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There are 10 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Gear Krieg AB Files
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
2. Re: Gear Krieg AB Files
From: khrk2012@yahoo.com
3. Re: WH40k2 Files
From: doublenot7@aol.com
4. [40K] Catachan units in IG armies
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
5. RE: [40K] Catachan units in IG armies
From: "DiPonio" <DiPonio@voyager.net>
6. Re: WH40k2 Files
From: Voidhammer <voidhammer@yahoo.com>
7. Re: WH40k2 Files
From: doublenot7@aol.com
8. Re: WH40k2 Files
From: doublenot7@aol.com
9. Re: WH40k2 Files
From: Voidhammer <voidhammer@yahoo.com>
10. Re: [40K] Catachan units in IG armies
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 1
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 04:20:32 -0700
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Gear Krieg AB Files
I believe that I have everything in the Companion implemented. I have been
iterating with some of the writers at DP9 on the files, so they should be
pretty complete. And hopefully pretty accurate.
I hope to get final
"approval" from DP9 shortly on how everything is being handled. Once that
happens, all the data entry can be finished and the files can be released.
My guess is that it will be September or October when the files are
officially released.
One thing that I have done nothing about is your reference to MUs versus
15mm support. Please clarify what you are referring to here. I also am not
familiar with your reference to Lend Lease, so an explanation would be helpful.
After reviewing the files you sent me, I have done things a bit differently
from the approach you took. In a number of cases, I think that the methods
I'm using require a bit less data entry (e.g. using "smap" instead of
"attr" everywhere and lots of inheritance). I can send you the current
files I'm working on to take a look at if you'd like (but they are NOT for
distribution). Perhaps some of the "shortcuts" I'm using will prove useful
to you when working on data files for future game systems (which I greatly
appreciate!).
One other option is if you are interested in taking over ownership of the
GK files. As soon as DP9 gives their blessings to the overall structure of
the files, they will need to be fleshed out and then further evolved as new
supplements are released. Perhaps I can hook you up directly with DP9 and
you can get the supplement materials in advance to work on (instead of me).
Let me know if this is of interest to you (via private email) and we can
explore this further.
Thanks, Rob
At 04:22 AM 8/13/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>--- In armybuilder@y..., Rob Bowes <rob@w...> wrote:
>I have included the artillary barrages, Lend lease, heros, Mine
>fields, etc. Also thanks to some tips from you and others I have
>improved them.
>
>However I plan on stopping my construction as you are working on
>them. And as you stated no sense in both of us doing this.
>
>However I was wondering does your files support 15mm or is all the
>ranges in MU's? If so could you make it so you can change the rules
>set and just show the 15mm ranges? (the scale of DP9's models for GK)
>Is yours chosable by the year of the war? If so, do you go a couple
>of years before the war for a what if France woould have marched into
>the Rhineland when Germany remillitarized it?
>
>Just questions of what I had had planed, but now abbandon in
>deffrence to the files you are making.
>
>Especially that 15mm ranges and movement- many people wanted it
>listed as this and NOT in MU's. I think it should be either chosable
>by the user.
>
>Also any idea when they may be released? I can just use mine but
>others I know are anxious!
>
>Well with these being defered to you I will start another game and
>develop some files for.
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 13:10:28 -0000
From: khrk2012@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Gear Krieg AB Files
I KNEW your files would be complete. You are not the kind of person
to leave anything half done.
When I refered to Lend lease - I dont think it specifically states
it , except in the fluff and real histrory, But making a vast
majority of USA vehicles usable by the other allied nations.
DP9 was great when they designed this game. They made the game usable
in varius scales. from micro-armor to 1/48 scale. They did this by
putting all ranges and speed of movement in what they call: Movement
Units, (MU's).
DP9's models are scaled in 15mm a popular WWII scale.(They actually
asked their customers what scale they wanted ! And made that their
minuatures scale!)
