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durus_samhain@hotmail.com wrote:

> Hello All,
> Am new to the group and just don't have the time to scan through the
> entire archive to see if my question has already been answered.
> It pretains to Warhammer 40K.
> In the Army Builder program you are able to get Scout Squads. For
> these Scouts Squads you are able to purchase upgrades to Sniper
> Rifles for five points a piece. For any model in the squad. Least
> that is what the codex for Space Marines states.
> However, in the Army Builder program, you can not get a sniper rifle
> for the sergeant of the Scout Squad. I am having an army validation
> conflict when I go to save or print out the roster.
> How do I fix this, short of not upgrading the sergeant to a sniper
> rifle.


That's about it... if you check on page 5 of the SM codex is says
something to the effect of "upgrades normally available to the squad are
not available to the sgt". Yes, we know Paul Sawyer did it in a battle
report; no, it does not set a precedent. Also, if you were to check the
FAQ for the 40k files (Help/Warhammer 40,000 FAQ), under "Why can't
Scout Sergeants take Sniper Rifles?" it also answers the question.

trent
 
Hello All,
Am new to the group and just don't have the time to scan through the
entire archive to see if my question has already been answered.
It pretains to Warhammer 40K.
In the Army Builder program you are able to get Scout Squads. For
these Scouts Squads you are able to purchase upgrades to Sniper
Rifles for five points a piece. For any model in the squad. Least
that is what the codex for Space Marines states.
However, in the Army Builder program, you can not get a sniper rifle
for the sergeant of the Scout Squad. I am having an army validation
conflict when I go to save or print out the roster.
How do I fix this, short of not upgrading the sergeant to a sniper
rifle.

DS...
 
At 05:21 PM 27/04/01, you wrote:
>Hello All,
>Am new to the group and just don't have the time to scan through the
>entire archive to see if my question has already been answered.
>It pretains to Warhammer 40K.
>In the Army Builder program you are able to get Scout Squads. For
>these Scouts Squads you are able to purchase upgrades to Sniper
>Rifles for five points a piece. For any model in the squad. Least
>that is what the codex for Space Marines states.
>However, in the Army Builder program, you can not get a sniper rifle
>for the sergeant of the Scout Squad. I am having an army validation
>conflict when I go to save or print out the roster.
>How do I fix this, short of not upgrading the sergeant to a sniper
>rifle.
>
>DS...

This is in the FAQ for the files, but you're new so here goes anyway. You
can't give the sergeant a sniper rifle. No really. Check out page 5 of
codex space marines under Options, in Army List Entries.

Cheers,
Phil G.


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> Hello All,
> Am new to the group and just don't have the time to scan through the
> entire archive to see if my question has already been answered.
> It pretains to Warhammer 40K.
> In the Army Builder program you are able to get Scout Squads. For
> these Scouts Squads you are able to purchase upgrades to Sniper
> Rifles for five points a piece. For any model in the squad. Least
> that is what the codex for Space Marines states.
> However, in the Army Builder program, you can not get a sniper rifle
> for the sergeant of the Scout Squad. I am having an army validation
> conflict when I go to save or print out the roster.
> How do I fix this, short of not upgrading the sergeant to a sniper
> rifle.

You don't. The reason that you get this validation error is that the
Sergeant CANOT carry a sniper rifle. Colin, should this be added to the
40K FAQ?
 
I believe its one of the first things mentioned in the FAQ...

Fred

In a message dated 4/27/01 3:36:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
cbeilby@hroads.net writes:


> You don't. The reason that you get this validation error is that the
> Sergeant CANOT carry a sniper rifle. Colin, should this be added to the
>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
You can give a Sergeant a Sniper Rifle. It says ANY MODEL in the codex.
I will look at the FAQ though I didn't see it on the first read.

DS...


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>I believe its one of the first things mentioned in the FAQ...
>
>Fred
>
>In a message dated 4/27/01 3:36:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>cbeilby@hroads.net writes:
>
>
> > You don't. The reason that you get this validation error is that the
> > Sergeant CANOT carry a sniper rifle. Colin, should this be added to
>the
> >
>
>
>
>
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Ok, read where it says to add more, add extra, etc. But all those do is add
addition memebers to the squad.
The SPACE MARINE CODEX, on page 10, middle of the page, under SCOUT SQUAD
states that...
Options: Any model in the squad may replace their bolt pistol and close
combat weapon with a sniper rifle at +5 pts, or a bolter or shotgun at no
additional points cost.
You CAN NOT do this with AB so far as I have seen.

