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Topics in this digest:

1. Does "over:" not work with ranged options?
From: "Keith" <mobo@adelphia.net>
2. Re: Does "over:" not work with ranged options?
From: "rjsoz" <rjs@inorbit.com>
3. Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option
From: "rjsoz" <rjs@inorbit.com>
4. Re: Re: Does "over:" not work with ranged options?
From: "Keith" <mobo@adelphia.net>
5. Re: Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option
From: "Keith" <mobo@adelphia.net>
6. RE: Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option
From: "Mathias Gehl" <mgehl@cox.net>
7. Warhammer 40k v3.15
From: "zanerose486" <phankins@mpowercom.com>
8. Adding WH Skirmish to AB?
From: "Okami_MyrrhIbis" <myrrhibis@yahoo.com>
9. Re: Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option
From: "Keith" <mobo@adelphia.net>
10. Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option
From: "rjsoz" <rjs@inorbit.com>
11. Re: Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option
From: "Keith" <mobo@adelphia.net>
12. Re: Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option
From: "Keith" <mobo@adelphia.net>
13. New to this forum/Kroot mercenary question
From: "beatdemskulls" <deaton171128MI@comcast.net>
14. Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option
From: "rjsoz" <rjs@inorbit.com>
15. RE: New to this forum/Kroot mercenary question
From: "Mathias Gehl" <mgehl@cox.net>
16. trat not working
From: "Keith" <mobo@adelphia.net>


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 22:00:44 -0600
From: "Keith" <mobo@adelphia.net>
Subject: Does "over:" not work with ranged options?

Does the "over:" attribute not work with ranged options?



Thanks,

Keith




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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 04:55:03 -0000
From: "rjsoz" <rjs@inorbit.com>
Subject: Re: Does "over:" not work with ranged options?

--- In armybuilder@y..., "Keith" <mobo@a...> wrote:
> Does the "over:" attribute not work with ranged options?
>

>From the help on rang: within ABCreate:

"Warning: Many other option attributes will not operate correctly if
associated with an option that also uses this attribute. In general,
this attribute should be used only with basic option attributes like
stat adjustment, although it can also be used with the "cost:single"
attribute. Use in conjunction with other attributes is not
guaranteed to work and may cause unpredictable results."

I think over: is one of those "other" attributes mentioned above :-)

Cheers,
Russell.
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Russell Sparkes, rjs@inorbit.com, http://www24.brinkster.com/rjsoz
"Experience is what you get just after you needed it" - Unknown



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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 04:58:28 -0000
From: "rjsoz" <rjs@inorbit.com>
Subject: Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option

--- In armybuilder@y..., "Keith" <mobo@a...> wrote:
> Hello, is there any way to adjust the size of a parent unit via an
option chosen on a child unit?
>
I may be wrong, but I think the best you can do is adjust the min or
max using prng:

What is the exact effect you're after?

Cheers,
Russell.
--
Russell Sparkes, rjs@inorbit.com, http://www24.brinkster.com/rjsoz
"Experience is what you get just after you needed it" - Unknown



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 07:18:02 -0600
From: "Keith" <mobo@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Does "over:" not work with ranged options?

looks like it : (


Thanks,

Keith


----- Original Message -----
From: "rjsoz" <rjs@inorbit.com>
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 10:55 PM
Subject: [AB] Re: Does "over:" not work with ranged options?


> --- In armybuilder@y..., "Keith" <mobo@a...> wrote:
> > Does the "over:" attribute not work with ranged options?
> >
>
> From the help on rang: within ABCreate:
>
> "Warning: Many other option attributes will not operate correctly if
> associated with an option that also uses this attribute. In general,
> this attribute should be used only with basic option attributes like
> stat adjustment, although it can also be used with the "cost:single"
> attribute. Use in conjunction with other attributes is not
> guaranteed to work and may cause unpredictable results."
>
> I think over: is one of those "other" attributes mentioned above :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Russell.
> --
> Russell Sparkes, rjs@inorbit.com, http://www24.brinkster.com/rjsoz
> "Experience is what you get just after you needed it" - Unknown
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 07:23:19 -0600
From: "Keith" <mobo@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option

Unit A has a unit size of 2-3. It can add unit B as a child with a range of
0-2. But, if unit B has a model count of 2 then unit A has to have a model
count of 2. In other words, both of the units together can't be more then 4
models.


Thanks,

Keith


----- Original Message -----
From: "rjsoz" <rjs@inorbit.com>
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 10:58 PM
Subject: [AB] Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option


> --- In armybuilder@y..., "Keith" <mobo@a...> wrote:
> > Hello, is there any way to adjust the size of a parent unit via an
> option chosen on a child unit?
> >
> I may be wrong, but I think the best you can do is adjust the min or
> max using prng:
>
> What is the exact effect you're after?
>
> Cheers,
> Russell.
> --
> Russell Sparkes, rjs@inorbit.com, http://www24.brinkster.com/rjsoz
> "Experience is what you get just after you needed it" - Unknown
>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 07:27:10 -0700
From: "Mathias Gehl" <mgehl@cox.net>
Subject: RE: Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option

Actually, I just realized that what I was coming up with won't work
exactly. Hopefully I've given you an idea of how you could do it though
(it's too early in the morning to work this out right now).

