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There are 23 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: crack
From: "Jimi" <james.tubman@blueyonder.co.uk>
2. Re: Just a thought...
From: "Steve Bornstein" <briareos@briareos.org>
3. Re: DoW ab list
From: "Russ " <isanti314@aol.com>
4. I just picked up the Crucible rules
From: "Matthew Hunt" <khaela@mindspring.com>
5. Mordheim Files
From: "Vegetta" <vegetta@alltel.net>
6. RE: crack
From: "Matthius" <Mathius@ticnet.com>
7. Re: crack
From: "marc" <marc@marc.homechoice.co.uk>
8. Re: crack
From: "Jimi" <james.tubman@blueyonder.co.uk>
9. Re: crack
From: "marc" <marc@marc.homechoice.co.uk>
10. RE: Mordheim Files
From: Ron Schachtner <ron_schachtner@administaff.com>
11. RE: crack
From: "Matthius" <Mathius@ticnet.com>
12. Standards for Daemon Hosts?
From: "Allen, Mike (DETE)" <allen.mike@saugov.sa.gov.au>
13. Re: Standards for Daemon Hosts?
From: "Christepher McKenney" <cam1@nrc.gov>
14. Re: Mordheim Files
From: "Vegetta" <vegetta@alltel.net>
15. Re: Mordheim Files
From: "Vegetta" <vegetta@alltel.net>
16. Re: I just picked up the Crucible rules
From: "Russell Sparkes" <rjs@inorbit.com>
17. Re: Italian user here, please help me
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
18. Re: Italian user here, please help me
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
19. Re: I just picked up the Crucible rules
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
20. Re: Just a thought...
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
21. Re: I just picked up the Crucible rules
From: "Matthew Hunt" <khaela@mindspring.com>
22. Re: Just a thought...
From: "Vegetta" <vegetta@alltel.net>
23. Re: I just picked up the Crucible rules
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:25:14 -0000
From: "Jimi" <james.tubman@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: crack
<snip>
Dumb schmuck!!
Jimi
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Unforgiven - http://www.egroups.com/group/unforgiven/info.html
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:05:05 -0000
From: "Steve Bornstein" <briareos@briareos.org>
Subject: Re: Just a thought...
--- In armybuilder@egroups.com, Scott Balfour <sbalfour@m...> wrote:
> Army Builder can save files as HTML. Palm computers can read HTML.
(AvantGo anyone?)
>
> Sounds like you've already got it.
Well, sort of. There are several doc readers available that will
read HTML files, but I haven't found one yet that doesn't screw up
tables by displaying each row as a column, which makes the whole
thing practically unreadable. AvantGo displays the HTML verbatim, so
it looks great, but a 32K army list HTML file scrolls verrrrrry
sloooooowly on my Visor Deluxe. Plus, since it displays it verbatim,
the army list is about five screens wide, which makes it a bit
cumbersome.
Now, if Army Builder could save in some sort of "minimal HTML", that
would work great. Instead of big tables and such, maybe just a
narrow text file with hypertext links inserted. I don't care how
long it is, but having to scroll horizontally is a total pain. And
before anyone mentions it, yes, I know Army Builder will save in text
as well, but the formatting gets screwed up on a Palm screen.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:04:56 -0000
From: "Russ " <isanti314@aol.com>
Subject: Re: DoW ab list
Christepher
Thanks for the info, I was just looking for the DOW files for the new
2.0 version of armybuilder.
Russ
:
> --- In armybuilder@egroups.com, isanti314@a... wrote:
> > Who has an updated ab list for the DoW for 6th edition for
version
> 2.0?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Russ
>
> Russ what do you mean updated? The current DOW files is in the
> ArmyBuilder files and yes it does throw up validation flags if you
> select 4 characters in a sub-2000 point unit. The files are
> available in the ab-files egroups' file directory (or direwolf_wh,
or
> www.skrill.org (I think)).
>
> Christepher
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:03:48 -0700
From: "Matthew Hunt" <khaela@mindspring.com>
Subject: I just picked up the Crucible rules
I just picked upthe Crucible rules and noticed AB Lite is on a CD in the back. Any other games going this route with Army Builder??
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:22:20 -0500
From: "Vegetta" <vegetta@alltel.net>
Subject: Mordheim Files
Hi all...
I was trying to figure out how to use the mordheim files (shadow elves and
averland)
I tried to import them but I keep getting a message not valid (They are for
AB 2.0 right?)
Slightly confused....
Iroguro no Yosei Ichiban
Mordheim Fishpond
http://www.alltel.net/~rgatrell/index.html.htm
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:26:21 -0600
From: "Matthius" <Mathius@ticnet.com>
Subject: RE: crack
I think the 10 other posts sums this up very nicely. Sheesh...
-----Original Message-----
From: Jimi [mailto:james.tubman@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 6:25 AM
To: armybuilder@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [AB] crack
<snip>
Dumb schmuck!!