DS...


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>I believe its one of the first things mentioned in the FAQ...
>
>Fred
>
>In a message dated 4/27/01 3:36:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>cbeilby@hroads.net writes:
>
>
> > You don't. The reason that you get this validation error is that the
> > Sergeant CANOT carry a sniper rifle. Colin, should this be added to
>the
> >
>
>
>
>
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> For any model in the squad. Least
> that is what the codex for Space Marines states.

Codex:Space Marines, page 5.

> How do I fix this

Easy - you just understand the rule that disallows sergeants from having
weapon upgrades as per page 5 of C:SM


Jimi

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My bad. Got it now.
Actually don't know how I missed that. Over zealous about being able to
field sniper rifles.

DS...


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> > For any model in the squad. Least
> > that is what the codex for Space Marines states.
>
>Codex:Space Marines, page 5.
>
> > How do I fix this
>
>Easy - you just understand the rule that disallows sergeants from having
>weapon upgrades as per page 5 of C:SM
>
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One fine day in the middle of the night, Christopher Beilby
<cbeilby@hroads.net> got up to write:

>You don't. The reason that you get this validation error is that the
>Sergeant CANOT carry a sniper rifle. Colin, should this be added to the
>40K FAQ?

It's in the FAQ, in the first section I believe. *sigh

This is why I have the large, moderately rude "ATTENTION" banner when
you start the files. It has helped, thankfully, but not enough :/

Incidentally, this is one of the reasons why I like this list - most
people ask this question here, where I don't have to answer it because
someone else sees it first. Thanks chaps :)

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Still had not gotten the anwswer from the FAQ. That seemed only to deal with
squad sizes. Took being told where to look in the codex to clairfiy why you
were unable to get the sniper rifle for the sergeant.

DS...


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> >You don't. The reason that you get this validation error is that the
> >Sergeant CANOT carry a sniper rifle. Colin, should this be added to the
> >40K FAQ?
>
>It's in the FAQ, in the first section I believe. *sigh
>
>This is why I have the large, moderately rude "ATTENTION" banner when
>you start the files. It has helped, thankfully, but not enough :/
>
>Incidentally, this is one of the reasons why I like this list - most
>people ask this question here, where I don't have to answer it because
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>
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> Ok, read where it says to add more, add extra, etc. But all those do is
add
> addition memebers to the squad.
> The SPACE MARINE CODEX, on page 10, middle of the page, under SCOUT SQUAD
> states that...
> Options: Any model in the squad may replace their bolt pistol and close
> combat weapon with a sniper rifle at +5 pts, or a bolter or shotgun at no
> additional points cost.
> You CAN NOT do this with AB so far as I have seen.


And on Page 5, it says:

"If the squad is allowed to have models with upgraded weaponry (ie heavy
weapons, plasma guns, etc) then these may only be taken by ordinary squad
members, not the Sergeant."
 
That's why we tell people to read the ENTIRE Codex. I'm having the
same argument with a person on Portent...

--- In armybuilder@y..., "Christopher Beilby" <cbeilby@h...> wrote:
>
>
> > Ok, read where it says to add more, add extra, etc. But all those
do is
> add
> > addition memebers to the squad.
> > The SPACE MARINE CODEX, on page 10, middle of the page, under
SCOUT SQUAD
> > states that...
> > Options: Any model in the squad may replace their bolt pistol and
close
> > combat weapon with a sniper rifle at +5 pts, or a bolter or
shotgun at no
> > additional points cost.
> > You CAN NOT do this with AB so far as I have seen.
>
>
> And on Page 5, it says:
>
> "If the squad is allowed to have models with upgraded weaponry (ie
heavy
> weapons, plasma guns, etc) then these may only be taken by ordinary
squad
> members, not the Sergeant."
 
