(Drop Dead Studios) Spheres of Power: Official Support Thread

[Ualaa]

I'm getting a very similar error, with the 1.32 version.

Even removing each package (through Manage Third Party Updates), and then reinstalling the original .HL file from each zip folder, and then updating to the latest version through the updater doesn't seem to work.



My error is:

The data files could not be loaded due to errors. Hero Lab will now attempt to load them in recovery mode. Once loaded, you can access the editor as normal to correct any errors.

The following errors occurred:

Thing 'sopTlAmnes' - Condition phase/priority (First/5050) for bootstrap thing 'sopTlAmnPw' occurs after earliest rule/script (First/5000)
Thing 'sopTlCalm' - Condition phase/priority (First/5050) for bootstrap thing 'sopTlClmPw' occurs after earliest rule/script (First/5000)
Thing 'sopTlCandr' - Condition phase/priority (First/5050) for bootstrap thing 'sopTlCndPw' occurs after earliest rule/script (First/5000)
Thing 'sopTlCrbSt' - Condition phase/priority (First/5050) for bootstrap thing 'sopTlCStPw' occurs after earliest rule/script (First/5000)
Thing 'sopTlDsFoc' - Condition phase/priority (First/5050) for bootstrap thing 'sopTlDsFPw' occurs after earliest rule/script (First/5000)
Thing 'sopTlDsprs' - Condition phase/priority (First/5050) for bootstrap thing 'sopTlDspPw' occurs after earliest rule/script (First/5000)
Thing 'sopTlEstee' - Condition phase/priority (First/5050) for bootstrap thing 'sopTlEstPw' occurs after earliest rule/script (First/5000)
Thing 'sopTlGestr' - Condition phase/priority (First/5050) for bootstrap thing 'sopTlGstPw' occurs after earliest rule/script (First/5000)
Thing 'sopTlIncep' - Condition phase/priority (First/5050) for bootstrap thing 'sopTlIncPw' occurs after earliest rule/script (First/5000)
Thing 'sopTlLure' - Condition phase/priority (First/5050) for bootstrap thing 'sopTlLurPw' occurs after earliest rule/script (First/5000)
Thing 'sopTlMisdr' - Condition phase/priority (First/5050) for bootstrap thing 'sopTlMsdPw' occurs after earliest rule/script (First/5000)
Thing 'sopTlMnSpy' - Condition phase/priority (First/5050) for bootstrap thing 'sopTlMSpPw' occurs after earliest rule/script (First/5000)
Thing 'sopTlMndSh' - Condition phase/priority (First/5050) for bootstrap thing 'sopTlMShPw' occurs after earliest rule/script (First/5000)
Thing 'sopTlUtter' - Condition phase/priority (First/5050) for bootstrap thing 'sopTlUtrPw' occurs after earliest rule/script (First/5000)

 

[TheIronGolem]

Make sure ALL your handbooks are up to date with the latest versions as well. Those thingid's in particular look like they're from the Mentalist's Handbook, which was heavily affected by the issue addressed in 1.32 of Core.

 

[GreyLurker]

At least one of them was the Telekinetic book

.....but ...while you are here....hows Spheres of might coming along.

 

[Silver12]

Not sure if this is a bug or not, but possible one for Destruction Sphere.

If you have both Focused Blast and Force Blast - if you activate Force Blast, it changes the damage dice, but the bonus from Focused Blast goes away.

Per the text, Focused Blast applies when no Blast Shape is applied to the blast - Force Blast is a Blast Type, not shape, so the bonus should still apply??

Thanks!!

 

[TheIronGolem]

Not sure if this is a bug or not, but possible one for Destruction Sphere.

If you have both Focused Blast and Force Blast - if you activate Force Blast, it changes the damage dice, but the bonus from Focused Blast goes away.

Per the text, Focused Blast applies when no Blast Shape is applied to the blast - Force Blast is a Blast Type, not shape, so the bonus should still apply??

Thanks!!

That does seem wrong. Putting it on the list for 1.33.

At least one of them was the Telekinetic book

.....but ...while you are here....hows Spheres of might coming along.

Some fundamentals have been put in place, but this is going to be a very long project. Might has a LOT of moving parts and unique mechanics to implement. I'm also having to redo some things about how SoP works so that it can play nice with SoM, which will be especially important when it's time to do Champions of the Spheres.

 

[GreyLurker]

Some fundamentals have been put in place, but this is going to be a very long project. Might has a LOT of moving parts and unique mechanics to implement. I'm also having to redo some things about how SoP works so that it can play nice with SoM, which will be especially important when it's time to do Champions of the Spheres.

awesome, as you can imagine more than few folks really excited about that one. Keep up the great work

 

[TheIronGolem]

After purchasing all of the hero lab files for the SoP Handbooks today, I was unable to get 5 of them to load in hero lab, each having some variation of what looks like similar errors. (Either broken references or missing data)

The five packages in question are the Handbooks for Destruction, Diviner, Enhancement, Mentalist, and Telekinetic.

I have both Ultimate magic and the Advanced Players guide installed. I am using the 1.32 version you mention in the previous post. All other books load perfectly fine with no errors.

This is a sampling of the error messages given, there is only this one message in the case of Destruction, Telekinesis, and Enhancement. There are a great many similar messages for Divination and Mentalism:


Telekinetic - Thing 'cSoPSTlSen' - Conditon phase/priority (First/10000) for boostrap thing 'sopTiTkDnW' occurs after earliest rule/script (First/5000)

Destruction - Thing 'ioSoPEnGrp' - Conditon phase/priority (First/10000) for boostrap thing 'sopTIEnTth' occurs after earliest rule/script (First/5000)

Divination - 'pre-requisite rule' script for Thing 'sopTlAuger' calls a non-xistant procedure for the active scropt context (This occurs many times for many objects)

Enhancement - Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'pSoPEmpBlf' (Eval Script #1) on line 20 -> non-existant thing 'xxDREviCha' used by script

Mentalist - Thing 'sopTlAmnes' - Conditon phase/priority (First/5050) for boostrap thing 'sopTIAmnPw' occurs after earliest rule/script (First/5000) (This repeats many time for many objects)

This post only just now showed up due to the forum's "newbie settings", but the poster contacted me by email and we verified that updating their handbooks fixed their problem as well.