Jimi
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 01:22:03 -0000
From: "marc" <marc@marc.homechoice.co.uk>
Subject: Re: crack
Don't blame Jimi for being a little slow, he 's got a lot of mailing lists to get around, lol
----- Original Message -----
From: Matthius
To: armybuilder@egroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:26 AM
Subject: RE: [AB] crack
I think the 10 other posts sums this up very nicely. Sheesh...
-----Original Message-----
From: Jimi [mailto:james.tubman@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 6:25 AM
To: armybuilder@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [AB] crack
<snip>
Dumb schmuck!!
Jimi
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 01:30:15 -0000
From: "Jimi" <james.tubman@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: crack
>Don't blame Jimi for being a little slow, he 's got a lot of mailing lists
to get
>around, lol
19 at the last count, of which 8 I have a hand in
Jimi
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40k3 - http://www.egroups.com/group/40k3/info.html
40k Fluff - http://www.egroups.com/group/40k_fluff/info.html
Astartes - http://www.egroups.com/group/adeptus_astartes/info.html
40k Chaos - http://www.egroups.com/group/40k-chaos/info.html
Grey Knights - http://www.egroups.com/group/greyknightchapter/info.html
Imperial Guard - http://www.egroups.com/group/imperial-guard/info.html
Sons Of Russ - http://www.egroups.com/group/sons-of-russ/info.html
Unforgiven - http://www.egroups.com/group/unforgiven/info.html
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 01:36:35 -0000
From: "marc" <marc@marc.homechoice.co.uk>
Subject: Re: crack
See? what did I say?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimi" <james.tubman@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AB] crack
> >Don't blame Jimi for being a little slow, he 's got a lot of mailing
lists
> to get
> >around, lol
>
> 19 at the last count, of which 8 I have a hand in
>
>
> Jimi
>
> FREE 40k card buildings - http://www.crosswinds.net/~astronomican/
>
> 40k3 - http://www.egroups.com/group/40k3/info.html
> 40k Fluff - http://www.egroups.com/group/40k_fluff/info.html
> Astartes - http://www.egroups.com/group/adeptus_astartes/info.html
> 40k Chaos - http://www.egroups.com/group/40k-chaos/info.html
> Grey Knights - http://www.egroups.com/group/greyknightchapter/info.html
> Imperial Guard - http://www.egroups.com/group/imperial-guard/info.html
> Sons Of Russ - http://www.egroups.com/group/sons-of-russ/info.html
> Unforgiven - http://www.egroups.com/group/unforgiven/info.html
>
>
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:36:40 -0600
From: Ron Schachtner <ron_schachtner@administaff.com>
Subject: RE: Mordheim Files
Veg,
Just copy the files into your Armybuilder/data directory. I did not
zip them down or use AB to package them. Just an upload of the .mor file.
Hope this helps.
Ron S.
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From: Vegetta [mailto:vegetta@alltel.net]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 6:22 PM
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Subject: [AB] Mordheim Files
Hi all...
I was trying to figure out how to use the mordheim files (shadow elves and
averland)
I tried to import them but I keep getting a message not valid (They are for
AB 2.0 right?)
Slightly confused....
Iroguro no Yosei Ichiban
Mordheim Fishpond
http://www.alltel.net/~rgatrell/index.html.htm
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:48:48 -0600
From: "Matthius" <Mathius@ticnet.com>
Subject: RE: crack
no no no.. wasn't being rude to Jimi.. just refrained from making my
comments on the issue because of the other 10 replies
Sorry for not
making it clearer hehehe
BTW.. I think I made a comeback over on 40K3, heh.. had to take a small
break
Matthius
-----Original Message-----
From: marc [mailto:marc@marc.homechoice.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 7:22 PM
To: armybuilder@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [AB] crack
Don't blame Jimi for being a little slow, he 's got a lot of mailing
lists to get around, lol
----- Original Message -----
From: Matthius
To: armybuilder@egroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:26 AM
Subject: RE: [AB] crack
I think the 10 other posts sums this up very nicely. Sheesh...
-----Original Message-----
From: Jimi [mailto:james.tubman@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 6:25 AM
To: armybuilder@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [AB] crack
<snip>
Dumb schmuck!!
Jimi
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:27:50 +1030
From: "Allen, Mike (DETE)" <allen.mike@saugov.sa.gov.au>
Subject: Standards for Daemon Hosts?
I've been using Army Builder to build a list for a tournament in Oz
(CANCON). My army is a daemon host with the core units carrying standards.
I was considering using the generic magic standards in the rule book but
that option doesn't seem to be available from the data files (?)
I'd appreciate it if I could be told either...
a) I'm dumb and it's there
b) Daemons can't take magic standards (a reference would be welcomed)
c ) It's an oversight
BTW I really, really appreciate that someone dedicates their lives to
maintaining the files!
Mike
Mike and Bev Allen
Gawler
South Australia
mailto
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:44:39 -0500
From: "Christepher McKenney" <cam1@nrc.gov>
Subject: Re: Standards for Daemon Hosts?