For example 1 MU in 15mm= 2" (tactical scale). 1 MU in 15mm = 4"
(Skirmish scale).
So in the rule book everthing is written as MU's and then you convert
to the appropriate scale you are using- terrffic idea so you can use
your mini's. But kind of a pain also having to alwas convert the
MU's, this is where Army Builder would be great cause it could just
do all the conversions to the appropriate scale MU's.
If you like you could e-mail me the NON_DISTRIBUTION file, or not as
you like. I would like to see them, as you are correct all the
already done files have great examples.
Dean
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Bowes
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: [AB] Gear Krieg AB Files
I believe that I have everything in the Companion implemented. I have
been
iterating with some of the writers at DP9 on the files, so they
should be
pretty complete. And hopefully pretty accurate.
I hope to get
final
"approval" from DP9 shortly on how everything is being handled. Once
that
happens, all the data entry can be finished and the files can be
released.
My guess is that it will be September or October when the files are
officially released.
One thing that I have done nothing about is your reference to MUs
versus
15mm support. Please clarify what you are referring to here. I also
am not
familiar with your reference to Lend Lease, so an explanation would
be helpful.
After reviewing the files you sent me, I have done things a bit
differently
from the approach you took. In a number of cases, I think that the
methods
I'm using require a bit less data entry (e.g. using "smap" instead of
"attr" everywhere and lots of inheritance). I can send you the
current
files I'm working on to take a look at if you'd like (but they are
NOT for
distribution). Perhaps some of the "shortcuts" I'm using will prove
useful
to you when working on data files for future game systems (which I
greatly
appreciate!).
One other option is if you are interested in taking over ownership of
the
GK files. As soon as DP9 gives their blessings to the overall
structure of
the files, they will need to be fleshed out and then further evolved
as new
supplements are released. Perhaps I can hook you up directly with DP9
and
you can get the supplement materials in advance to work on (instead
of me).
Let me know if this is of interest to you (via private email) and we
can
explore this further.
Thanks, Rob
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 3
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:36:48 EDT
From: doublenot7@aol.com
Subject: Re: WH40k2 Files
There are 40K2 data files available at the egroups site for AB. I believe
they work with 1.4 but you really should upgrade <A HREF="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ab-files/files/">Yahoo! Groups : ab-files
Files</A> !
Darren
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:33:39 -0700
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
Subject: [40K] Catachan units in IG armies
Colen,
Using datafiles 2.30 I noticed the following issue with Imperial Guard.
Codex: Catachan says, "Catachan Command platoons may include 0-2 Assault
teams..."
Also it says, "Some Catachan units can be upgraded to Deathworld Veterans."
Also, "Any Catachan unit or character may be upgraded to a Deathworld
Veteran..."
I take this as meaning the IG army can take units as Catachan's. (If you
used Valahallan models, they'd be Valahallans). These Catachan units >may<
be upgraded to Deathworld Veterans.
With that said, the 2.30 datafile won't allow any Assault teams unless the
'Commander' is upgraded to Deathworld Veterans. The only requirement in the
codex is that they are Catachan's, not Deathworld Veterans. (I read this as
you should be using 'Catachan' models for the command platoon and not
another type (cadians, valahallans, etc.)
If I am wrong, please let me know otherwise it'd be great to fix this in
future datafiles. (a simple "catachan" check box would be enough or just let
it go unrestricted).
As always, thanks for all your hard work with programming the datafiles.
-Shawn
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 5
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:54:00 -0400
From: "DiPonio" <DiPonio@voyager.net>
Subject: RE: [40K] Catachan units in IG armies
-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn Campbell [mailto:shawn@electricstitch.com]
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 12:34 PM
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Subject: [AB] [40K] Catachan units in IG armies
Colen,
Using datafiles 2.30 I noticed the following issue with Imperial Guard.
Codex: Catachan says, "Catachan Command platoons may include 0-2 Assault
teams..."
Also it says, "Some Catachan units can be upgraded to Deathworld Veterans."
