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There are 8 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Campaigne Force Tracker
From: John Coley <jwcoley@dsl.telocity.com>
2. Brettonian Warband
From: "Dieter Passchier" <passch@emsnet.de>
3. Re: Campaigne Force Tracker
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
4. Re: Brettonian Warband
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
5. Re: Army list limits
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
6. Re: Conflict Group Problems
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
7. Creating a New Data Definition
From: robscorch@aol.com
8. Re: Creating a New Data Definition
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
________________________________________________________________________
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 07:47:40 -0500
From: John Coley <jwcoley@dsl.telocity.com>
Subject: Campaigne Force Tracker
Hey all, does anyone know how I would go about adding the Campaigne
Force tracker option to the Space Wolf with Wolf Guard Armylist?
Thanks,
John Coley
________________________________________________________________________
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:49:09 +0200
From: "Dieter Passchier" <passch@emsnet.de>
Subject: Brettonian Warband
Hello!
Colin, will you add the Brettonian Warband from Towncryer #8?
Thanks,
Dieter
-----Original Message-----
From: John Coley [mailto:jwcoley@dsl.telocity.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 2:48 PM
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Subject: [AB] Campaigne Force Tracker
Hey all, does anyone know how I would go about adding the Campaigne
Force tracker option to the Space Wolf with Wolf Guard Armylist?
Thanks,
John Coley
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:18:43 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Campaigne Force Tracker
One fine day in the middle of the night, John Coley
<jwcoley@dsl.telocity.com> got up to write:
>Hey all, does anyone know how I would go about adding the Campaigne
>Force tracker option to the Space Wolf with Wolf Guard Armylist?
I think I've added it already. If not, it'll be in the next version.
Bad Colen! Naughty Colen! * whack
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:21:36 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Brettonian Warband
One fine day in the middle of the night, Dieter Passchier
<passch@emsnet.de> got up to write:
>Hello!
>
>Colin, will you add the Brettonian Warband from Towncryer #8?
As soon as I pick up a copy of town cryer 8 (tomorrow).
You'll have to excuse the lack of Mordheim updates; there was nothing
seriously wrong with the files, and I've been in the middle of doing 11
different things, all of them annoying, for the past month or so.
The next Mordheim update will probably be the last ever ...
... until AB2 is released
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:57:53 -0700
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Army list limits
Sorry for being offline for a few days. I've been buried with all the
details for the upcoming V2.0 release.
There is no way to enforce a minimum or maximum roster size from the data
files. Usually, enforcing a minimum is rarely a problem, since most gamers
are going to try and squeeze every point they can out of an army list.
For the maximum, just check the validation report at the bottom of the
roster. At the top of the roster, it will clearly say XXX points army -
make sure it's the proper value. Then, if the army list goes over that
point cap, a validation message will be generated by AB, so everything you
need should be in the validation messages.
Thanks, Rob
At 04:29 PM 6/14/00 +0000, you wrote:
>Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't find a place to set a min or
>a max total point value for a whole army list. I'm doing an
>augmentation file and would like the min & max to apply only when in
>the mode I'm using in the augmentation file.
>
>Is there a way to do this?
>
>Debbie
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Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 6
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:04:26 -0700
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Conflict Group Problems
At 10:40 PM 6/14/00 +0100, you wrote:
>One fine day in the middle of the night, Debbie Hunton
><hunton@hotmail.com> got up to write:
>
> >> >OK... I have created new mount options and chosen the Mnt conflict
> >> >group for them. I have also created an option for flaming ammunition
> >> >that is not available to mounted troups, so I put that option in the
> >> >conflict group Mnt to make it unavailable if a unit has chosen a
> >> >mount option.
> >> >
> >> >The flaming ammunition option becomes available if a unit choses a
> >> >bow, longbow or shortbow. So...
> >> >
> >> >This works: If the BOW is chosen first (the flaming option appears,
> >> >but if a mount is then chosen, it becomes unavailable)
> >> >
> >> >This doesn't work: If the MOUNT is chosen first (then when the bow
> >> >is chosen, the flaming option still appears)
> >> >
> >> >Is there any way to fix this?
> >>
> >>Are you using more: to add the flaming ammo option?
> >
> >Yes, I've done an augment on longbow, shortbow, normbow, etc. options which
> >are normally available through the .wfb files.
>
>It might be a problem with more: not liking conflict groups, then. Try
>temporarily linking the flaming ammo option to a unit, and just show:ing
>it; does that give a different result?
This is due to some problems with how option chaining is handled in V1.4.
When chaining of options that trigger actions on each other is used, AB can
get itself confused. This has been overhauled and works quite well now in
V2.0, but it's a problem in V1.4. :-(
Please note that using "show" on an option that is chained via "more"
simply won't work. "show" will only work on options that are attached
directly to the unit.
I recommend "living with" this issue for the time-being. This issue CAN be
worked around, but the amount of effort will be quite high. With V2.0
coming out next month, I recommend not investing all that work only to have
it be good for a few weeks.
