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Lord of the Rings Shadow & Flame Supplement

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I have taken over maintenance of the AB files for the GW Lord of the Rings
games from Steven Cox. I have nearly completed incorporating the new
supplement but GW have just thrown in a revised rule for Elven Blades.

I need a little help with a couple of points. Firstly how do I get the files
distributed? I believe that they need uploading to the ABFiles group.

Secondly there is a goblin drum which comprises a drum and two drummers. It
compares closely to a war machine with crew. I have made the drum a unit and
it takes an option for drummers which in turn calls a unit of two goblins.
This gives me three models. However the drum does not count towards the
total model count for the force. How can I make the drum not be counted?

Terry

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Hi Terry,

One way round this would be to create the unit based on the drummers rather
than the drum. They could have the usual 2:2 size statistic, with the drum
being treated as an item rather than a child unit (or model).

This means that the drum is present on the roster, and has its rules
available, but does not count as a character model.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Simon Day

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Maltman [SMTP:terrymaltman@hotmail.com]
> Sent: 30 June 2003 08:39
> To: armybuilder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [AB] Lord of the Rings Shadow & Flame Supplement
>
>
> I have taken over maintenance of the AB files for the GW Lord of the Rings
>
> games from Steven Cox. I have nearly completed incorporating the new
> supplement but GW have just thrown in a revised rule for Elven Blades.
>
> I need a little help with a couple of points. Firstly how do I get the
> files
> distributed? I believe that they need uploading to the ABFiles group.
>
> Secondly there is a goblin drum which comprises a drum and two drummers.
> It
> compares closely to a war machine with crew. I have made the drum a unit
> and
> it takes an option for drummers which in turn calls a unit of two goblins.
>
> This gives me three models. However the drum does not count towards the
> total model count for the force. How can I make the drum not be counted?
>
> Terry
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Thanks for that Simon. I nearly missed it as the mail got lost
switching between digest and individual modes.

Terry

--- In armybuilder@yahoogroups.com, "Day, Simon" <simon.day@c...>
wrote:
> Hi Terry,
>
> One way round this would be to create the unit based on the
drummers rather
> than the drum. They could have the usual 2:2 size statistic, with
the drum
> being treated as an item rather than a child unit (or model).
>
> This means that the drum is present on the roster, and has its rules
> available, but does not count as a character model.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Cheers,
> Simon Day
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Terry Maltman [SMTP:terrymaltman@h...]
> > Sent: 30 June 2003 08:39
> > To: armybuilder@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [AB] Lord of the Rings Shadow & Flame Supplement
> >
> >
> > I have taken over maintenance of the AB files for the GW Lord of
the Rings
> >
> > games from Steven Cox. I have nearly completed incorporating the
new
> > supplement but GW have just thrown in a revised rule for Elven
Blades.
> >
> > I need a little help with a couple of points. Firstly how do I
get the
> > files
> > distributed? I believe that they need uploading to the ABFiles
group.
> >
> > Secondly there is a goblin drum which comprises a drum and two
drummers.
> > It
> > compares closely to a war machine with crew. I have made the drum
a unit
> > and
> > it takes an option for drummers which in turn calls a unit of two
goblins.
> >
> > This gives me three models. However the drum does not count
towards the
> > total model count for the force. How can I make the drum not be
counted?
> >
> > Terry



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Sorry to reply to my own post but I remembered why I discounted that option.
The drum needs a profile so the 'drum' option would call a 'drum' unit and
back to a model count of 1.

Terry


>From: "terry_maltman" <terrymaltman@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: armybuilder@yahoogroups.com
>To: armybuilder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [AB] Lord of the Rings Shadow & Flame Supplement
>Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 20:32:11 -0000
>
>Thanks for that Simon. I nearly missed it as the mail got lost
>switching between digest and individual modes.
>
>Terry
>
>--- In armybuilder@yahoogroups.com, "Day, Simon" <simon.day@c...>
>wrote:
> > Hi Terry,
> >
> > One way round this would be to create the unit based on the
>drummers rather
> > than the drum. They could have the usual 2:2 size statistic, with
>the drum
> > being treated as an item rather than a child unit (or model).
> >
> > This means that the drum is present on the roster, and has its rules
> > available, but does not count as a character model.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Simon Day
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Terry Maltman [SMTP:terrymaltman@h...]
> > > Sent: 30 June 2003 08:39
> > > To: armybuilder@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [AB] Lord of the Rings Shadow & Flame Supplement
> > >
> > >
> > > I have taken over maintenance of the AB files for the GW Lord of
>the Rings
> > >
> > > games from Steven Cox. I have nearly completed incorporating the
>new
> > > supplement but GW have just thrown in a revised rule for Elven
>Blades.
> > >
> > > I need a little help with a couple of points. Firstly how do I
>get the
> > > files
> > > distributed? I believe that they need uploading to the ABFiles
>group.
> > >
> > > Secondly there is a goblin drum which comprises a drum and two
>drummers.
> > > It
> > > compares closely to a war machine with crew. I have made the drum
>a unit
> > > and
> > > it takes an option for drummers which in turn calls a unit of two
>goblins.
> > >
> > > This gives me three models. However the drum does not count
>towards the
> > > total model count for the force. How can I make the drum not be
>counted?
> > >
> > > Terry
>
>
>
>
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At 08:39 AM 6/30/2003 +0100, you wrote:

>I have taken over maintenance of the AB files for the GW Lord of the Rings
>games from Steven Cox. I have nearly completed incorporating the new
>supplement but GW have just thrown in a revised rule for Elven Blades.
>
>I need a little help with a couple of points. Firstly how do I get the files
>distributed? I believe that they need uploading to the ABFiles group.

Drop us an email at support@wolflair.com; we'll get you set up with an
authoring account so you can have Army Builder distribute the files for you.

>Secondly there is a goblin drum which comprises a drum and two drummers. It
>compares closely to a war machine with crew. I have made the drum a unit and
>it takes an option for drummers which in turn calls a unit of two goblins.
>This gives me three models. However the drum does not count towards the
>total model count for the force. How can I make the drum not be counted?

Try giving it a unit size of 0, with the 'zero' unit local attribute; this
will make it a unit of 0 models. However, this will also reduce the cost of
the unit to 0 (since 0 * whatever the cost of one model is, is 0), so
you'll need to give it an option with the 'cost:single' attribute costing
the same amount as the unit - this will bring the cost back up to its
proper level, and everyone will be happy.

Hope this helps.


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Colen McAlister (colen@wolflair.com)
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>From: Colen McAlister <colen@wolflair.com>
>
> >Secondly there is a goblin drum which comprises a drum and two drummers.
>
>Try giving it a unit size of 0, with the 'zero' unit local attribute; this
>will make it a unit of 0 models. However, this will also reduce the cost of
>the unit to 0 (since 0 * whatever the cost of one model is, is 0), so
>you'll need to give it an option with the 'cost:single' attribute costing
>the same amount as the unit - this will bring the cost back up to its
>proper level, and everyone will be happy.
>
>Hope this helps.

I’ll give it a try thanks. The cost should not be a problem. I can allocate
that via the crew unless the zero for the drum acts as a multiplier.

Terry

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>From: Colen McAlister <colen@wolflair.com>
>
>Drop us an email at support@wolflair.com; we'll get you set up with an
>authoring account so you can have Army Builder distribute the files for
>you.
>--
>Colen McAlister (colen@wolflair.com)
>Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com

Colen,

I mailed support last Thursday but I haven't heard anything yet?

Terry

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