Also, "Any Catachan unit or character may be upgraded to a Deathworld
Veteran..."
I take this as meaning the IG army can take units as Catachan's. (If you
used Valahallan models, they'd be Valahallans). These Catachan units >may<
be upgraded to Deathworld Veterans.
With that said, the 2.30 datafile won't allow any Assault teams unless the
'Commander' is upgraded to Deathworld Veterans. The only requirement in the
codex is that they are Catachan's, not Deathworld Veterans. (I read this as
you should be using 'Catachan' models for the command platoon and not
another type (cadians, valahallans, etc.)
The model is not what counts, it is the codex from which you use the rules.
Simply using a catachan model for your commander in your normal IG army,
does not mean that you are allowed to take units of Catachans. However, if
you are saying that the book simply states that the models must be a
catachan model, then the 'catachan' units that you take also must just be
the model and you should continue to use the normal rules for the IG. Just
use the models. =]
Hope that helps.
TP
If I am wrong, please let me know otherwise it'd be great to fix this in
future datafiles. (a simple "catachan" check box would be enough or just let
it go unrestricted).
As always, thanks for all your hard work with programming the datafiles.
-Shawn
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:43:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Voidhammer <voidhammer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: WH40k2 Files
I believe I wrote those files right before the upgrade
to 2.0 so they should still be viable for him. Isn't
2.0 a free upgrade for existing 1.4 users?
--Voidhammer
--- doublenot7@aol.com wrote:
> There are 40K2 data files available at the egroups
> site for AB. I believe
> they work with 1.4 but you really should upgrade <A
>
HREF="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ab-files/files/">Yahoo!
> Groups : ab-files
> Files</A> !
>
> Darren
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:29:29 EDT
From: doublenot7@aol.com
Subject: Re: WH40k2 Files
Yes, they are all free upgrades, I think.....but then again I bought the
cdrom to avoid this stuff
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:30:21 EDT
From: doublenot7@aol.com
Subject: Re: WH40k2 Files
BTW Voidhammer, you did a kick-ass job on those 40K2 files. Now how about
the Rogue Trader ones? LOL
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:45:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Voidhammer <voidhammer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: WH40k2 Files
Thanks, my first try at writing files and I take on
the 2nd edition system (I'm a nut). Still have to get
Deamon World, Genestealer Cult, and Sisters written
for those files, if I ever get a lot of time . . .
No RT files, I'd have to have all the books
Plus,
the time involved would be quite substantial (the 2nd
files took about 6 months).
--VH
--- doublenot7@aol.com wrote:
> BTW Voidhammer, you did a kick-ass job on those 40K2
> files. Now how about
> the Rogue Trader ones? LOL
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:11:07 -0700
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
Subject: Re: [40K] Catachan units in IG armies
From: "DiPonio" <DiPonio@voyager.net>
> The model is not what counts, it is the codex from which you use the
rules.
You'd have to read Codex: Catachans.
> Simply using a catachan model for your commander in your normal IG army,
> does not mean that you are allowed to take units of Catachans.
The Catachan Codex specifically has rules for taking Catachan units in a
normal IG army. Any unit can be made into a Catachan unit for free. The
Catachan unit may be upgraded to Deathworld Veterans for +3 pts.
> However, if
> you are saying that the book simply states that the models must be a
> catachan model,
It doesn't say that you have to use "Catachan" models, but I couldn't think
of any other way of "modeling" the fact that they are Catachans other than
using Catachan models
> then the 'catachan' units that you take also must just be
> the model and you should continue to use the normal rules for the IG.
A "Catachan" Command Platoon is allowed to take 0-2 Assault Teams from
Codex: Catachans. The Datafiles only allow the 0-2 assault teams if you
upgrade the "Catachan" command platoon to a "Deathworld Veteran" command
platoon. According to the Codex, they only have to be "Catachan" and not
"Deathworld Veterans."
