I just purchased the add-on for the Lost Omens World Guide and was surprised not to see any of the options available for my PC. It took me awhile to realize that I had to go into the settings for that PC and enable the add-on. Once I did that I immediately saw that this was going to be very annoying once I have multiple characters. As currently configured, it appears that every time Hero Lab releases a new add-on, I'll need to go into every one of my characters and affirmatively add that add-on in its settings. Why? This seems so tedious and unnecessary. If I'm buying an add-on from you it's because I want to use it. It's hard for me to imagine a situation where I would buy an add-on and not want it available to each of my characters. I hope you will make this automatic, or at least offer us an option in the global settings to turn it on and off for all our characters. Thanks.
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Enable automatic selection of purchased add-ons?
- Thread starter amz1
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Lj Stephens
Ex-Staff
Hi amz1. We got feedback that not every character in every campaign should have access to everything you have purchased, depending on the GM's preferences. We have also heard the other opinion, as you've expressed it and we're considering all angles. Thanks for letting us know your stance. 
Hi amz1. We got feedback that not every character in every campaign should have access to everything you have purchased, depending on the GM's preferences. We have also heard the other opinion, as you've expressed it and we're considering all angles. Thanks for letting us know your stance.
It would be nice to have a tick-box under Options to decide which behavior is preferred, e.g. "Auto-Enable Newly Purchased Content: Y/N"
Best of both worlds that way!
Seems that behavior would most likely be a GM by GM basis. I think content should auto-enable by default, but if you are playing a character under a GM who doesn't have or allow certain content you could turn it off for that character.
Of course, the opposite could be true for you in that you mostly play under a GM who doesn't allow much content but you have that one character under a liberal GM where anything goes, but I think the first scenario is more likely.
Of course, the opposite could be true for you in that you mostly play under a GM who doesn't allow much content but you have that one character under a liberal GM where anything goes, but I think the first scenario is more likely.
Well, I really only play Pathfinder Society and it's very tedious to have to turn these check boxes on for every single character for every single source. Worse, if you forget to do it, you end up digging around trying to find some feat or item that you thought should be available but now you can't find it. It also means that when choosing options for a character you will often miss out on things that would be good choices for you simply because HLO is not showing them because you didn't check the appropriate box. I really hope that WolfLair will consider at least making this an option for those of us who want it. I was a very loyal customer of Hero Lab Classic (bought every single Pathfinder data package) but so far I'm less than overwhelmed by HLO (sorry, but it's the truth, hope it will get better as you continue to develop it) and this issue is just one more way that the implementation doesn't feel very friendly to the user.
What's being described is not the way the behavior is set up to work. New sources are set up to turn on automatically, as long as you own the package they're included in.
What I suspect may be happening is that between the time we made the update available for purchase, and the time people purchase the update, they've opened their characters - once it's opened, HL will save the state of each book, and if the source is available, but not purchased yet, it will save that that character does not use that book, and in that case, you'd need to re-open the settings for that character to turn on that book.
We did not change the way this is handled in HLO from the way it is handled in HLC.
What I suspect may be happening is that between the time we made the update available for purchase, and the time people purchase the update, they've opened their characters - once it's opened, HL will save the state of each book, and if the source is available, but not purchased yet, it will save that that character does not use that book, and in that case, you'd need to re-open the settings for that character to turn on that book.
We did not change the way this is handled in HLO from the way it is handled in HLC.
Considering we only have 1 book so far, not a huge issue BUT as you guys move forward and give us the ability to connect with our GM and other party members, could you guys PLEASE allow the GM to create "templates" for allowed content?
I may GM multiple groups with different criteria (one campaign is core only and another is kitchen sink.) And as a player I may play with other GM that allow or disallow certain books.
Ideally this "template" would be stored under an account and come with a tiny URL or code that a player can add to a character. As the template is updated the characters options are updated as well.
Please and thank you!
I may GM multiple groups with different criteria (one campaign is core only and another is kitchen sink.) And as a player I may play with other GM that allow or disallow certain books.
Ideally this "template" would be stored under an account and come with a tiny URL or code that a player can add to a character. As the template is updated the characters options are updated as well.
Please and thank you!
so it only works properly if we buy new content the minute it's released? is that intentional?
No it only works IFF you open your character between product release and product purchase. Seems like a reasonable approach to me.
Well that's helpful to know and it helps me understand why I would sometimes run into similar problems using HLC.
That said, I'm no programmer but this seems like a really unnecessary annoyance that could hopefully be easily resolved. I imagine that there are many in the same boat as me: if we are buying a product from you, we want to be able to use it, for all of our PCs. Really, the only limiter that I want (and I do appreciate this one very much) is being told when something is not PFS-legal. As you currently have it structured, it's quite possible, likely even, that we customers will buy products from you and then not even realize that we are not using them. And yes, sure, we can always go turn them on later when we realize that they have not been toggled on, but that's not much help when you have spent an hour choosing the PC's next feat by reading through all of the options (as HL shows them to you), only to later realize that you were looking at an incomplete list.
I hope that you will consider changing this to something more user-friendly. As far as I'm concerned, the perfect set-up would be: all (purchased) options on by default for all PCs, with an option to indicate (as in HLC) when an option is not PFS-legal.
Thanks for considering.
Personally, I would like them to not be on by default per character, would prefer to enable them as I go. I have a GM that doesn't allow all sources (i.e. ones he doesn't own), so I could see making choices I am not allowed to if they turn on automatically.
charlieluce
Well-known member
As a DM who already has had problems with players trying to take options that aren't being used as part of a particular campaign, I'm all in favor of having to explicitly enable new purchases on existing characters.
Lj Stephens
Ex-Staff
Thanks for the positive feedback Toblakai / charlieluce! BTW, I have sent forward the toggle button idea. So it's on the radar. Thanks!