B. Pg 2 first line of Magic Items plus pg 8 does not allow any unit standards to be magical.
Christepher <living and breathing warhammer and AB>
>>> allen.mike@saugov.sa.gov.au 11/13 8:57 PM >>>
I've been using Army Builder to build a list for a tournament in Oz
(CANCON). My army is a daemon host with the core units carrying standards.
I was considering using the generic magic standards in the rule book but
that option doesn't seem to be available from the data files (?)
I'd appreciate it if I could be told either...
a) I'm dumb and it's there
b) Daemons can't take magic standards (a reference would be welcomed)
c ) It's an oversight
BTW I really, really appreciate that someone dedicates their lives to
maintaining the files!
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:07:35 -0500
From: "Vegetta" <vegetta@alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Mordheim Files
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Schachtner" <ron_schachtner@administaff.com>
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 8:36 PM
Subject: RE: [AB] Mordheim Files
> Veg,
> Just copy the files into your Armybuilder/data directory. I did not
> zip them down or use AB to package them. Just an upload of the .mor file.
> Hope this helps.
got this error message
special item id is duplicated:[bloodlst]
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:55:33 -0500
From: "Vegetta" <vegetta@alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Mordheim Files
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Schachtner" <ron_schachtner@administaff.com>
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 8:36 PM
Subject: RE: [AB] Mordheim Files
> Veg,
> Just copy the files into your Armybuilder/data directory. I did not
> zip them down or use AB to package them. Just an upload of the .mor file.
> Hope this helps.
That is what I thought, for some reason they will not work for me
I even tried to import the .mor again but nothing....
AH...such is life
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:08:55 -0000
From: "Russell Sparkes" <rjs@inorbit.com>
Subject: Re: I just picked up the Crucible rules
--- In armybuilder@egroups.com, "Matthew Hunt" <khaela@m...> wrote:
> I just picked upthe Crucible rules and noticed AB Lite is on a CD
> in the back. Any other games going this route with Army Builder??
I think Clan War Daimyo Edition was shipped with ABLite...
BTW, It's not the games going this route with AB, It's Rob (and thus
AB) going this route with the games manufacturers I'm sure if
there was any other new games out there that would be willing to
package ABLite and some data files with their rulebook, Rob would be
more than happy to oblige them. (Right Rob?
Enjoy,
Russell.
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:35:38 -0800
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Italian user here, please help me
At 09:43 AM 11/10/00 +0000, you wrote:
>First of all, excuse me for my bad english/american, I'm Italian ^^;
>I am creating (or better traslating and fixing with new rules) data
>files from Warhammer 40k in Italian, because some friends of mine
>uses armybuilder but don't understand many things.
>I work with abcreator for armybuilder 1.4d and I have some questions
>for you all.
Is there a reason to use V1.4? Creating data files with V2.0 is a lot
easier. The tools are better and you can also take advantage of lots of new
data file capabilities that have been added.
>1)I would like to know how to lock data files I created, because the
>lock option in abcreator doesn't seems to work. I also added the
>keyword "lock", but it didn't helped. Could someone explain me "step
>by step" the data file lock?
When you "lock" a file, it is tied to the computer you lock it on. As long
as you continue using that computer, the data file will be fully UNLOCKED.
Only when you use it on a different computer will the locking take effect.
The objective of locking is to ensure that no one else can modify the
author information and take credit for your efforts (which happened in the
early days of AB).
>2)Is there an editor for army builder 2.0? Is it possibile to use
>abcreator 1.4 version?
There is a V2.0 of the Construction Kit to go with the V2.0 release of Army
Builder. You can download it from the web-site for free. As I mentioned
above, switching to V2.0 will save you a lot of effort when writing data files.
>3)Do you think I should add credits to the creator of the data files
>I'm traslating IF I decide to release them in public, or I should
>even if I use them for personal use only? I must add that this is not
>exactly a translation, I use those data files as base, to which I
>added many things and modified many other...
If someone else wrote the initial files and you are modifying them,
DEFINITELY include credits for the original author. The only time to not
credit an original author is if you are writing the files from scratch or
the author has requested not to be given any credit. That's just my
personal philosophy, though.
>4)I'm looking for some help with this big traslation work, I would
>like to complete WH40k, WHFB and Mordeihm, if interested write me at
>cs25@edisons.it. Consider me a NEWBIE!
Good luck!!
Thanks, Rob
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:40:23 -0800
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Italian user here, please help me
At 01:08 PM 11/10/00 +0100, you wrote:
>I tried all of this once, but now I doubt I will start
>working on it again as long as different languages are not
>supported by Armybuilder itself. Hey Rob, can you hear me? I
>keep waiting. =
And I haven't forgotten. But there's only one of me, and I have to spread
myself pretty darn thin these days. There are other features that keep
getting higher priority because either they directly affect ALL users (or
at least a large chunk of them) or they are comparatively easy to
implement. The translation stuff represents a MAJOR amount of work, so I
still haven't made the time to add it in. But it keeps calling to me from
the todo list.