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There are 10 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Gear Krieg AB Files
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
2. Re: Gear Krieg AB Files
From: khrk2012@yahoo.com
3. Re: WH40k2 Files
From: doublenot7@aol.com
4. [40K] Catachan units in IG armies
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
5. RE: [40K] Catachan units in IG armies
From: "DiPonio" <DiPonio@voyager.net>
6. Re: WH40k2 Files
From: Voidhammer <voidhammer@yahoo.com>
7. Re: WH40k2 Files
From: doublenot7@aol.com
8. Re: WH40k2 Files
From: doublenot7@aol.com
9. Re: WH40k2 Files
From: Voidhammer <voidhammer@yahoo.com>
10. Re: [40K] Catachan units in IG armies
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 1
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 04:20:32 -0700
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Gear Krieg AB Files
I believe that I have everything in the Companion implemented. I have been
iterating with some of the writers at DP9 on the files, so they should be
pretty complete. And hopefully pretty accurate.

"approval" from DP9 shortly on how everything is being handled. Once that
happens, all the data entry can be finished and the files can be released.
My guess is that it will be September or October when the files are
officially released.
One thing that I have done nothing about is your reference to MUs versus
15mm support. Please clarify what you are referring to here. I also am not
familiar with your reference to Lend Lease, so an explanation would be helpful.
After reviewing the files you sent me, I have done things a bit differently
from the approach you took. In a number of cases, I think that the methods
I'm using require a bit less data entry (e.g. using "smap" instead of
"attr" everywhere and lots of inheritance). I can send you the current
files I'm working on to take a look at if you'd like (but they are NOT for
distribution). Perhaps some of the "shortcuts" I'm using will prove useful
to you when working on data files for future game systems (which I greatly
appreciate!).
One other option is if you are interested in taking over ownership of the
GK files. As soon as DP9 gives their blessings to the overall structure of
the files, they will need to be fleshed out and then further evolved as new
supplements are released. Perhaps I can hook you up directly with DP9 and
you can get the supplement materials in advance to work on (instead of me).
Let me know if this is of interest to you (via private email) and we can
explore this further.
Thanks, Rob
At 04:22 AM 8/13/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>--- In armybuilder@y..., Rob Bowes <rob@w...> wrote:
>I have included the artillary barrages, Lend lease, heros, Mine
>fields, etc. Also thanks to some tips from you and others I have
>improved them.
>
>However I plan on stopping my construction as you are working on
>them. And as you stated no sense in both of us doing this.
>
>However I was wondering does your files support 15mm or is all the
>ranges in MU's? If so could you make it so you can change the rules
>set and just show the 15mm ranges? (the scale of DP9's models for GK)
>Is yours chosable by the year of the war? If so, do you go a couple
>of years before the war for a what if France woould have marched into
>the Rhineland when Germany remillitarized it?
>
>Just questions of what I had had planed, but now abbandon in
>deffrence to the files you are making.
>
>Especially that 15mm ranges and movement- many people wanted it
>listed as this and NOT in MU's. I think it should be either chosable
>by the user.
>
>Also any idea when they may be released? I can just use mine but
>others I know are anxious!
>
>Well with these being defered to you I will start another game and
>develop some files for.
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 13:10:28 -0000
From: khrk2012@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Gear Krieg AB Files
I KNEW your files would be complete. You are not the kind of person
to leave anything half done.

When I refered to Lend lease - I dont think it specifically states
it , except in the fluff and real histrory, But making a vast
majority of USA vehicles usable by the other allied nations.
DP9 was great when they designed this game. They made the game usable
in varius scales. from micro-armor to 1/48 scale. They did this by
putting all ranges and speed of movement in what they call: Movement
Units, (MU's).
DP9's models are scaled in 15mm a popular WWII scale.(They actually
asked their customers what scale they wanted ! And made that their
minuatures scale!)
For example 1 MU in 15mm= 2" (tactical scale). 1 MU in 15mm = 4"
(Skirmish scale).
