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(Drop Dead Studios) Spheres of Power: Official Support Thread

Ultimate Spheres of Power and Champion of the Spheres both show an update available, and when I try to update it says they're an older version than what I have.

It does allow me to update them (with the older version warning), and then they're still available as updates.

It shows 15 March 2022 as their date.

I can just Load Game, click no to the available update, and everything works fine.

At this point I just have:
- Champions of the Spheres (v 1.52, 115 files)
- Pathfinder Pack (v 1.20, 524 files)
- Pathfinder Gestalt (v 1.1, 6 files)
- Spheres of Might (v 1.15, 42 files)
- Spheres of Power (v 1.1, 75 files)

The "Manage Third-Party Updates" lists it as Spheres of Power, but within Hero Lab I have the Ultimate Spheres of Power content, and it shows that as the source for each of the feats, classes, archetypes etc.
 
bob_xxii said:
The "Drawback Feat" boon doesn't work in the UI. It has a "Add feat (1 remaining)", but when you click it an select a feat, it doesn't mark the feat in any way as a Bonus feat, so the "(1 remaning)" doesn't go down, and it consumes one of your actual feat slots.

I think it needs to have "<autotag group="Helper" tag="Free"/>" on the panel (and likely some additional tag, so only the correct feats appear in this UI), as well as some logic in a component to actually decrement resSPDBFt.resLeft somewhere.
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I'm also having problems using "Ultimate Spheres of Power" and "Spheres of Might" on my iPad... trying to install one seems to uninstall the other (presumably because they share the DDS Common files).
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Noting the bug on the boon. Reach out to me at dropdeadstudios.herolab@gmail.com and I will send you an iPad compatible version of the files: you are not the first to run into this problem :P

catman123456 said:
For the Fey Adept the Companion from Create Reality is not showing up
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Bug noted.

Life Swordsman said:
So I recently bought USoP, SoM, and CotS. Got them installed no problem and updated from the source. However, after enabling them under Configure Hero, I can't seem to find Crimson Dancer and Warden from CotS, along with several CotS archetypes, including Champion Bard, Beast Bender, and Masterwork Chronicler. I'm curious if I actually did install the Spheres packages correctly, or if I was supposed to do something like install/update them in a specific order.
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Champions of the Spheres for Hero Lab includes data files for the "Champions of the Spheres" book: the classes/archetypes you're listing comes from different books, and will become available in future HL releases.

asvaldson said:
lol funny enough, it isn't hightlighting that it needs updating. The updates are THERE. I can click and update just fine. but it isn't alerting and bolding them, at least not for me. They do work though. I appreciate your work on these for us. A couple of the bugs I looked into and the scripting made my head hurt, if I could buy you a beer I would
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Ualaa said:
Ultimate Spheres of Power and Champion of the Spheres both show an update available, and when I try to update it says they're an older version than what I have.

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I'll be checking into this more later tonight; glad to hear that they are generally behaving properly for you, asvaldson
 
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Ok Not sure if this is a fixable thing or not, but Leadership and Warleader are currently stacking for the Bonus Skill Points to Diplomacy instead of the 2nd sphere changing to a Competence Bonus.
 
I had two "Champions of the Spheres" listed in my manage third party updates, with HL.

I deleted the older version and my portfolios with anything from that book stopped working.
I re-patched the file, and as far as manage third party updates goes, nothing has changed.
But the portfolios work again.

And I no longer have the option to re-update, despite having the most recent version.
So the update (which isn't a new update) is gone, which is good.
 
Is there a way to request handbooks, Im looking for
The Conquerors Handbook
as well as the various expanded options books and the spheres apocrypha. i can make some of the simpler elements my self but dont quite know how to do some of the more complicated ones.
 
A bug report: It looks like the Giantslayer and Titan Breaker feats from SoM are missing. These feats both incorrectly have the "previously published" asterisk in the book itself, so they might have been accidentally skipped over.
 
One more bug report: The energy grapple magic item is broken, in that it's enabled when unequipped and disabled when equipped. Also, it should be named "Energy grapple" and not "Energy Grapple" for consistency with other items in HL.
 
One more bug report: The "Tricky Combo" talent in Dual Wielding doesn't appear to be a real talent - I can't find it anywhere in the SoM book or any of the other books.
 
Warstroke, I can make a note to push Conqueror's Handbook up the cue; it won't be the next release, but it'll be between Warden & Conq's HB for the next two. I'll get back to you regarding apocrypha.

Thanks for the bug reports, Roadie!
 