Hope this helps,
Rob
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Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 7
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 02:31:28 -0000
From: robscorch@aol.com
Subject: Creating a New Data Definition
Ok, I am just starting to use this wonderful piece of soft ware, but
I can't seem to find a way of changing the datadef for some of my way
older gaming systems such as Rogue Trader (40k first edition). Is
there a way to change the stat lines to fit my needs, or does this
require a rewrite of some source code. If so what is the language
used to create Armybuilder.
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 8
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:41:28 -0700
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Creating a New Data Definition
Changing the definition file is handling through the tool ABDef (and
possibly ABUndef). Full details on how to use these tools, as well as all
the gory details of the definition file contents, can be found in the
Construction Kit User Manual. It is installed with the Construction Kit,
which can be downloaded from the web-site (go to the Additional Downloads
page).
Mucking with definition files is a somewhat daunting task for many, so
brace yourself for some learning curve. Also, be very careful when mucking
with the definition file, since changes to the definition file can easily
make the data files invalid. Definition files are intended to be (mostly)
written first and then the data files written on top of them. If you plan
to preserve the existing 40K files, you will likely have major problems
effecting changes to the definition files. You will liklye be best off if
you plan to write your data files from scratch, but that's also a heck of a
lot of work. This isn't intended to scare you off (although it might).
Rather, this is just to make sure you brace yourself for the effort ahead.
If you run into questions about how best to solve things within AB, some of
us on this forum will do our best to point you in the right direction. All
we require is two things. First, that you don't assume we know the rules to
the game, which means that you provide us with details on the particular
game mechanic you are trying to solve. Second, that you do your best to
lookup answers yourself before asking. We enjoy thought-provoking problems
to tackle, but we hate answering questions that are clearly answered in the
docs.
Hope this helps,
Rob
At 02:31 AM 6/16/00 +0000, you wrote:
>Ok, I am just starting to use this wonderful piece of soft ware, but
>I can't seem to find a way of changing the datadef for some of my way
>older gaming systems such as Rogue Trader (40k first edition). Is
>there a way to change the stat lines to fit my needs, or does this
>require a rewrite of some source code. If so what is the language
>used to create Armybuilder.
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Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com
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There are 8 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Campaigne Force Tracker
From: John Coley <jwcoley@dsl.telocity.com>
2. Brettonian Warband
From: "Dieter Passchier" <passch@emsnet.de>
3. Re: Campaigne Force Tracker
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
4. Re: Brettonian Warband
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
5. Re: Army list limits
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
6. Re: Conflict Group Problems
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
7. Creating a New Data Definition
From: robscorch@aol.com
8. Re: Creating a New Data Definition
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 1
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 07:47:40 -0500
From: John Coley <jwcoley@dsl.telocity.com>
Subject: Campaigne Force Tracker
Hey all, does anyone know how I would go about adding the Campaigne
Force tracker option to the Space Wolf with Wolf Guard Armylist?
Thanks,
John Coley
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 2
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:49:09 +0200
From: "Dieter Passchier" <passch@emsnet.de>
Subject: Brettonian Warband
Hello!
Colin, will you add the Brettonian Warband from Towncryer #8?
Thanks,
Dieter
-----Original Message-----
From: John Coley [mailto:jwcoley@dsl.telocity.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 2:48 PM
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Subject: [AB] Campaigne Force Tracker
Hey all, does anyone know how I would go about adding the Campaigne
Force tracker option to the Space Wolf with Wolf Guard Armylist?
Thanks,
John Coley
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:18:43 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Campaigne Force Tracker
One fine day in the middle of the night, John Coley
<jwcoley@dsl.telocity.com> got up to write:
>Hey all, does anyone know how I would go about adding the Campaigne
>Force tracker option to the Space Wolf with Wolf Guard Armylist?
I think I've added it already. If not, it'll be in the next version.
Bad Colen! Naughty Colen! * whack
--
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Email: demandred@skrill.org | Visit http://www.skrill.org/ today!
-----------------------------+------------------------------------
"Dovie'andi se tovya sagain" - Robert Jordan's Wheel Of Time
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 4
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:21:36 +0100
From: 'Not Colin' McAlister & The Skrills <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Brettonian Warband
One fine day in the middle of the night, Dieter Passchier
<passch@emsnet.de> got up to write:
>Hello!
>
>Colin, will you add the Brettonian Warband from Towncryer #8?
As soon as I pick up a copy of town cryer 8 (tomorrow).
You'll have to excuse the lack of Mordheim updates; there was nothing
seriously wrong with the files, and I've been in the middle of doing 11
different things, all of them annoying, for the past month or so.
The next Mordheim update will probably be the last ever ...
... until AB2 is released
--
'Not Colin' McAlister | License to Skrill
Email: demandred@skrill.org | Visit http://www.skrill.org/ today!
-----------------------------+------------------------------------
"Dovie'andi se tovya sagain" - Robert Jordan's Wheel Of Time
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 5
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:57:53 -0700
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Army list limits
Sorry for being offline for a few days. I've been buried with all the
details for the upcoming V2.0 release.
