "official" online app, which doesn't allow for variation in things. The core book, for some unknown reason, says the class was retired in 2290, which is silly on the face of it considering ST6...but I digress. Your data set lets me build the ship in the year I want so I don't miss out on a refit. I like this.

It tells me that I've overspent on Traits, but there's not a specific number of traits set out in the rules. Every ship starts with one, but there isn't a set limit. Some of the examples have two or three. I don't think we need to have the Traits tracked like that, but there may be a good solid programming reason for it, so....

Weapon damage is coming up wrong. Phaser banks add 1 CD to the damage, and the ship should have basic phaser damage of Scale + Security, so in the case of this version of the Lexington (Scale 4, Sec 3), total phaser damage should be 8 (7 base plus 1 for banks). It shows 5.

Photon torpedoes should be 3 + Security, so in this case 6. It shows 4.

I can send you the portfolio for the ship if it'll help.

 

[TCArknight]

Thanks very much!

Unfortunately, my hard drive crashed a couple days ago, and I’m trying to figure out a way to get all my data back... (seems like the boot sector may be dead, but may be wishful thinking. )

This feedback is exactly what I was looking for. Once I get a couputer up and running I’ll look it over and see what can be fixed.

 

[PGoodman13]

Oh, man. That blows. Hope you can recover the stuff you really need.

On the starship validation report, I get the following, most of which is kind of irrelevant with a ship as opposed to a character. At least one of them seems superfluous for either.

• Attribute Slots: Resource unspent
• Character Points: Resource unspent
• Discipline Slots: Resource unspent
• Trait Slots: Resource overspent

I've already commented on the Traits. Character Points is a bit of a null concept with STA chargen. Ships don't have Attributes and Disciplines, but Systems and Departments.

Mostly, building a ship has been pretty clean. A few hiccups here and there, but I don't imagine it's anything major. (Then again, I'm not a programmer.)

Again, will send you the portfolio when you're back up and running.

 

[PGoodman13]

Okay, trying to create a main character. When I get to career events, there's only a couple on the list, neither of which I want to use. So obviously, that list needs to get finished so that you can make the lifepath decisions you want to make.

When I chose Veteran for the character, it correctly added the Veteran Talent, but it didn't add the fourth Talent to the list; it tells me I have used 4 of 3 Talents.

I didn't keep as careful a set of notes as I should have as I built her, but I'm not sure how her Control got to 11 as quickly as it did. I don't recall that happening with the manual test run I did a few months ago. Sorry; I'll try to do better as we go forward.

 

[TCArknight]

Okay, trying to create a main character. When I get to career events, there's only a couple on the list, neither of which I want to use. So obviously, that list needs to get finished so that you can make the lifepath decisions you want to make.

When I chose Veteran for the character, it correctly added the Veteran Talent, but it didn't add the fourth Talent to the list; it tells me I have used 4 of 3 Talents.

I didn't keep as careful a set of notes as I should have as I built her, but I'm not sure how her Control got to 11 as quickly as it did. I don't recall that happening with the manual test run I did a few months ago. Sorry; I'll try to do better as we go forward.

Thank you very much for this! I’ll be glad when I get back to some kind of place to do dev stuff again.

Regarding the career events, grab this file from my github and copy it into the data folder: thing_careerevents.dat

That’s one of the last things I did before the crash...

 

[PGoodman13]

All right, that did appear to solve the career events issue. So that's one down....

 

[PGoodman13]

In step 4, Starfleet Academy, regardless of educational track chosen, you get 3 points for Attributes. While it's possible to spend them 2 on one Attribute and 1 on a second, the rules clearly state that you can spend 1 each on three different Attributes. This is on pages 116-117 of the core book.

The program right now only recognizes the "2 points on 1 Attribute, and 1 point on another" approach. This should be changed (when you finally get the chance) to allow for possibly raising three Attribs by 1 each.

Getting back to the career events: You might add to the description of each event which Attrib and Discipline the event affects, if you can do that without getting into trouble with Modiphius for putting too much rule information into the product.

 

[SSiron]

I am new to this thread, but I believe (at least as far as ship and starbases) you can only have as many traits as equal to your structure.

Then again, I could be wrong. I just looked back at where I read that, and it is on a fan site, not an official thing from Modifius.

 

[PGoodman13]

Number of Ship Talents is equal to Scale, per Nathan Dowdell (who wrote the rules, so he should know).

There's not a specific limit to Traits, for either characters or ships, that I can recall.

 

[SSiron]

Number of Ship Talents is equal to Scale, per Nathan Dowdell (who wrote the rules, so he should know).

There's not a specific limit to Traits, for either characters or ships, that I can recall.

You knew what I meant... I said traits when I meant Talents. And yes, I looked it up again in the core book for ship. What I was referring to was the Starbase creation rules put out there from Continuing Mission site. That one they limit the talents to the scale/structure of the Starbase.

I managed to grab the files from GitHub a few days ago, and I am in the process of adjusting some of the errors and making a read me file to go along with it. I'll be sending it to TCArknight as soon as I am finished with the edits. I already had to restart twice due to removing something that broke the dataset.

 

[SSiron]

Ok, I finished altering and updating what I could and have everything ready to hand out to other people if they want it.

Disclaimer, I am not the original author of the dataset, I merely fiddled with some of the files and added missing content while trying not to break the character creator. I am not a programmer, some items are still needed.