Hey all, I am going to start doing apocrypha bundle HL releases while continuing to work through handbooks. The plan is to put about 4 or 5 into a single data file, bundling by system first (Power/Might/Both) and by theme where possible (for example, all the alchemy focused apocrypha

WarStroke or anyone else: tell me what apocrypha you wanted to see, and that gives me a good place to start.
 
Not necessarily a bug, but the Technician is in Hero Lab, but doesn't have a book listed as the source... cannot search for Spheres of Might to find it.
I know the Inventions were previously (by IronGolem) mentioned as being an issue with the class.
It looks to be a neat class, but none of my players have ever wanted to play one, so our group at least doesn't feel like it is missing.

No real preference on anything until Spheres of Guile releases, then that would be my preference.

I really appreciate your creation of HL files for so many of these books.
I'll continue to support HL files, for as long as they're released.
 
We used the Mythic Spheres of Power and the Mythic Spheres of Might in the last campaign.

There are some inconsistencies now, as Ultimate Spheres of Power has changed some of the stuff that Mythic Spheres of Power references.

Still, they were fun to play with and would be great additions.
 
Ualaa said:
We used the Mythic Spheres of Power and the Mythic Spheres of Might in the last campaign.

There are some inconsistencies now, as Ultimate Spheres of Power has changed some of the stuff that Mythic Spheres of Power references.

Still, they were fun to play with and would be great additions.
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yeah I've noticed a little inconsistency myself, I just hate having to do characters by hand lol. My hand just doesn't write well anymore.
 
Hey question for you, and I apologize if this has already been addressed! I started getting error messages and not being able to use SoP/SoM material a while back, and I just started trying to troubleshoot it. I have tried deleting all the files (including non-spheres 3rd party updates) and reinstalling them, reinstalling the Pathfinder data file entirely, and I upgraded to USoP and deleted all the basic SoP files and handbooks to see if there was any conflict there. So far, nothing has worked. The specific error message changes occasionally, but nothing lets it load.

Currently, I have Ultimate Spheres v1.42, Spheres of Might v1.20, Champions of the Spheres v1.5, and the Pathfinder Pack v1.20. The below is my current error message. When I try deleting the Pathfinder pack, the message changes but seems to be referencing things that are in that pack (it seems to be trying to find something from the Path of War, for instance). I can try to recreate that error and post the results if it would help.

Code: 
The data files could not be loaded due to errors. Hero Lab will now attempt to load them in recovery mode. Once loaded, you can access the editor as normal to correct any errors.

The following errors occurred:

Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpBladeMagic' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpBlendTrED' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpBlendTrMA' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpBlendTrMMk' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpBlendTrMShf' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpBlendTrMSoul' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpBlendTrProd' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpBlendTrVect' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpCombatTalent' (Eval Script '#1') on line 1
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpCombatTalen2' (Eval Script '#1') on line 1
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'pre-requisite rule' script for Thing 'cChSpCraftGenBP' on line 1
  -> Tag 'Classes.SoMScholar' not defined
Syntax error in 'pre-requisite rule' script for Thing 'cChSpCraftGenCR' on line 1
  -> Tag 'Classes.SoMScholar' not defined
Syntax error in 'pre-requisite rule' script for Thing 'cChSpCraftGenCS' on line 1
  -> Tag 'Classes.SoMScholar' not defined
Syntax error in 'pre-requisite rule' script for Thing 'cChSpCraftGenCW' on line 1
  -> Tag 'Classes.SoMScholar' not defined
Syntax error in 'pre-requisite rule' script for Thing 'cChSpCraftGenCWI' on line 1
  -> Tag 'Classes.SoMScholar' not defined
Syntax error in 'pre-requisite rule' script for Thing 'cChSpCraftGenFR' on line 1
  -> Tag 'Classes.SoMScholar' not defined
Syntax error in 'bootstrap #1 condition' tag expression for Thing 'cChSpEmerStep'
  -> Tag 'Classes.SoMSent' not defined
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpExtraGadgets' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'cSoMGadgets' used by script
Syntax error in 'pre-requisite rule' script for Thing 'cChSpFocusedAssau' on line 1
  -> Tag 'HasAbility.cSoMRapidAssault' not defined
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpMentalManeuv' (Eval Script '#1') on line 4
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTBrute' used by script
Syntax error in 'pre-requisite rule' script for Thing 'cChSpSpellbreaker' on line 1
  -> Tag 'Classes.SoMArmiger' not defined
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpStyleTalent' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpTradTinker' (Eval Script '#1') on line 1
  -> Non-existent thing 'cSoMGadgets' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cfgChSpReanTrain' (Eval Script '#1') on line 2
  -> Non-existent thing 'SoMCTAdpt' used by script
Syntax error in 'pre-requisite rule' script for Thing 'fChSpUnarmMaster' on line 1
  -> Tag 'HasAbility.somTlUnarmoredTr' not defined
 
insaneblackninja said:
Hey question for you, and I apologize if this has already been addressed! I started getting error messages and not being able to use SoP/SoM material a while back, and I just started trying to troubleshoot it. I have tried deleting all the files (including non-spheres 3rd party updates) and reinstalling them, reinstalling the Pathfinder data file entirely, and I upgraded to USoP and deleted all the basic SoP files and handbooks to see if there was any conflict there. So far, nothing has worked. The specific error message changes occasionally, but nothing lets it load.