Thanks, Rob
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:22:31 -0800
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: I just picked up the Crucible rules
At 05:03 PM 11/13/00 -0700, you wrote:
>I just picked upthe Crucible rules and noticed AB Lite is on a CD in the
>back. Any other games going this route with Army Builder??
The first game to do this was Clan War Daimyo Edition, which was released
at GenCon this Summer. Crucible is the second. It looks like there will be
additional games doing this as well in the months to come.
What are your thoughts on the approach? I realize that you probably like
the idea in general, but I'm curious what you think about the execution.
What did we do right? What changes would you recommend for future bundling
efforts? I'm pretty green at this, so I'd appreciate all constructive
suggestions.
Thanks, Rob
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:28:40 -0800
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Just a thought...
There is no way that a useful version of AB will be possible on the current
handheld systems. AB requires too many resources and too much real estate.
This might be a possible avenue in the future, though.
However, the intent is that you CAN make use of handheld systems with V2.0.
AB2 introduced the ability to save rosters to a publicly defined XML file
format. The Construction Kit includes full source code for reading these
files, plus a sample application. Using this, it would be relatively
straightforward for someone to write a roster viewer for handheld systems,
and there are a few users who have already indicated that they were going
to write these. This wouldn't allow you to actually edit your rosters, but
it would let you view your roster and track things like wounds and the
consumption of limited-use items.
I'm hopeful that we'll see some preliminary offerings for handheld users by
the end of the year.
Thanks, Rob
At 10:29 PM 11/10/00 +0000, you wrote:
>But does anyone know if there are any plans for a very cut down version,
>(i.e only one race at a given time) of Army Builder for Palmtops and other
>hand held P.C's? Something like that could really help me out when I'm
>despretrly revising my army list before a game, lol.
>
>Thanks,.
> Marc
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:23:46 -0700
From: "Matthew Hunt" <khaela@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: I just picked up the Crucible rules
Being that I already own the full version, I still thought the idea was great. However NO WHERE on the Crucible book does it even mention it. No sticker no nothing. That could help.
Obvisously the more games you get to the more people will find out about AB.
Have you talked to the folks doing Mage Knight? Shops here can't keep enough of that game on the shelves at this point.
About the only things I can think of is to:
A) see if the game manufacturers can put some kind of sticker on the materials so folks know they get AB as part of the purchase and
B) maybe include that particular game file with the disc. I realize this last option may be too hard to do depending on how many game systems are gonna be including AB.
Matthew Hunt
Kurgan the Lurker
khaela@Mindspring.com
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From: Rob Bowes
To: armybuilder@egroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AB] I just picked up the Crucible rules
At 05:03 PM 11/13/00 -0700, you wrote:
I just picked upthe Crucible rules and noticed AB Lite is on a CD in the back. Any other games going this route with Army Builder??
The first game to do this was Clan War Daimyo Edition, which was released at GenCon this Summer. Crucible is the second. It looks like there will be additional games doing this as well in the months to come.
What are your thoughts on the approach? I realize that you probably like the idea in general, but I'm curious what you think about the execution. What did we do right? What changes would you recommend for future bundling efforts? I'm pretty green at this, so I'd appreciate all constructive suggestions.
Thanks, Rob
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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 00:58:44 -0500
From: "Vegetta" <vegetta@alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Just a thought...
I'm hopeful that we'll see some preliminary offerings for handheld users by the end of the year.
Thanks, Rob
I would be very interested in a PDA Armybuilder : )
.
Iroguro no Yosei Ichiban
Mordheim Fishpond
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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:47:48 -0800
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: I just picked up the Crucible rules
At 10:23 PM 11/13/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Being that I already own the full version, I still thought the idea was
>great. However NO WHERE on the Crucible book does it even mention it. No
>sticker no nothing. That could help.
The game companies handle all of that, and I have no control over it. They
HAVE been nice enough to offer a full-page "ad" within the book to promote
the tool. As AB gains penetration, the bundling will become a bigger sales
advantage for the game and thereby provide more compelling reason to
advertise its inclusion.
I definitely like the idea of the stickers, since they can be affixed to
existing stock and don't require any art changes.
>Obvisously the more games you get to the more people will find out about AB.
That's the whole idea! With the Clan War and Crucible bundles, I'm guessing
that AB ought to gain a pretty good level of visibility among fantasy
players. The next step is to work out a bundling with a major scifi game
system to gain visibility in that segment.
>Have you talked to the folks doing Mage Knight? Shops here can't keep
>enough of that game on the shelves at this point.
Haven't talked to them yet. It's on my todo list. I've been focused on some
high-priority stuff on this end that will be announced in the
not-too-distant future. Once you hear about it, I think you'll agree it
ought to take priority.
>About the only things I can think of is to:
>A) see if the game manufacturers can put some kind of sticker on the
>materials so folks know they get AB as part of the purchase and
>B) maybe include that particular game file with the disc. I realize this
>last option may be too hard to do depending on how many game systems are
>gonna be including AB.