There is no way to enforce a minimum or maximum roster size from the data
files. Usually, enforcing a minimum is rarely a problem, since most gamers
are going to try and squeeze every point they can out of an army list.
For the maximum, just check the validation report at the bottom of the
roster. At the top of the roster, it will clearly say XXX points army -
make sure it's the proper value. Then, if the army list goes over that
point cap, a validation message will be generated by AB, so everything you
need should be in the validation messages.
Thanks, Rob
At 04:29 PM 6/14/00 +0000, you wrote:
>Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't find a place to set a min or
>a max total point value for a whole army list. I'm doing an
>augmentation file and would like the min & max to apply only when in
>the mode I'm using in the augmentation file.
>
>Is there a way to do this?
>
>Debbie
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rob Bowes (rob@wolflair.com) (650) 726-9689
Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 6
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:04:26 -0700
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Conflict Group Problems
At 10:40 PM 6/14/00 +0100, you wrote:
>One fine day in the middle of the night, Debbie Hunton
><hunton@hotmail.com> got up to write:
>
> >> >OK... I have created new mount options and chosen the Mnt conflict
> >> >group for them. I have also created an option for flaming ammunition
> >> >that is not available to mounted troups, so I put that option in the
> >> >conflict group Mnt to make it unavailable if a unit has chosen a
> >> >mount option.
> >> >
> >> >The flaming ammunition option becomes available if a unit choses a
> >> >bow, longbow or shortbow. So...
> >> >
> >> >This works: If the BOW is chosen first (the flaming option appears,
> >> >but if a mount is then chosen, it becomes unavailable)
> >> >
> >> >This doesn't work: If the MOUNT is chosen first (then when the bow
> >> >is chosen, the flaming option still appears)
> >> >
> >> >Is there any way to fix this?
> >>
> >>Are you using more: to add the flaming ammo option?
> >
> >Yes, I've done an augment on longbow, shortbow, normbow, etc. options which
> >are normally available through the .wfb files.
>
>It might be a problem with more: not liking conflict groups, then. Try
>temporarily linking the flaming ammo option to a unit, and just show:ing
>it; does that give a different result?
This is due to some problems with how option chaining is handled in V1.4.
When chaining of options that trigger actions on each other is used, AB can
get itself confused. This has been overhauled and works quite well now in
V2.0, but it's a problem in V1.4. :-(
Please note that using "show" on an option that is chained via "more"
simply won't work. "show" will only work on options that are attached
directly to the unit.
I recommend "living with" this issue for the time-being. This issue CAN be
worked around, but the amount of effort will be quite high. With V2.0
coming out next month, I recommend not investing all that work only to have
it be good for a few weeks.
Hope this helps,
Rob
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rob Bowes (rob@wolflair.com) (650) 726-9689
Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 7
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 02:31:28 -0000
From: robscorch@aol.com
Subject: Creating a New Data Definition
Ok, I am just starting to use this wonderful piece of soft ware, but
I can't seem to find a way of changing the datadef for some of my way
older gaming systems such as Rogue Trader (40k first edition). Is
there a way to change the stat lines to fit my needs, or does this
require a rewrite of some source code. If so what is the language
used to create Armybuilder.
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 8
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:41:28 -0700
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Creating a New Data Definition
Changing the definition file is handling through the tool ABDef (and
possibly ABUndef). Full details on how to use these tools, as well as all
the gory details of the definition file contents, can be found in the
Construction Kit User Manual. It is installed with the Construction Kit,
which can be downloaded from the web-site (go to the Additional Downloads
page).
Mucking with definition files is a somewhat daunting task for many, so
brace yourself for some learning curve. Also, be very careful when mucking
with the definition file, since changes to the definition file can easily
make the data files invalid. Definition files are intended to be (mostly)
written first and then the data files written on top of them. If you plan
to preserve the existing 40K files, you will likely have major problems
effecting changes to the definition files. You will liklye be best off if
you plan to write your data files from scratch, but that's also a heck of a
lot of work. This isn't intended to scare you off (although it might).
Rather, this is just to make sure you brace yourself for the effort ahead.
If you run into questions about how best to solve things within AB, some of
us on this forum will do our best to point you in the right direction. All
we require is two things. First, that you don't assume we know the rules to
the game, which means that you provide us with details on the particular
game mechanic you are trying to solve. Second, that you do your best to
lookup answers yourself before asking. We enjoy thought-provoking problems
to tackle, but we hate answering questions that are clearly answered in the
docs.
Hope this helps,
Rob
At 02:31 AM 6/16/00 +0000, you wrote:
>Ok, I am just starting to use this wonderful piece of soft ware, but
>I can't seem to find a way of changing the datadef for some of my way
>older gaming systems such as Rogue Trader (40k first edition). Is
>there a way to change the stat lines to fit my needs, or does this
>require a rewrite of some source code. If so what is the language
>used to create Armybuilder.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rob Bowes (rob@wolflair.com) (650) 726-9689
Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________