 

[Anderlorn]

I am receiving the following errors;

Thing sopTICreat - Condition phase/priority (First/1000) for bootstrap thing 'sopTICreDS occurs after earlierst rule/script (First/5000)

and many more similar to above.

I have auto updates and I don't have all of the handbooks but I should not be penalized for that.

 

[TheIronGolem]

I am receiving the following errors;

Thing sopTICreat - Condition phase/priority (First/1000) for bootstrap thing 'sopTICreDS occurs after earlierst rule/script (First/5000)

and many more similar to above.

I have auto updates and I don't have all of the handbooks but I should not be penalized for that.

What books do you currently have, and what version are they? For reference, the current versions of each of the books are listed in this post.

And to be clear, you certainly shouldn't need any particular handbook for the rest of SoP to work. I make a point of keeping dependencies minimal (and stated up-front when they are necessary), so in the unlikely event that your problem is because you "need" a handbook that you lack, I'll make sure to fix that.

 

[Anderlorn]

That is good! Thank you!

I currently don't have any of the handbooks. Maybe in time but by order of the CFO (aka the Wife), my hobby spending money has been spent ... LOL

I just have the initial release of SOP.

 

[TheIronGolem]

That is good! Thank you!

I currently don't have any of the handbooks. Maybe in time but by order of the CFO (aka the Wife), my hobby spending money has been spent ... LOL

I just have the initial release of SOP.

OK, so we just have the one book to keep track of in this case.

Let's look at something else now: In Hero Lab, go to Tools->Manage Third-Party Updates and then tell me everything that appears in the menu that it brings up.

 

[Anderlorn]

Thank you

1. SoP - Expanded Options (v1.0, 2 files)
2. SoP (v1.24, 36 files)
3. SoP - Epxanded Options (v1.7, 2 files)
4. Pathfinder Pack (1.16, 522 files)
5. PF Gestalt (v1.1, 6 files)
6. World is Square House Rules (v1.3, 2 files)

 

[EldritchWeaver]

1. SoP - Expanded Options (v1.0, 2 files)
3. SoP - Epxanded Options (v1.7, 2 files)

Not sure if 3. is a typo due to translation into this forum post, but you shouldn't have that book installed twice.

 

[TheIronGolem]

Thank you

1. SoP - Expanded Options (v1.0, 2 files)
2. SoP (v1.24, 36 files)
3. SoP - Epxanded Options (v1.7, 2 files)
4. Pathfinder Pack (1.16, 522 files)
5. PF Gestalt (v1.1, 6 files)
6. World is Square House Rules (v1.3, 2 files)

As EldritchWeaver notes, Expanded Options showing up twice is odd. I would delete the 1.0 one for sure. That's probably not the cause of this particular problem, but it may well cause other headaches for you down the road.

Your core package being at version 1.24 is definitely a problem, though. You mentioned previously that you had set up the update mechanism, so if HL isn't asking you to update SoP when you first start up the Pathfinder system, then you'll want to initiate an update manually.

Bring up the Updates menu (either using the Find Updates button when HL first starts up and asks you to pick a game system, or with the View Updates menu option at the upper right when you're in Pathfinder) and look for the Spheres of Power entry (just Spheres of Power, not Expanded Options). Click on the entry to highlight it and then press Download. It should show you the patch notes and take you through the installation process.

That will probably take care of this. If not, let me know and we'll take a look to ensure that your update source is set up correctly.

 

[Anderlorn]

Here is the updated managed 3rd party section, how does this sound?

SoP - (v1.32, 36 files)
SoP - Expanded Options (v1.7, 2 files)
PF Pack (v1.16, 522 Files)
PF Gestalt (v1.1, 6 files)
Word is Square House Rules (v1.3, 2 files)

It is working now, what I did was delete all SOP except Expanded Options, and downloaded the Core updates 1 (archived) 2, and 3 from DriveThrueRPG and installed them.

Maybe the online updates were not removing the old or wasn't with mine?

Thank you for your help!

 

[TheIronGolem]

Glad it's working now! For what it's worth, you don't need to install more than one instance of the same package; the later-named files are just newer versions. Most likely what happened was that you installed the most recent one last and that fixed it by overwriting the older ones.

 

[Ualaa]

Having two versions of a book, was my issue too.
And for some reason I didn't have the Creation book on my list.

Glad it's working for you too now.

 

[Anderlorn]

Broken Link removed for extra security and thanks again!

 

[Ualaa]

Out of curiosity, I received an email stating the Conjuration handbook is available on DriveThruRPG now...

Would the priority be the new Spheres of Power handbooks, as they're released, or the Spheres of Might files?

 

[TheIronGolem]

Out of curiosity, I received an email stating the Conjuration handbook is available on DriveThruRPG now...

Would the priority be the new Spheres of Power handbooks, as they're released, or the Spheres of Might files?

Previously, the plan had been to finish the SoP handbooks before starting on SoM. But in light of the fact that the Conjuration book contains some SoM-based content (and the Time book will have more if the current playtest is anything to go by), I am refocusing on Might now. This will also help me figure out a clean way to handle these "crossover" situations without making SoM a hard requirement for an SoP expansion or vice versa.