The data files for both games ARE included on the bundled CD. The objective
is to enable gamers who purchase the game to start using AB immediately
with the game.
Thanks for the suggestion about the stickers!!!
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Topics in this digest:
1. Re: crack
From: "Jimi" <james.tubman@blueyonder.co.uk>
2. Re: Just a thought...
From: "Steve Bornstein" <briareos@briareos.org>
3. Re: DoW ab list
From: "Russ " <isanti314@aol.com>
4. I just picked up the Crucible rules
From: "Matthew Hunt" <khaela@mindspring.com>
5. Mordheim Files
From: "Vegetta" <vegetta@alltel.net>
6. RE: crack
From: "Matthius" <Mathius@ticnet.com>
7. Re: crack
From: "marc" <marc@marc.homechoice.co.uk>
8. Re: crack
From: "Jimi" <james.tubman@blueyonder.co.uk>
9. Re: crack
From: "marc" <marc@marc.homechoice.co.uk>
10. RE: Mordheim Files
From: Ron Schachtner <ron_schachtner@administaff.com>
11. RE: crack
From: "Matthius" <Mathius@ticnet.com>
12. Standards for Daemon Hosts?
From: "Allen, Mike (DETE)" <allen.mike@saugov.sa.gov.au>
13. Re: Standards for Daemon Hosts?
From: "Christepher McKenney" <cam1@nrc.gov>
14. Re: Mordheim Files
From: "Vegetta" <vegetta@alltel.net>
15. Re: Mordheim Files
From: "Vegetta" <vegetta@alltel.net>
16. Re: I just picked up the Crucible rules
From: "Russell Sparkes" <rjs@inorbit.com>
17. Re: Italian user here, please help me
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
18. Re: Italian user here, please help me
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
19. Re: I just picked up the Crucible rules
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
20. Re: Just a thought...
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
21. Re: I just picked up the Crucible rules
From: "Matthew Hunt" <khaela@mindspring.com>
22. Re: Just a thought...
From: "Vegetta" <vegetta@alltel.net>
23. Re: I just picked up the Crucible rules
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:25:14 -0000
From: "Jimi" <james.tubman@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: crack
<snip>
Dumb schmuck!!
Jimi
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:05:05 -0000
From: "Steve Bornstein" <briareos@briareos.org>
Subject: Re: Just a thought...
--- In armybuilder@egroups.com, Scott Balfour <sbalfour@m...> wrote:
> Army Builder can save files as HTML. Palm computers can read HTML.
(AvantGo anyone?)
>
> Sounds like you've already got it.
Well, sort of. There are several doc readers available that will
read HTML files, but I haven't found one yet that doesn't screw up
tables by displaying each row as a column, which makes the whole
thing practically unreadable. AvantGo displays the HTML verbatim, so
it looks great, but a 32K army list HTML file scrolls verrrrrry
sloooooowly on my Visor Deluxe. Plus, since it displays it verbatim,
the army list is about five screens wide, which makes it a bit
cumbersome.
Now, if Army Builder could save in some sort of "minimal HTML", that
would work great. Instead of big tables and such, maybe just a
narrow text file with hypertext links inserted. I don't care how
long it is, but having to scroll horizontally is a total pain. And
before anyone mentions it, yes, I know Army Builder will save in text
as well, but the formatting gets screwed up on a Palm screen.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:04:56 -0000
From: "Russ " <isanti314@aol.com>
Subject: Re: DoW ab list
Christepher
Thanks for the info, I was just looking for the DOW files for the new
2.0 version of armybuilder.
Russ
:
> --- In armybuilder@egroups.com, isanti314@a... wrote:
> > Who has an updated ab list for the DoW for 6th edition for
version
> 2.0?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Russ
>
> Russ what do you mean updated? The current DOW files is in the
> ArmyBuilder files and yes it does throw up validation flags if you
> select 4 characters in a sub-2000 point unit. The files are
> available in the ab-files egroups' file directory (or direwolf_wh,
or
> www.skrill.org (I think)).
>
> Christepher
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:03:48 -0700
From: "Matthew Hunt" <khaela@mindspring.com>
Subject: I just picked up the Crucible rules
I just picked upthe Crucible rules and noticed AB Lite is on a CD in the back. Any other games going this route with Army Builder??
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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:22:20 -0500
From: "Vegetta" <vegetta@alltel.net>
Subject: Mordheim Files
Hi all...
I was trying to figure out how to use the mordheim files (shadow elves and
averland)
I tried to import them but I keep getting a message not valid (They are for
AB 2.0 right?)
Slightly confused....
Iroguro no Yosei Ichiban
Mordheim Fishpond
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:26:21 -0600
From: "Matthius" <Mathius@ticnet.com>
Subject: RE: crack
I think the 10 other posts sums this up very nicely. Sheesh...
-----Original Message-----
From: Jimi [mailto:james.tubman@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 6:25 AM
To: armybuilder@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [AB] crack
<snip>
Dumb schmuck!!