So in the rule book everthing is written as MU's and then you convert
to the appropriate scale you are using- terrffic idea so you can use
your mini's. But kind of a pain also having to alwas convert the
MU's, this is where Army Builder would be great cause it could just
do all the conversions to the appropriate scale MU's.
If you like you could e-mail me the NON_DISTRIBUTION file, or not as
you like. I would like to see them, as you are correct all the
already done files have great examples.
Dean
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Bowes
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: [AB] Gear Krieg AB Files
I believe that I have everything in the Companion implemented. I have
been
iterating with some of the writers at DP9 on the files, so they
should be
pretty complete. And hopefully pretty accurate.

final
"approval" from DP9 shortly on how everything is being handled. Once
that
happens, all the data entry can be finished and the files can be
released.
My guess is that it will be September or October when the files are
officially released.
One thing that I have done nothing about is your reference to MUs
versus
15mm support. Please clarify what you are referring to here. I also
am not
familiar with your reference to Lend Lease, so an explanation would
be helpful.
After reviewing the files you sent me, I have done things a bit
differently
from the approach you took. In a number of cases, I think that the
methods
I'm using require a bit less data entry (e.g. using "smap" instead of
"attr" everywhere and lots of inheritance). I can send you the
current
files I'm working on to take a look at if you'd like (but they are
NOT for
distribution). Perhaps some of the "shortcuts" I'm using will prove
useful
to you when working on data files for future game systems (which I
greatly
appreciate!).
One other option is if you are interested in taking over ownership of
the
GK files. As soon as DP9 gives their blessings to the overall
structure of
the files, they will need to be fleshed out and then further evolved
as new
supplements are released. Perhaps I can hook you up directly with DP9
and
you can get the supplement materials in advance to work on (instead
of me).
Let me know if this is of interest to you (via private email) and we
can
explore this further.
Thanks, Rob
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 3
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:36:48 EDT
From: doublenot7@aol.com
Subject: Re: WH40k2 Files
There are 40K2 data files available at the egroups site for AB. I believe
they work with 1.4 but you really should upgrade <A HREF="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ab-files/files/">Yahoo! Groups : ab-files
Files</A> !
Darren
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 4
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:33:39 -0700
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
Subject: [40K] Catachan units in IG armies
Colen,
Using datafiles 2.30 I noticed the following issue with Imperial Guard.
Codex: Catachan says, "Catachan Command platoons may include 0-2 Assault
teams..."
Also it says, "Some Catachan units can be upgraded to Deathworld Veterans."
Also, "Any Catachan unit or character may be upgraded to a Deathworld
Veteran..."
I take this as meaning the IG army can take units as Catachan's. (If you
used Valahallan models, they'd be Valahallans). These Catachan units >may<
be upgraded to Deathworld Veterans.
With that said, the 2.30 datafile won't allow any Assault teams unless the
'Commander' is upgraded to Deathworld Veterans. The only requirement in the
codex is that they are Catachan's, not Deathworld Veterans. (I read this as
you should be using 'Catachan' models for the command platoon and not
another type (cadians, valahallans, etc.)
If I am wrong, please let me know otherwise it'd be great to fix this in
future datafiles. (a simple "catachan" check box would be enough or just let
it go unrestricted).
As always, thanks for all your hard work with programming the datafiles.
-Shawn
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
Message: 5
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:54:00 -0400
From: "DiPonio" <DiPonio@voyager.net>
Subject: RE: [40K] Catachan units in IG armies
-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn Campbell [mailto:shawn@electricstitch.com]
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 12:34 PM
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Subject: [AB] [40K] Catachan units in IG armies
Colen,
Using datafiles 2.30 I noticed the following issue with Imperial Guard.
Codex: Catachan says, "Catachan Command platoons may include 0-2 Assault
teams..."
Also it says, "Some Catachan units can be upgraded to Deathworld Veterans."
