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There are 5 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: VDR corrections
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
2. Re: Revised B5W Fleet Action files finished
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
3.
From: "Pietro lombardo" <lomb_br@tin.it>
4. a few quick things on the 40k files
From: Kevin Fuhrman <mop@cybergap.net>
5. Re: a few quick things on the 40k files
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 11:32:57 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: VDR corrections

At 08:42 02/01/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi Colen!
>Have you included the changes to the VDR rules stated at
>http://www.games-workshop.co.uk/gfx/approved/VDRFollowUp.pdf
>in the new 40k datafiles?

Yep.


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 11:35:23 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: Revised B5W Fleet Action files finished

At 20:10 01/01/2001 -0800, you wrote:

>-I'm using the list attribute to choose children for my unit leaders,
>but I'd like to restrict the total size of each unit to 14 models (there
>may be one parent, and any combination of children making up this total).

Use a stat to hold the number of models in the unit. Have each child unit
add their size to their parent's stat, and then use lcmp to make sure it
doesn't go above 14.


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 16:29:51 +0100
From: "Pietro lombardo" <lomb_br@tin.it>
Subject:




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 10:51:08 -0500
From: Kevin Fuhrman <mop@cybergap.net>
Subject: a few quick things on the 40k files



I have a few quick bugs to point out in the 40k files.

1) The composition report for the GT format appears to use two organization
charts. Other than that the list works wonderfully.

2) The Aliatoc Craftworld list doesn't account for Vyper squads correctly,
you can only have a number of Guardian Storm, Guardian Defender, Guardian
Jetbikes, and Vyper squads equal to the umber of pathfinders and rangers.
It does not check the Vypers.

3) This isn't really a bug but the Imperial Guard list is very long with
all of the Forge World vehicles included, would it be possible to have
those on a toggle switch like special characters?



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 21:28:54 +0000
From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
Subject: Re: a few quick things on the 40k files

At 10:51 02/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:


> I have a few quick bugs to point out in the 40k files.
>
>1) The composition report for the GT format appears to use two organization
>charts. Other than that the list works wonderfully.

That's the way it has to be, unfortunately. If we look at the normal number
of things:

1-2 HQ
0-3 Elites
2-6 Troops
0-3 Fast Attack
0-3 Heavy Support

What's the maximum number of things you could include in a Tournament
force? You could have no troops at all in your main force, but 6 in the
first reserve and 6 in the second reserve. Thus, 12 troops are required. Etc.

>2) The Aliatoc Craftworld list doesn't account for Vyper squads correctly,
>you can only have a number of Guardian Storm, Guardian Defender, Guardian
>Jetbikes, and Vyper squads equal to the umber of pathfinders and rangers.
>It does not check the Vypers.

Who'd have thought that the random inclusion of an 's' could cause so much
havoc. :) Fixed now, out with next version, etc.

>3) This isn't really a bug but the Imperial Guard list is very long with
>all of the Forge World vehicles included, would it be possible to have
>those on a toggle switch like special characters?

It would indeed be possible, but I don't particularly want to do it. :) It
would be an easy thing to do, but the porpoise of the 'show special
characters' stuff is to hide away things people don't normally use, whereas
the Forge World things are in a lot more general use than, for example,
Marneus Calgar.


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Colin -

unfortunately not the case... the full 1200+500+500 must fit into one force
organization chart (per Jason Buyaki here in the states). it's not a big
deal (largely because of the greatly revised, expanded, and annoying
composition scoring rules...) but probably makes it easier to implement in
AB.

daniel

> Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 21:28:54 +0000
> From: Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister <demandred@skrill.org>
> Subject: Re: a few quick things on the 40k files
>
> At 10:51 02/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
> > I have a few quick bugs to point out in the 40k files.
> >
> >1) The composition report for the GT format appears to use
> two organization
> >charts. Other than that the list works wonderfully.
>
> That's the way it has to be, unfortunately. If we look at the
> normal number
> of things:
>
> 1-2 HQ
> 0-3 Elites
> 2-6 Troops
> 0-3 Fast Attack
> 0-3 Heavy Support
>
> What's the maximum number of things you could include in a Tournament
> force? You could have no troops at all in your main force,
> but 6 in the
> first reserve and 6 in the second reserve. Thus, 12 troops
> are required. Etc.
>


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At 05:36 PM 03/01/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Colin -
>
>unfortunately not the case... the full 1200+500+500 must fit into one force
>organization chart (per Jason Buyaki here in the states). it's not a big
>deal (largely because of the greatly revised, expanded, and annoying
>composition scoring rules...) but probably makes it easier to implement in
>AB.