The way I had to do something like this is a bit clumsy, but it does
work. Your top level unit is A, with a size of 2:2, its child is also
A, unit size 0:2, and the child of that is B, size 1:2 (or 0:2 if
there's not an option that turns B on and off), and there's a coun
attribute on the B (but not on the A).

Mathias Gehl
mgehl@cox.net


-----Original Message-----
From: Keith [mailto:mobo@adelphia.net]
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 6:23 AM
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Subject: Re: [AB] Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option

Unit A has a unit size of 2-3. It can add unit B as a child with a
range of
0-2. But, if unit B has a model count of 2 then unit A has to have a
model
count of 2. In other words, both of the units together can't be more
then 4
models.


Thanks,

Keith


----- Original Message -----
From: "rjsoz" <rjs@inorbit.com>
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 10:58 PM
Subject: [AB] Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option


> --- In armybuilder@y..., "Keith" <mobo@a...> wrote:
> > Hello, is there any way to adjust the size of a parent unit via an
> option chosen on a child unit?
> >
> I may be wrong, but I think the best you can do is adjust the min or
> max using prng:
>
> What is the exact effect you're after?
>
> Cheers,
> Russell.
> --
> Russell Sparkes, rjs@inorbit.com, http://www24.brinkster.com/rjsoz
> "Experience is what you get just after you needed it" - Unknown
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 18:40:04 -0000
From: "zanerose486" <phankins@mpowercom.com>
Subject: Warhammer 40k v3.15

The Word bearers Army list is not full. It is missing alot of
selection. Is there a fix in the works?



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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 18:53:55 -0000
From: "Okami_MyrrhIbis" <myrrhibis@yahoo.com>
Subject: Adding WH Skirmish to AB?

Apologies if this has been addressed elsewhere in the threads, but
will there be a Skirmish ruleset for AB? Right now, you will always
get validation error messages when making up Skirmish warbands.

Thanks,
Sabrina



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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:15:46 -0600
From: "Keith" <mobo@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option

Mathias, thanks for the info. I'm trying to cut down on the number of child
units added as there are already a lot in this game system. I really hate
having a 3-4 page list for 1500 pts!


Thanks,

Keith


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mathias Gehl" <mgehl@cox.net>
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 8:27 AM
Subject: RE: [AB] Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option


> Actually, I just realized that what I was coming up with won't work
> exactly. Hopefully I've given you an idea of how you could do it though
> (it's too early in the morning to work this out right now).
>
> The way I had to do something like this is a bit clumsy, but it does
> work. Your top level unit is A, with a size of 2:2, its child is also
> A, unit size 0:2, and the child of that is B, size 1:2 (or 0:2 if
> there's not an option that turns B on and off), and there's a coun
> attribute on the B (but not on the A).
>
> Mathias Gehl
> mgehl@cox.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith [mailto:mobo@adelphia.net]
> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 6:23 AM
> To: armybuilder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AB] Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option
>
> Unit A has a unit size of 2-3. It can add unit B as a child with a
> range of
> 0-2. But, if unit B has a model count of 2 then unit A has to have a
> model
> count of 2. In other words, both of the units together can't be more
> then 4
> models.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Keith
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rjsoz" <rjs@inorbit.com>
> To: <armybuilder@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 10:58 PM
> Subject: [AB] Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option
>
>
> > --- In armybuilder@y..., "Keith" <mobo@a...> wrote:
> > > Hello, is there any way to adjust the size of a parent unit via an
> > option chosen on a child unit?
> > >
> > I may be wrong, but I think the best you can do is adjust the min or
> > max using prng:
> >
> > What is the exact effect you're after?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Russell.
> > --
> > Russell Sparkes, rjs@inorbit.com, http://www24.brinkster.com/rjsoz
> > "Experience is what you get just after you needed it" - Unknown
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 00:41:20 -0000
From: "rjsoz" <rjs@inorbit.com>
Subject: Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option

--- In armybuilder@y..., "Keith" <mobo@a...> wrote:
> Unit A has a unit size of 2-3. It can add unit B as a child with
a range of
> 0-2. But, if unit B has a model count of 2 then unit A has to
have a model
> count of 2. In other words, both of the units together can't be
more then 4
> models.
>
In that case, you should be able to use something like this:

An option on Unit B that sets a hidden stat MC (model count):
stat:MC=#
Another option (later in the priority) for unit B that has:
usta:MC=2
prng:max=2
This second option should reduce the parent maximum to 2 (instead of
3) but only when the model count of unit B reaches 2.

How does that sound? I haven't tested this, but I think it should
work - Let us know :-)

Cheers,
Russell.
--
Russell Sparkes, rjs@inorbit.com, http://www24.brinkster.com/rjsoz
"Experience is what you get just after you needed it" - Unknown



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 18:54:29 -0600
From: "Keith" <mobo@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option

Well, got it to work a little differently.