Jimi
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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 01:22:03 -0000
From: "marc" <marc@marc.homechoice.co.uk>
Subject: Re: crack
Don't blame Jimi for being a little slow, he 's got a lot of mailing lists to get around, lol
----- Original Message -----
From: Matthius
To: armybuilder@egroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:26 AM
Subject: RE: [AB] crack
I think the 10 other posts sums this up very nicely. Sheesh...
-----Original Message-----
From: Jimi [mailto:james.tubman@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 6:25 AM
To: armybuilder@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [AB] crack
<snip>
Dumb schmuck!!
Jimi
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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 01:30:15 -0000
From: "Jimi" <james.tubman@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: crack
>Don't blame Jimi for being a little slow, he 's got a lot of mailing lists
to get
>around, lol
19 at the last count, of which 8 I have a hand in
Jimi
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40k3 - http://www.egroups.com/group/40k3/info.html
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Astartes - http://www.egroups.com/group/adeptus_astartes/info.html
40k Chaos - http://www.egroups.com/group/40k-chaos/info.html
Grey Knights - http://www.egroups.com/group/greyknightchapter/info.html
Imperial Guard - http://www.egroups.com/group/imperial-guard/info.html
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 01:36:35 -0000
From: "marc" <marc@marc.homechoice.co.uk>
Subject: Re: crack
See? what did I say?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimi" <james.tubman@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AB] crack
> >Don't blame Jimi for being a little slow, he 's got a lot of mailing
lists
> to get
> >around, lol
>
> 19 at the last count, of which 8 I have a hand in
>
>
> Jimi
>
> FREE 40k card buildings - http://www.crosswinds.net/~astronomican/
>
> 40k3 - http://www.egroups.com/group/40k3/info.html
> 40k Fluff - http://www.egroups.com/group/40k_fluff/info.html
> Astartes - http://www.egroups.com/group/adeptus_astartes/info.html
> 40k Chaos - http://www.egroups.com/group/40k-chaos/info.html
> Grey Knights - http://www.egroups.com/group/greyknightchapter/info.html
> Imperial Guard - http://www.egroups.com/group/imperial-guard/info.html
> Sons Of Russ - http://www.egroups.com/group/sons-of-russ/info.html
> Unforgiven - http://www.egroups.com/group/unforgiven/info.html
>
>
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:36:40 -0600
From: Ron Schachtner <ron_schachtner@administaff.com>
Subject: RE: Mordheim Files
Veg,
Just copy the files into your Armybuilder/data directory. I did not
zip them down or use AB to package them. Just an upload of the .mor file.
Hope this helps.
Ron S.
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From: Vegetta [mailto:vegetta@alltel.net]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 6:22 PM
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Subject: [AB] Mordheim Files
Hi all...
I was trying to figure out how to use the mordheim files (shadow elves and
averland)
I tried to import them but I keep getting a message not valid (They are for
AB 2.0 right?)
Slightly confused....
Iroguro no Yosei Ichiban
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:48:48 -0600
From: "Matthius" <Mathius@ticnet.com>
Subject: RE: crack
no no no.. wasn't being rude to Jimi.. just refrained from making my
comments on the issue because of the other 10 replies
Sorry for notmaking it clearer
heheheBTW.. I think I made a comeback over on 40K3, heh.. had to take a small
break
Matthius
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From: marc [mailto:marc@marc.homechoice.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 7:22 PM
To: armybuilder@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [AB] crack
Don't blame Jimi for being a little slow, he 's got a lot of mailing
lists to get around, lol
----- Original Message -----
From: Matthius
To: armybuilder@egroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:26 AM
Subject: RE: [AB] crack
I think the 10 other posts sums this up very nicely. Sheesh...
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From: Jimi [mailto:james.tubman@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 6:25 AM
To: armybuilder@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [AB] crack
<snip>
Dumb schmuck!!
Jimi
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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:27:50 +1030
From: "Allen, Mike (DETE)" <allen.mike@saugov.sa.gov.au>
Subject: Standards for Daemon Hosts?
I've been using Army Builder to build a list for a tournament in Oz
(CANCON). My army is a daemon host with the core units carrying standards.
I was considering using the generic magic standards in the rule book but
that option doesn't seem to be available from the data files (?)
I'd appreciate it if I could be told either...
a) I'm dumb and it's there
b) Daemons can't take magic standards (a reference would be welcomed)
c ) It's an oversight
BTW I really, really appreciate that someone dedicates their lives to
maintaining the files!
Mike
Mike and Bev Allen
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:44:39 -0500
From: "Christepher McKenney" <cam1@nrc.gov>
Subject: Re: Standards for Daemon Hosts?
B. Pg 2 first line of Magic Items plus pg 8 does not allow any unit standards to be magical.
Christepher <living and breathing warhammer and AB>
>>> allen.mike@saugov.sa.gov.au 11/13 8:57 PM >>>
I've been using Army Builder to build a list for a tournament in Oz
(CANCON). My army is a daemon host with the core units carrying standards.
