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L5R v5.2 Corrections

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More mistaken factoins in the L5R file. Gee, who'da thunk I'd be the
one to find those? From the looks of the mistakes, I'm assuming that
some of these were caused by the new automation program, so I'm
including quotes from the card text that may have mislead the
program.
Unless otherwise noted, that's what quotes are from. When I gave
the
hard and fast faction rules, I didn't forsee this would happen.
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Mitsu (Exp)
Jade Edition
Pearl Edition
NOT Dragon Faction
This is a MRP of Togashi Mitsu (Exp), Crimson & Jade

Thunder Dragon (Exp)
Soul of the Empire
NOT Brotherhood Faction
"You must have Monks and/or Shugenja in play ... to bring Thunder
Dragon into play."

Togashi Hoshi
Jade Edition
NOT Brotherhood Faction
Does NOT have MONK trait
Another automator snap "Will join Brotherhood for 2 less."

Togashi Hoshi (Exp)
NOT Brotherhood Faction
"Will join Brotherhood for 2 less."

Togashi Hoshi (Exp 2)
Ambition's Debt
Gold Edition
NOT Brotherhood Faction
Does NOT have MONK trait
"will only join Dragon or Monk player"

Hida Sukune (Exp)
Pre-Gold Promo
NOT Shadowlands Faction
"Won't join a player that has Shadowlands card in play."

Hida Yakamono (Exp)
Crimson & Jade
NOT Shadowland Faction
"will not enter play if you have any Shadowlands..."

Hiruma Osuna
Scorpion Clan Coup 3
NOT Shadowland Faction
"...while dueling Shadowlands."

Toturi (Exp 2)
Time of the Void
NOT Lion Faction
card text: "Toturi is not a member of the Lion Clan"
Rob, stop banging your head against the table. We need that brain
intact for coding. ;)


Shabura (Exp)
Crimson & Jade
NOT Shadowlands Faction
"...when opposed by Shadowlands..."

Bayushi Kachiko (Exp 2)
Time of the Void
NOT Ninja or Shadowlands Faction
Does NOT have Ninja, Shadawland, or Kolat traits.
"...may not be targeted by Ninja, Kolat, or Assassins...", "...all
Shadowlands cards..."

Ginawa (Exp)
Crimson & Jade
Jade Edition
Pearl Edition
NOT Ninja Faction or Trait
"...bonus when dueling Ninja"

Ginawa (Exp 2)
NOT Ninja Faction
does NOT have Ninja or Bloodsword trait
"...bonus when dueling ninja... attack a bloodwsword..."

Kemmei
Crimson & Jade
should be Mantis/YA Faction
MRP

Isawa Tadaka (Exp 2)
Time of the Void
I couldn've sworn he was errattaed to be Shadowlands. Someone will
have to confirm this for me.

The Nameless One
Shadowlands
NOT Shadowlands Faction
"...when dueling a Shadowlands Personality."

Seppun Toshinken
HE, Dark Journey Home
NOT Crane Faction
"will join the Crane Clan for 1 less..."

Mirumoto Bujun (SoSM)
You can take off the (SoSM), its the only set he showed up in.

Togashi Kokujin
Anvil of Despair
NOT Dragon Clan
First line should read "Unaligned Corrupted Tattooed Man", not
"Dragon
Clan Tattooed Man"
Hitomi Kokujin (Jade Edition) is a MRP of this card
(Yeah, this did alot of this in Jade Edition)

Brotherhood of Shinsei STRONGHOLD
Crimson & Jade
Should be Brotherhood Faction

Hidden Temples of the Naga
Shadowlands
Should be Naga Fiction

Mountain Keep of the Dragon
Battle of Beiden Pass
Should be Dragon Faction

Ruined Fortress of the Scorpion
Shadowlands
Should be Scorpion Faction

Toturi's Army STRONGHOLD
Anvil of Despair
Should be Toturi's Army Faction

War Fortress of the Crab
Battle of Beiden Pass
Should be Crab Fation

Yojo Junzo's Army
Anvil of Despair
Should be Shadowlands Faction
MRP in Jade Edion to name "The Shadowlands Horde"