Not only that, but I believe the base 1200pts must meet the requirements on
its own.

Phil G.



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At 19:59 03/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>At 05:36 PM 03/01/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >Colin -
> >
> >unfortunately not the case... the full 1200+500+500 must fit into one force
> >organization chart (per Jason Buyaki here in the states). it's not a big
> >deal (largely because of the greatly revised, expanded, and annoying
> >composition scoring rules...) but probably makes it easier to implement in
> >AB.
>
>Not only that, but I believe the base 1200pts must meet the requirements on
>its own.

Yep. Unfortunately, I can't see any way of enforcing both of those rules -
you can have one or t' other :)



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Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister wrote:

> At 19:59 03/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>
>> At 05:36 PM 03/01/01 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>> Colin -
>>>
>>> unfortunately not the case... the full 1200+500+500 must fit into one force
>>> organization chart (per Jason Buyaki here in the states). it's not a big
>>> deal (largely because of the greatly revised, expanded, and annoying
>>> composition scoring rules...) but probably makes it easier to implement in
>>> AB.
>>
>> Not only that, but I believe the base 1200pts must meet the requirements on
>> its own.
>
>
> Yep. Unfortunately, I can't see any way of enforcing both of those rules -
> you can have one or t' other :)

Just a thought, another 5 composition groups for the reserves? There's
some racial attribute which allows you to add composition groups. Then
add a validation that checks the total points in various composition
groups against the allowed total.


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At 07:59 PM 1/3/01 -0500, you wrote:
>At 05:36 PM 03/01/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >Colin -
> >
> >unfortunately not the case... the full 1200+500+500 must fit into one force
> >organization chart (per Jason Buyaki here in the states). it's not a big
> >deal (largely because of the greatly revised, expanded, and annoying
> >composition scoring rules...) but probably makes it easier to implement in
> >AB.
>
>Not only that, but I believe the base 1200pts must meet the requirements on
>its own.
>
>Phil G.



The 1200 point force doesn't need to meet all requirements, but
that plus either of the 500 point attachments must be a legal army.


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At 04:56 04/01/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>Colen 'Skrillboy' McAlister wrote:
>
> > At 19:59 03/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >> At 05:36 PM 03/01/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >>
> >>> Colin -
> >>>
> >>> unfortunately not the case... the full 1200+500+500 must fit into one
> force
> >>> organization chart (per Jason Buyaki here in the states). it's not a big
> >>> deal (largely because of the greatly revised, expanded, and annoying
> >>> composition scoring rules...) but probably makes it easier to
> implement in
> >>> AB.
> >>
> >> Not only that, but I believe the base 1200pts must meet the
> requirements on
> >> its own.
> >
> >
> > Yep. Unfortunately, I can't see any way of enforcing both of those rules -
> > you can have one or t' other :)
>
>Just a thought, another 5 composition groups for the reserves? There's
>some racial attribute which allows you to add composition groups. Then
>add a validation that checks the total points in various composition
>groups against the allowed total.

Unfortunately AB only supports 8 composition groups being used at once.
That would make 10. Also, I don't *think* (though I could be wrong) that
you can say "Trp1+Trp2+Trp3 must be >= 2 and <= 6". Thirdly, there's no way
to say "Apply this option only if the unit is of composition group X".

Minor flaws :)



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At 02:54 09/01/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>At 03:16 PM 1/4/01 +0000, you wrote:
>> >Just a thought, another 5 composition groups for the reserves? There's
>> >some racial attribute which allows you to add composition groups. Then
>> >add a validation that checks the total points in various composition
>> >groups against the allowed total.
>>
>>Unfortunately AB only supports 8 composition groups being used at once.
>>That would make 10.
>
>Correct. Prior to this moment, 5-6 comp groups was pretty standard, so
>having 8 provided some extra breathing room, just in case. Oh well. :-(

My new B5Wars files use all 8 in many situations, and would like to be able
to use 9 :O

>>Thirdly, there's no way
>>to say "Apply this option only if the unit is of composition group X".
>
>Sadly, you are correct. Is this actually useful on a more general level?
>If so, I can definitely add this capability.

I think this is the only place the 40k files would use it. I've never even
wondered if it was possible before.

>>Minor flaws :)
>
>Unfortunately, they are only minor until the situation arises where you
>need them, at which point they become not so minor flaws. :-)

Exactly. We need psychics looking into the future at all times!


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