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Deleting or renaming existing tags

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Mmurphy

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Is there a way to delete or rename the existing tags? For example, the Race tag has Aasimar, Fetchling, kobold, etc that do not exist in my world. I want to delete them, or just rename them (catman for example).

I see I can add but I would prefer to not have all the 'extra' ones.

Thanks.
 
Doesn't look like you can delete them, but you can rename them.

Click Manage -> Tags

Select desired tag, change name on right side of screen.
 
You'll be able to hide the pre-defined tags that you don't want in an upcoming release, just like you can hide categories, section types, and facet types.

Please do NOT rename tags to give them a completely different meaning. I just discovered that the warning text about doing that was not included in the release. That will be added shortly. But it's important that you not change the meaning of a tag. The reason for this will be explained, but I'm too tired to detail it all coherently here now.
 
Zaphod Beebledoc said:
I clicked on the hammer and spanner to the right of the tags and clicked delete tag... (The only option right now!)
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Ah, just thought... When I did that, it was to tags *I* had created, but I've not tried it on pre-constructed content. (Which is probably not a good idea!)

Also, you can hide tags if you are not going to use them. (I'm not sure how though...)
 
Hiding tags you don't want to use is not yet fully implemented, but it's something we're working on right now.
 
rob said:
You'll be able to hide the pre-defined tags that you don't want in an upcoming release, just like you can hide categories, section types, and facet types.

Please do NOT rename tags to give them a completely different meaning. I just discovered that the warning text about doing that was not included in the release. That will be added shortly. But it's important that you not change the meaning of a tag. The reason for this will be explained, but I'm too tired to detail it all coherently here now.
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What if you have already done that... I know that I have changed at least a couple of the Race tags....

Would changing them back fix whatever the problem is? If so, can I get a list of what should be there?
 
Daelda said:
What if you have already done that... I know that I have changed at least a couple of the Race tags....

Would changing them back fix whatever the problem is? If so, can I get a list of what should be there?
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Uh yeah, this.

I've completely renamed all the races, as well as added a couple dozen more. I have no idea what was supposed to be what.
 
Dakadin said:
Try creating a new test realm so you can get a list of the defaults.
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Unfortunately I've added dozens and don't know which ones got renamed to what. If there are any pointers left over in the database, there is essentially no way for me to know which is supposed to be which.
 
I think you're stuck until data can be transferred between realms or users, or unless LW is willing to take some time to help out to identify which tag is which in your realm.

Once data transfer is available, I believe you would be able to create a new default realm and use the out-of-the-box race tags to create sample individuals. Name them with their race included (e.g., "Jimmy the Elf") and set the race tag. Export those individuals from the default realm and import them into the realm where you renamed race tags.

Look at the individuals and make note of the race tag associated with them now. If you see Jimmy the Elf's race is now listed as "Vulcan" then you know you renamed the Elf tag to Vulcan.

You can then rename the Vulcan tag back to Elf. Now all your Vulcan individuals show a race of Elf. Create a new race tag for Vulcan, and now go through all the Elf characters and change their race to your (newly-created) Vulcan tag.

Of course, this is all speculation/guesswork on my part, as I have no inside knowledge of Realm Works's workings, but I have done similar things in database cleanup before.

EDIT Addendum: This illustrates why changing the common data can be Bad. If you buy or download a Realms Works dataset from someone else, they will have used that common data, and the terms won't match up. Databases generally don't see "Elf" or "Vulcan" in things like this. Instead they use IDs (either numbers or long strings of letters and numbers called GUIDs) to assign them and refer to them. "Elf" or "Vulcan" is just a label. We can change the label, but we can't change the underlying ID.

When you start sharing data, other datasets will refer to (for example) tag number 15037 in the common data. If you renamed tag 15037 to "Wombat" in your common data, then that is what will show up instead of what the original author intended.
 
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