Yoritomo's Alliane STRONGHOLD
Crimson & Jade
Should be Mantis Faction

Naga Bushi
Scorpion Clan Coup Reprint
NOT Naga Faction
NOT Gold Legal

Ratling Pack
Scorpion Clan Coup reprint
NOT Ratling Faction

Goblin Chuckers
Scorpion Clan Coup reprint
NOT Shadowland Faction

Skeletal Troops
Scorpion Clan Coup reprint
NOT Shadowland Faction

Swamp Spirts
Scorpion Clan Coup reprint
NOT Shadowland Faction

Asako Riders
Spirit Wars
NOT Spirit Faction

Spirit Guide
Emerald Edition
NOT Spirit Faction

Spirit Hounds
Spirit Wars
NOT Spirit Faction

Shiba House Guard
Gold Edition
Shadowlands
DOES have Phoenix Faction

Shinjo House Guard
Gold Edition
DOES have Unicorn Faction

ditto all House Guards in Gold Edtion, just like thier Shadowlands
counterparts

Leave Hitomi Kazaq the way he is, trying to resolve that hurts my
head.

I'm not sure if it means anything to you Rob, but these are older
cards. Jade was the only base set they did a lot of factoin
shuffling, and Jeff Alexander would probably fall on his sword before
letting another card like Toturi (Exp2) see print again.


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--- Alex Durden <hunter.rose@att.net> wrote:
> More mistaken factoins in the L5R file. Gee, who'da thunk I'd be the
> one to find those? From the looks of the mistakes, I'm assuming that
> some of these were caused by the new automation program, so I'm
> including quotes from the card text that may have mislead the
> program.

This is the reason I did this all by hand. The number of exceptions to rules,
and the complexity of the parser to get this all right is mind-boggling. It was
easier to generate trait lists by hand!



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Kuni Tetsu
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Moderator of ClanWar-l

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--- In cardvault@yahoogroups.com, Kuni Tetsu <kuni_tetsu@y...> wrote:
>
> --- Alex Durden <hunter.rose@a...> wrote:
> > From the looks of the mistakes, I'm assuming that some of
> > these were caused by the new automation program
>
> This is the reason I did this all by hand. The number of
> exceptions to rules, and the complexity of the parser to get
> this all right is mind-boggling. It was easier to generate trait
> lists by hand!

If it makes you feel any better, a text parser will probably work
wonders with the more evolved and streamlined Warlord CCG.

I'll still find something to nitpick about, though. ;)


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Also, don't work too hard to adapt the parser to munch some of the
more esoteric older examples. Just do them by hand, since Gold the
cards have been much more streamlined, and this will only improve in
Diamond.

Abilio

--- Alex Durden <hunter.rose@att.net> wrote:
> --- In cardvault@yahoogroups.com, Kuni Tetsu <kuni_tetsu@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- Alex Durden <hunter.rose@a...> wrote:
> > > From the looks of the mistakes, I'm assuming that some of
> > > these were caused by the new automation program
> >
> > This is the reason I did this all by hand. The number of
> > exceptions to rules, and the complexity of the parser to get
> > this all right is mind-boggling. It was easier to generate trait
> > lists by hand!
>
> If it makes you feel any better, a text parser will probably work
> wonders with the more evolved and streamlined Warlord CCG.
>
> I'll still find something to nitpick about, though. ;)
>
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Individually, it was definitely easier each release to do all the work by
hand. However, all that time piled up and finally caught up with you,
making it impractical to keep investing the significant chunk of time with
each new release. As long as you were driving the data files, it was
entirely your call on how to manage them. Once you needed to relinquish
them due to time constraints, I knew that *I* would never be able to invest
the time every release, so the automated converter was necessary. :-)

It's been a lot of work, but the converter is actually doing a pretty good
job now, especially considering all the insanity and inconsistencies within
L5R "speak". And I'm logging all the problem reports that folks are
posting, so the converter will improve in the next release of the data
files. The converter even has the means to insert manual
overrides/corrections to the automated data, so the bugs can either be
corrected within the converter or simply "patched", as necessary.

For the moment, I'm focused on finishing up the V1.3 release and dealing
with some matters in my personal life that make it impossible for me to
work my usual 100 hours per week. I'll get the L5R files updated as soon as
things stabilize a bit on this end (hopefully next week).

Thanks, Rob

At 10:59 AM 9/7/2003 -0700, you wrote:

>--- Alex Durden <hunter.rose@att.net> wrote:
> > More mistaken factoins in the L5R file. Gee, who'da thunk I'd be the
> > one to find those? From the looks of the mistakes, I'm assuming that
> > some of these were caused by the new automation program, so I'm
> > including quotes from the card text that may have mislead the
> > program.
>
>This is the reason I did this all by hand. The number of exceptions to rules,
>and the complexity of the parser to get this all right is mind-boggling.
>It was
>easier to generate trait lists by hand!


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