I was considering using the generic magic standards in the rule book but
that option doesn't seem to be available from the data files (?)
I'd appreciate it if I could be told either...
a) I'm dumb and it's there
b) Daemons can't take magic standards (a reference would be welcomed)
c ) It's an oversight
BTW I really, really appreciate that someone dedicates their lives to
maintaining the files!
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:07:35 -0500
From: "Vegetta" <vegetta@alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Mordheim Files
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Schachtner" <ron_schachtner@administaff.com>
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 8:36 PM
Subject: RE: [AB] Mordheim Files
> Veg,
> Just copy the files into your Armybuilder/data directory. I did not
> zip them down or use AB to package them. Just an upload of the .mor file.
> Hope this helps.
got this error message
special item id is duplicated:[bloodlst]
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:55:33 -0500
From: "Vegetta" <vegetta@alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Mordheim Files
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Schachtner" <ron_schachtner@administaff.com>
To: ab@support.wolflair.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 8:36 PM
Subject: RE: [AB] Mordheim Files
> Veg,
> Just copy the files into your Armybuilder/data directory. I did not
> zip them down or use AB to package them. Just an upload of the .mor file.
> Hope this helps.
That is what I thought, for some reason they will not work for me
I even tried to import the .mor again but nothing....
AH...such is life
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:08:55 -0000
From: "Russell Sparkes" <rjs@inorbit.com>
Subject: Re: I just picked up the Crucible rules
--- In armybuilder@egroups.com, "Matthew Hunt" <khaela@m...> wrote:
> I just picked upthe Crucible rules and noticed AB Lite is on a CD
> in the back. Any other games going this route with Army Builder??
I think Clan War Daimyo Edition was shipped with ABLite...
BTW, It's not the games going this route with AB, It's Rob (and thus
AB) going this route with the games manufacturers
I'm sure if there was any other new games out there that would be willing to
package ABLite and some data files with their rulebook, Rob would be
more than happy to oblige them. (Right Rob?
Enjoy,
Russell.
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:35:38 -0800
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Italian user here, please help me
At 09:43 AM 11/10/00 +0000, you wrote:
>First of all, excuse me for my bad english/american, I'm Italian ^^;
>I am creating (or better traslating and fixing with new rules) data
>files from Warhammer 40k in Italian, because some friends of mine
>uses armybuilder but don't understand many things.
>I work with abcreator for armybuilder 1.4d and I have some questions
>for you all.
Is there a reason to use V1.4? Creating data files with V2.0 is a lot
easier. The tools are better and you can also take advantage of lots of new
data file capabilities that have been added.
>1)I would like to know how to lock data files I created, because the
>lock option in abcreator doesn't seems to work. I also added the
>keyword "lock", but it didn't helped. Could someone explain me "step
>by step" the data file lock?
When you "lock" a file, it is tied to the computer you lock it on. As long
as you continue using that computer, the data file will be fully UNLOCKED.
Only when you use it on a different computer will the locking take effect.
The objective of locking is to ensure that no one else can modify the
author information and take credit for your efforts (which happened in the
early days of AB).
>2)Is there an editor for army builder 2.0? Is it possibile to use
>abcreator 1.4 version?
There is a V2.0 of the Construction Kit to go with the V2.0 release of Army
Builder. You can download it from the web-site for free. As I mentioned
above, switching to V2.0 will save you a lot of effort when writing data files.
>3)Do you think I should add credits to the creator of the data files
>I'm traslating IF I decide to release them in public, or I should
>even if I use them for personal use only? I must add that this is not
>exactly a translation, I use those data files as base, to which I
>added many things and modified many other...
If someone else wrote the initial files and you are modifying them,
DEFINITELY include credits for the original author. The only time to not
credit an original author is if you are writing the files from scratch or
the author has requested not to be given any credit. That's just my
personal philosophy, though.
>4)I'm looking for some help with this big traslation work, I would
>like to complete WH40k, WHFB and Mordeihm, if interested write me at
>cs25@edisons.it. Consider me a NEWBIE!
Good luck!!
Thanks, Rob
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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:40:23 -0800
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Italian user here, please help me
At 01:08 PM 11/10/00 +0100, you wrote:
>I tried all of this once, but now I doubt I will start
>working on it again as long as different languages are not
>supported by Armybuilder itself. Hey Rob, can you hear me? I
>keep waiting. =
And I haven't forgotten. But there's only one of me, and I have to spread
myself pretty darn thin these days. There are other features that keep
getting higher priority because either they directly affect ALL users (or
at least a large chunk of them) or they are comparatively easy to
implement. The translation stuff represents a MAJOR amount of work, so I
still haven't made the time to add it in. But it keeps calling to me from
the todo list.
Thanks, Rob
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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:22:31 -0800
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: I just picked up the Crucible rules
At 05:03 PM 11/13/00 -0700, you wrote:
>I just picked upthe Crucible rules and noticed AB Lite is on a CD in the
>back. Any other games going this route with Army Builder??
