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End Times Rules to be Added?

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Ed, do you plan to add the new End Times/Nagash rules to the datafile? Specifically the ability to set the rules to allow 50% Lords?
 
Well I will be however, I need a good scan of the book or somebody from my local gaming group to get it and let me reivew. But short answer is yes, it will be a rules selection like treachery and mercs was
 
Got a brief look at the book tonight.. going to cause some problems with intergrating TC/VC and the new matrix of 50% Lord, 50% Hero, at least 25% Core, 50% Special, 25% Rare. I can see some issues bc the exact text is this comp replace the standard regardless if your playing Nagash so all basic games become above listed comp. So do we set datafile reflect this or do we quantify it as a roster choice on how you want to play it. I hope to hear for forum users herr on their thoughts or any thoughts for that matter :)
 
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I would think it would be a rules subset that one would have to select when first creating an army. Maybe an option for game type or special rules. I think people will want to play without the end times settings if they so choose, of course this all may be moot when 9th ed rolls out next year. Maybe 9th will use end times settings as standard army allowances. We will have to wait and see.
Would it be possible to duplicate the 8th ed files into a new batch of files and call it 8th ed End times and then just set up the allowances that way instead of having to write new code for an army option? IE a new AB datafile download that you could download for end times games only?
3 more end times scenario books coming out before 9th ed will more than likely lead to alot of overhauling of the main 8th ed files. I would think it would be easier to tinker with a separate duplicate file system then to mess with what works.
 
I think that a special rule will do like how we add remove special characters. But the book is quite frank on this replace that regardless if you are playing the nasash options. So call it 8.5ed
 
End of Times

Are you going to be adjusting the rules and percentages to match the new books or is it going to be a option to select like the other books so that players that do not own the new stuff can still use the existing rules?
 
is there a way to have the new book listed as an option so that players that do not own the book will still be able to play with the existing rules?
 
The book is not the issue, The statement is more this however here is this new cool army 'Nagash' you can play. However system wide you have a new new comp ratio that replaces the brb. So using the new book's army is not required to have the new comp. Think if it as a FAQ that changes comp to this new type and superceeds the BRB like an FAQ would. So the hard core rules layers will go, no you have to use the updated version because it says replace "x" with "y".
 
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After having read the actual language regarding comp changes from the end times nagash book I think that the main lists should be at 50% lords, heroes and maybe (maybe) include the 25% lords, heroes as an option to enable when creating lists.
So weird that they release a rules update without an errata for people who havent or wont buy the nagash book.
Cause the intrawebz is hard ya know!
 
Well got my mitts on the book too and have read it, it adds allot of new stuff all of which can be coded to enforce the rules option the user will select. However, the issue of is this the new norm or just a fad... Well enough on that rant from the other websites, you know whom and where they are, not really germane to this forum thank goodness. So I think the route I will go is create a new ruleset one that allow the Undead Legion to be selected at the new army comp values. and also at the same time allow any other army to be selected using the same updated comp values.

However now to the point the book does list several unique special characters, for other armies besides Undead Legions,
Valten, Crom and their language says can be included in a WoC army (or Empire for Valten) should I limit them to only be allowed if you are using the new ruleset or should be available to their respective armies in say a normal game of Warhammer?
 
End Times should be added as a separate rules type (adding 50% Lords/Heroes allowance).

Undead Legions is entirely different from the End Times in the book and should be added a new army for general play (not opt-in like Chaos Dwarfs in WoC). I don't know how the Tomb King and Vampire Counts units are going to be coded (whether just copy paste from both data files or from scratch) but their Undead rules must be consistent with each other, which could present some problems with the Lore of Nehekara and Lore of Vampires with all of their references.
 
Ehsteve said:
End Times should be added as a separate rules type (adding 50% Lords/Heroes allowance).

Undead Legions is entirely different from the End Times in the book and should be added a new army for general play (not opt-in like Chaos Dwarfs in WoC). I don't know how the Tomb King and Vampire Counts units are going to be coded (whether just copy paste from both data files or from scratch) but their Undead rules must be consistent with each other, which could present some problems with the Lore of Nehekara and Lore of Vampires with all of their references.
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DL 2.80 to see how the rule will change the comp values. Undead Legions are not in to allow for the 30 day embargo but it will allow others to start to build thier non-undead legion rosters using the new matrix.
 
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