Also, "Any Catachan unit or character may be upgraded to a Deathworld
Veteran..."
I take this as meaning the IG army can take units as Catachan's. (If you
used Valahallan models, they'd be Valahallans). These Catachan units >may<
be upgraded to Deathworld Veterans.
With that said, the 2.30 datafile won't allow any Assault teams unless the
'Commander' is upgraded to Deathworld Veterans. The only requirement in the
codex is that they are Catachan's, not Deathworld Veterans. (I read this as
you should be using 'Catachan' models for the command platoon and not
another type (cadians, valahallans, etc.)
The model is not what counts, it is the codex from which you use the rules.
Simply using a catachan model for your commander in your normal IG army,
does not mean that you are allowed to take units of Catachans. However, if
you are saying that the book simply states that the models must be a
catachan model, then the 'catachan' units that you take also must just be
the model and you should continue to use the normal rules for the IG. Just
use the models. =]
Hope that helps.
TP
If I am wrong, please let me know otherwise it'd be great to fix this in
future datafiles. (a simple "catachan" check box would be enough or just let
it go unrestricted).
As always, thanks for all your hard work with programming the datafiles.
-Shawn
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:43:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Voidhammer <voidhammer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: WH40k2 Files
I believe I wrote those files right before the upgrade
to 2.0 so they should still be viable for him. Isn't
2.0 a free upgrade for existing 1.4 users?
--Voidhammer
--- doublenot7@aol.com wrote:
> There are 40K2 data files available at the egroups
> site for AB. I believe
> they work with 1.4 but you really should upgrade <A
>
HREF="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ab-files/files/">Yahoo!
> Groups : ab-files
> Files</A> !
>
> Darren
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:29:29 EDT
From: doublenot7@aol.com
Subject: Re: WH40k2 Files
Yes, they are all free upgrades, I think.....but then again I bought the
cdrom to avoid this stuff

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:30:21 EDT
From: doublenot7@aol.com
Subject: Re: WH40k2 Files
BTW Voidhammer, you did a kick-ass job on those 40K2 files. Now how about
the Rogue Trader ones? LOL
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:45:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Voidhammer <voidhammer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: WH40k2 Files
Thanks, my first try at writing files and I take on
the 2nd edition system (I'm a nut). Still have to get
Deamon World, Genestealer Cult, and Sisters written
for those files, if I ever get a lot of time . . .
No RT files, I'd have to have all the books

the time involved would be quite substantial (the 2nd
files took about 6 months).
--VH
--- doublenot7@aol.com wrote:
> BTW Voidhammer, you did a kick-ass job on those 40K2
> files. Now how about
> the Rogue Trader ones? LOL
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:11:07 -0700
From: "Shawn Campbell" <shawn@electricstitch.com>
Subject: Re: [40K] Catachan units in IG armies
From: "DiPonio" <DiPonio@voyager.net>
> The model is not what counts, it is the codex from which you use the
rules.
You'd have to read Codex: Catachans.
> Simply using a catachan model for your commander in your normal IG army,
> does not mean that you are allowed to take units of Catachans.
The Catachan Codex specifically has rules for taking Catachan units in a
normal IG army. Any unit can be made into a Catachan unit for free. The
Catachan unit may be upgraded to Deathworld Veterans for +3 pts.
> However, if
> you are saying that the book simply states that the models must be a
> catachan model,
It doesn't say that you have to use "Catachan" models, but I couldn't think
of any other way of "modeling" the fact that they are Catachans other than
using Catachan models
> then the 'catachan' units that you take also must just be
> the model and you should continue to use the normal rules for the IG.
A "Catachan" Command Platoon is allowed to take 0-2 Assault Teams from
Codex: Catachans. The Datafiles only allow the 0-2 assault teams if you
upgrade the "Catachan" command platoon to a "Deathworld Veteran" command
platoon. According to the Codex, they only have to be "Catachan" and not
"Deathworld Veterans."
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