Hmmm, seems I had already stated that I had found that. Pointed out to me by
Jimi Tubman.

DS...


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> > Ok, read where it says to add more, add extra, etc. But all those do is
>add
> > addition memebers to the squad.
> > The SPACE MARINE CODEX, on page 10, middle of the page, under SCOUT
>SQUAD
> > states that...
> > Options: Any model in the squad may replace their bolt pistol and close
> > combat weapon with a sniper rifle at +5 pts, or a bolter or shotgun at
>no
> > additional points cost.
> > You CAN NOT do this with AB so far as I have seen.
>
>
>And on Page 5, it says:
>
>"If the squad is allowed to have models with upgraded weaponry (ie heavy
>weapons, plasma guns, etc) then these may only be taken by ordinary squad
>members, not the Sergeant."
>
>
>

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Have read the entire codex. Just didn't remember that part.

DS...


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>That's why we tell people to read the ENTIRE Codex. I'm having the
>same argument with a person on Portent...
>
>--- In armybuilder@y..., "Christopher Beilby" <cbeilby@h...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Ok, read where it says to add more, add extra, etc. But all those
>do is
> > add
> > > addition memebers to the squad.
> > > The SPACE MARINE CODEX, on page 10, middle of the page, under
>SCOUT SQUAD
> > > states that...
> > > Options: Any model in the squad may replace their bolt pistol and
>close
> > > combat weapon with a sniper rifle at +5 pts, or a bolter or
>shotgun at no
> > > additional points cost.
> > > You CAN NOT do this with AB so far as I have seen.
> >
> >
> > And on Page 5, it says:
> >
> > "If the squad is allowed to have models with upgraded weaponry (ie
>heavy
> > weapons, plasma guns, etc) then these may only be taken by ordinary
>squad
> > members, not the Sergeant."
>

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Sometimes it takes awhile for some members of the list to get updated, so
you'll usually get 5+ answers to the same question. You'll get used to it :)

Anyway, just to make sure you are looking at the right FAQ, its the 40k Army
Builder FAQ under "Help" in the toolbar of Army Builder (not the GW Faq) that
was what everyone was talking about. See ya!

Fred

In a message dated 4/28/01 7:31:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
durus_samhain@hotmail.com writes:


> Hmmm, seems I had already stated that I had found that. Pointed out to me by
> Jimi Tubman.
>
>




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That FAQ was where I looked. But didn't find the help I needed. All that the
prog would let me do was to add more members to the squad. Looking it up in
the codex (something I should have remembered actually) is what pointed me
in the right direction.

But thanks Fred and the rest of you.

DS...


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>Sometimes it takes awhile for some members of the list to get updated, so
>you'll usually get 5+ answers to the same question. You'll get used to it
>:)
>
>Anyway, just to make sure you are looking at the right FAQ, its the 40k
>Army
>Builder FAQ under "Help" in the toolbar of Army Builder (not the GW Faq)
>that
>was what everyone was talking about. See ya!
>
>Fred
>
>In a message dated 4/28/01 7:31:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>durus_samhain@hotmail.com writes:
>
>
> > Hmmm, seems I had already stated that I had found that. Pointed out to
>me by
> > Jimi Tubman.
> >
> >
>
>
>
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--- In armybuilder@y..., "Durus Samhain" <durus_samhain@h...> wrote:
> That FAQ was where I looked. But didn't find the help I needed. All
that the
> prog would let me do was to add more members to the squad. Looking
it up in
> the codex (something I should have remembered actually) is what
pointed me
> in the right direction.
>
> But thanks Fred and the rest of you.
>
> DS...
>
Can you tell this is a sore subject with everyone? It's normally not
so bad, the sniper rifle for the scout sgt. is just a touchy item. It
has sparked many arguments (hence the FAQ beginning "For 13 months
now......).

I would recommend not asking about the paired lightning claws/bike
combo....I have seen that get ugly too. :)

Overall there is fabulous info on this list and Colin is extremely
responsive to questions/suggestions on Army Builder (at least as long
as the "Real World" doesn't get to him), so don't get discouraged and
keep the questions/input flowing. It helps those of us that haven't
been around for eons (just kidding guys....really).
 
 
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