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Full Spoiler List for Saviors is published on Wizards site

Thanks for the links!

As far as I can tell, though, there are still no public links anywhere on the Wizards site that take a person to the spoiler data below. So how did you come across these links?

That question notwithstanding, I'll get the new set integrated into the Magic data files.

Thanks, Rob

At 06:01 PM 6/17/2005 -0400, you wrote:


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Rob Bowes (rob@wolflair.com)                                 (408) 927-9880
Lone Wolf Development                                      www.wolflair.com
 
Hello? Hello?

The only thing I use Card Vault for, is tracking my MtG collection. Is there any way I can help speed up the process of getting updates for sets when they are released, rather than weeks later?
 
People read it, most just don't have any answers. The guys at LWD were at Origins recently and are probably dealing with the backlog that created, as well as gearing up for GenCon Indy.
 
Here is the situation to the best of my knowledge....

In the past, we've been getting full spoiler data from Wizards for all of
their games. For Magic, this happened to be the same data that Wizards was
posting on their website. We wrote a conversion program to take the data
format provided by Wizards and generate the corresponding CV data files.
This converter has been used for a few years now.

A number of months ago, the data published on the Wizards website became
fractured into three different sets of spoiler data, each with different
pieces of the overall data we need to include in Card Vault. So we need to
get the complete spoiler data from Wizards in the original format. Lacking
that, it will literally take more than two full days to piece together the
information by hand from the fragmented and differently formatted data now
available on the Wizards site. As a tiny company with a very full plate,
that's a hefty amount of work that will put us behind on other tasks. So
our hope has been that we'd be able to get the spoiler data from Wizards,
just like before.

This entire process worked until the Saviors of Kamigawa release. With this
new release, we have encountered complete radio silence from Wizards. We've
tried contacting everyone up the chain of command, but no one has
responded. We are fully covered under a blanket NDA with Wizards, and we
have made no mistakes with releasing information prematurely that Wizards
could take umbrage with. We continue to receive the appropriate spoiler
data from other Wizards teams, but not for Magic. Needless to say, we're
just as frustrated as some of you are and we're trying to figure out how to
get through to people.

One possible explanation to all of this is a rumor we learned about in the
past few days. It seems there is a significant personnel change occurring
at the upper levels within Wizards that directly impacts Magic. If this
rumor is true, then the impact could definitely have rippled down and
affected our access to the spoiler data. Once the dust settles, we ought to
be able to resume normal operations with regards to the Magic spoiler data.
The problem is this limbo period inbetween, and we're all caught up in it.

I realize this doesn't get you the data files any faster. However, that's
the situation in which we now find ourselves. If nothing else, this
explanation will at least shed some light on what's going on. If anyone has
any direct contacts within the Magic team and can help spark a response
from Wizards for us, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Rob

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Rob Bowes (rob@wolflair.com) (408) 927-9880
Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com
 
Rob, is there a point of contact at WotC that we users could approach? Maybe if that person got a few dozen plaintive emails from frustrated CV users ... they might at least give you more information.

Have you thought about using other sources for the spoiler data? Or releasing a "0.1" data set with just the card names and rarities, etc.?
 
As a matter of fact, there is. I am happy to announce that we are in the
process of solidifying a more timely process for obtaining data for M:tG
card sets. Going forward, we will be receiving data immediately following
pre-release tournament weekend, which should give sufficient time for data
files to be prepared in time for release. We are still playing catch up
however, and expect to receive data for both Saviors and 9th Edition
extremely soon. It is our hope to get files for both sets on to the system
as soon as possible.

Thanks for bearing with us as we tighten things up with this new process.

At 05:37 PM 7/27/2005, you wrote:

>Is there *any* more information on the progress of this?
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