Currently, I have Ultimate Spheres v1.42, Spheres of Might v1.20, Champions of the Spheres v1.5, and the Pathfinder Pack v1.20. The below is my current error message. When I try deleting the Pathfinder pack, the message changes but seems to be referencing things that are in that pack (it seems to be trying to find something from the Path of War, for instance). I can try to recreate that error and post the results if it would help.

Code: 
The data files could not be loaded due to errors. Hero Lab will now attempt to load them in recovery mode. Once loaded, you can access the editor as normal to correct any errors.

The following errors occurred:

Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpBladeMagic' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpBlendTrED' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpBlendTrMA' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpBlendTrMMk' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpBlendTrMShf' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpBlendTrMSoul' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpBlendTrProd' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpBlendTrVect' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpCombatTalent' (Eval Script '#1') on line 1
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpCombatTalen2' (Eval Script '#1') on line 1
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'pre-requisite rule' script for Thing 'cChSpCraftGenBP' on line 1
  -> Tag 'Classes.SoMScholar' not defined
Syntax error in 'pre-requisite rule' script for Thing 'cChSpCraftGenCR' on line 1
  -> Tag 'Classes.SoMScholar' not defined
Syntax error in 'pre-requisite rule' script for Thing 'cChSpCraftGenCS' on line 1
  -> Tag 'Classes.SoMScholar' not defined
Syntax error in 'pre-requisite rule' script for Thing 'cChSpCraftGenCW' on line 1
  -> Tag 'Classes.SoMScholar' not defined
Syntax error in 'pre-requisite rule' script for Thing 'cChSpCraftGenCWI' on line 1
  -> Tag 'Classes.SoMScholar' not defined
Syntax error in 'pre-requisite rule' script for Thing 'cChSpCraftGenFR' on line 1
  -> Tag 'Classes.SoMScholar' not defined
Syntax error in 'bootstrap #1 condition' tag expression for Thing 'cChSpEmerStep'
  -> Tag 'Classes.SoMSent' not defined
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpExtraGadgets' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'cSoMGadgets' used by script
Syntax error in 'pre-requisite rule' script for Thing 'cChSpFocusedAssau' on line 1
  -> Tag 'HasAbility.cSoMRapidAssault' not defined
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpMentalManeuv' (Eval Script '#1') on line 4
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTBrute' used by script
Syntax error in 'pre-requisite rule' script for Thing 'cChSpSpellbreaker' on line 1
  -> Tag 'Classes.SoMArmiger' not defined
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpStyleTalent' (Eval Script '#1') on line 3
  -> Non-existent thing 'resSMCTGen' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cChSpTradTinker' (Eval Script '#1') on line 1
  -> Non-existent thing 'cSoMGadgets' used by script
Syntax error in 'eval' script for Thing 'cfgChSpReanTrain' (Eval Script '#1') on line 2
  -> Non-existent thing 'SoMCTAdpt' used by script
Syntax error in 'pre-requisite rule' script for Thing 'fChSpUnarmMaster' on line 1
  -> Tag 'HasAbility.somTlUnarmoredTr' not defined
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Looks like no one has responded to this message. I don't know an actual fix for this issue, though in the past when I have received similar messages I would completely delete the game system. re-create it. and reinstall the different packs seperately. I would install the Pathfinder Pack, then load up HL to ensure it works, the USoP, test and then SoM etc. I find it can be faster and less headache to just tear it all out and start from scratch instead of worrying about fixing a coding issue.
 
Delete everything sphere related and reinstall.

I think it wanted:
a) Pathfinder Pack
b) either Ultimate Spheres or Spheres of Might
c) the other, if you have both
d) Champions of the Spheres last, if you have it.

The date tag is off, and when I reinstall them it starts fine.
Then when I restart Hero Lab it tells me there is an update, but that update is the current version I have.
I can update to it, and it says there is an update.
I can do that infinite times.
But can also click No Don't Update.
And load HL and run it fine.
 
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