Here is how unit A is set up.

Options:
baShr17 ~~~>unit:baSmPt@abs=1; show:baShr171
baShr171~~~>csiz:baSmPt+1; hide; prng:max=2

That works out just right! Thanks for the tip on prng:





Thanks,

Keith


----- Original Message -----
From: "rjsoz" <rjs@inorbit.com>
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 6:41 PM
Subject: [AB] Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option


> --- In armybuilder@y..., "Keith" <mobo@a...> wrote:
> > Unit A has a unit size of 2-3. It can add unit B as a child with
> a range of
> > 0-2. But, if unit B has a model count of 2 then unit A has to
> have a model
> > count of 2. In other words, both of the units together can't be
> more then 4
> > models.
> >
> In that case, you should be able to use something like this:
>
> An option on Unit B that sets a hidden stat MC (model count):
> stat:MC=#
> Another option (later in the priority) for unit B that has:
> usta:MC=2
> prng:max=2
> This second option should reduce the parent maximum to 2 (instead of
> 3) but only when the model count of unit B reaches 2.
>
> How does that sound? I haven't tested this, but I think it should
> work - Let us know :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Russell.
> --
> Russell Sparkes, rjs@inorbit.com, http://www24.brinkster.com/rjsoz
> "Experience is what you get just after you needed it" - Unknown
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 18:43:57 -0600
From: "Keith" <mobo@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option

It will not let me save the option because of an error in the attribute
stat:MC=# Should # be a number? I've tried it as a number and it still
will not save.



Thanks,

Keith


----- Original Message -----
From: "rjsoz" <rjs@inorbit.com>
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 6:41 PM
Subject: [AB] Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option


> --- In armybuilder@y..., "Keith" <mobo@a...> wrote:
> > Unit A has a unit size of 2-3. It can add unit B as a child with
> a range of
> > 0-2. But, if unit B has a model count of 2 then unit A has to
> have a model
> > count of 2. In other words, both of the units together can't be
> more then 4
> > models.
> >
> In that case, you should be able to use something like this:
>
> An option on Unit B that sets a hidden stat MC (model count):
> stat:MC=#
> Another option (later in the priority) for unit B that has:
> usta:MC=2
> prng:max=2
> This second option should reduce the parent maximum to 2 (instead of
> 3) but only when the model count of unit B reaches 2.
>
> How does that sound? I haven't tested this, but I think it should
> work - Let us know :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Russell.
> --
> Russell Sparkes, rjs@inorbit.com, http://www24.brinkster.com/rjsoz
> "Experience is what you get just after you needed it" - Unknown
>
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 02:00:40 -0000
From: "beatdemskulls" <deaton171128MI@comcast.net>
Subject: New to this forum/Kroot mercenary question

Hello,

I am new to this forum, so please forgive me if this question has
already been addressed.

How come the Kroot mercenaries are not available to add to other
armies, such as Orks,Eldar, etc.?

Thanks



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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 04:05:58 -0000
From: "rjsoz" <rjs@inorbit.com>
Subject: Re: Adjusting Parent unit size with a child option

--- In armybuilder@y..., "Keith" <mobo@a...> wrote:
> It will not let me save the option because of an error in the
> attribute stat:MC=# Should # be a number? I've tried it as
> a number and it still will not save.

Oops :-) It should be stat:MC=(#) - sorry 'bout that!
# is a special variable equal to the current unit model count and it
is only available in an expression, which mean you need the ()...

It should work if you put a number in there... Of course, you also
need to have the MC stat defined in your .def file - I was just
using MC as an example - you can choose any variable name you like.
:-)

Cheers,
Russell.
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"Experience is what you get just after you needed it" - Unknown



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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 20:53:52 -0700
From: "Mathias Gehl" <mgehl@cox.net>
Subject: RE: New to this forum/Kroot mercenary question

You've looked in the allies dropdown box? I find them there for Orks.

BTW, the 40k files are more properly discussed on:

AB40k Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ab-40k3/

Mathias Gehl
mgehl@cox.net


-----Original Message-----
From: beatdemskulls [mailto:deaton171128MI@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 7:01 PM
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Subject: [AB] New to this forum/Kroot mercenary question

Hello,

I am new to this forum, so please forgive me if this question has
already been addressed.

How come the Kroot mercenaries are not available to add to other
armies, such as Orks,Eldar, etc.?

Thanks



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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 19:55:02 -0600
From: "Keith" <mobo@adelphia.net>
Subject: trat not working

Does trat not work on child or grandchild units?


Thanks,

Keith




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From: armybuilder@yahoogroups.com
From: "Okami_MyrrhIbis" <myrrhibis@yahoo.com>
Subject: Adding WH Skirmish to AB?

Apologies if this has been addressed elsewhere in the threads, but
will there be a Skirmish ruleset for AB? Right now, you will always
get validation error messages when making up Skirmish warbands.
--------------------------------
A whole new set of files will be needed for Skirmish. It is not a simple
change from the regular Armybuilder files. I am currently not working on it
either.

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