The first game to do this was Clan War Daimyo Edition, which was released
at GenCon this Summer. Crucible is the second. It looks like there will be
additional games doing this as well in the months to come.
What are your thoughts on the approach? I realize that you probably like
the idea in general, but I'm curious what you think about the execution.
What did we do right? What changes would you recommend for future bundling
efforts? I'm pretty green at this, so I'd appreciate all constructive
suggestions.
Thanks, Rob
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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:28:40 -0800
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: Just a thought...
There is no way that a useful version of AB will be possible on the current
handheld systems. AB requires too many resources and too much real estate.
This might be a possible avenue in the future, though.
However, the intent is that you CAN make use of handheld systems with V2.0.
AB2 introduced the ability to save rosters to a publicly defined XML file
format. The Construction Kit includes full source code for reading these
files, plus a sample application. Using this, it would be relatively
straightforward for someone to write a roster viewer for handheld systems,
and there are a few users who have already indicated that they were going
to write these. This wouldn't allow you to actually edit your rosters, but
it would let you view your roster and track things like wounds and the
consumption of limited-use items.
I'm hopeful that we'll see some preliminary offerings for handheld users by
the end of the year.
Thanks, Rob
At 10:29 PM 11/10/00 +0000, you wrote:
>But does anyone know if there are any plans for a very cut down version,
>(i.e only one race at a given time) of Army Builder for Palmtops and other
>hand held P.C's? Something like that could really help me out when I'm
>despretrly revising my army list before a game, lol.
>
>Thanks,.
> Marc
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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:23:46 -0700
From: "Matthew Hunt" <khaela@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: I just picked up the Crucible rules
Being that I already own the full version, I still thought the idea was great. However NO WHERE on the Crucible book does it even mention it. No sticker no nothing. That could help.
Obvisously the more games you get to the more people will find out about AB.
Have you talked to the folks doing Mage Knight? Shops here can't keep enough of that game on the shelves at this point.
About the only things I can think of is to:
A) see if the game manufacturers can put some kind of sticker on the materials so folks know they get AB as part of the purchase and
B) maybe include that particular game file with the disc. I realize this last option may be too hard to do depending on how many game systems are gonna be including AB.
Matthew Hunt
Kurgan the Lurker
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From: Rob Bowes
To: armybuilder@egroups.com
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Subject: Re: [AB] I just picked up the Crucible rules
At 05:03 PM 11/13/00 -0700, you wrote:
I just picked upthe Crucible rules and noticed AB Lite is on a CD in the back. Any other games going this route with Army Builder??
The first game to do this was Clan War Daimyo Edition, which was released at GenCon this Summer. Crucible is the second. It looks like there will be additional games doing this as well in the months to come.
What are your thoughts on the approach? I realize that you probably like the idea in general, but I'm curious what you think about the execution. What did we do right? What changes would you recommend for future bundling efforts? I'm pretty green at this, so I'd appreciate all constructive suggestions.
Thanks, Rob
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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 00:58:44 -0500
From: "Vegetta" <vegetta@alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Just a thought...
I'm hopeful that we'll see some preliminary offerings for handheld users by the end of the year.
Thanks, Rob
I would be very interested in a PDA Armybuilder : )
.
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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:47:48 -0800
From: Rob Bowes <rob@wolflair.com>
Subject: Re: I just picked up the Crucible rules
At 10:23 PM 11/13/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Being that I already own the full version, I still thought the idea was
>great. However NO WHERE on the Crucible book does it even mention it. No
>sticker no nothing. That could help.
The game companies handle all of that, and I have no control over it. They
HAVE been nice enough to offer a full-page "ad" within the book to promote
the tool. As AB gains penetration, the bundling will become a bigger sales
advantage for the game and thereby provide more compelling reason to
advertise its inclusion.
I definitely like the idea of the stickers, since they can be affixed to
existing stock and don't require any art changes.
>Obvisously the more games you get to the more people will find out about AB.
That's the whole idea! With the Clan War and Crucible bundles, I'm guessing
that AB ought to gain a pretty good level of visibility among fantasy
players. The next step is to work out a bundling with a major scifi game
system to gain visibility in that segment.
>Have you talked to the folks doing Mage Knight? Shops here can't keep
>enough of that game on the shelves at this point.
Haven't talked to them yet. It's on my todo list. I've been focused on some
high-priority stuff on this end that will be announced in the
not-too-distant future. Once you hear about it, I think you'll agree it
ought to take priority.
>About the only things I can think of is to:
>A) see if the game manufacturers can put some kind of sticker on the
>materials so folks know they get AB as part of the purchase and
>B) maybe include that particular game file with the disc. I realize this
>last option may be too hard to do depending on how many game systems are
>gonna be including AB.
The data files for both games ARE included on the bundled CD. The objective
is to enable gamers who purchase the game to start using AB immediately
with the game.
Thanks for the suggestion about the stickers!!!
- Rob
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Lone Wolf Development www.wolflair.com
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