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Deathwing Termies Str 10?

  • Thread starter Thread starter matthius1 at coserv.net
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Hi Colen,

I noticed that when I select a unit of Deathwing terminators for a
Dark Angels army, they are listed with strength of 10.

I experimented briefly with the sergeant.

- Str 4 when armed with power sword and storm bolter
- Str 8 when armed with power fist and storm bolter
- Str 10 when armed with thunder hammer and power fist

I experimented with the termie squad
- the power fist selection is greyed out.
- unlimited thunder hammers can be added without reducing the number
of power fists.
- two assualt cannons can be added without reducing the number of
storm bolters.

BTW, thanks for your efforts.

gm


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At 18:40 20/02/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi Colen,
>
>I noticed that when I select a unit of Deathwing terminators for a
>Dark Angels army, they are listed with strength of 10.
>
>I experimented briefly with the sergeant.
>
>- Str 4 when armed with power sword and storm bolter
>- Str 8 when armed with power fist and storm bolter
>- Str 10 when armed with thunder hammer and power fist

Blast. I forgot to bound the maximum strength to 8.

Currently it's saying "We have a power fist, multiply strength by 2." Then
it's saying "We have a Thunder Hammer, multiply strength by 2." Luckily it
has a maximum of 10...

>I experimented with the termie squad
>- the power fist selection is greyed out.
>- unlimited thunder hammers can be added without reducing the number
>of power fists.
>- two assualt cannons can be added without reducing the number of
>storm bolters.

That's because you can only use the clever "greyed out thing reduces
automatically" on one option per unit. You have to reduce the storm bolters
yourself, until it stops giving an error :)



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At 19:28 20/02/2001 +0000, you wrote:
> > Well the ThunderHammer doesn't take place of the Power Fist.. it
>takes the Storm Bolter.. although the Stormshield DOES take place of
>the power fist.
>
>gm: Really???? How odd...

The four "traditional" terminator outfits were:

Storm Bolter & Power Fist
Storm Bolter & Power Weapon
2 Lightning Claws
Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield

>So, you can't take a thunder hammer and
>storm bolter?

Normal termis can't. Characters can.

>How often have you seen a terminator with a power fist
>and thunder hammer? ... Something ... sense ... make ... not ...
>
>Yes you can take 2 assault cannons and doesn't drop the
>StormBolter... hey he does his best ;) and I'm sure there's a good
>reason...
>
>gm: Well, that's no biggie. =)
>
>The bigger molehill is the str 10 in the statline. To me, what seems
>to be happening is that two CCW's that both double strength are being
>used and then capped at Str 10.

Exactly. I've just added another cap to stop it at 8.


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> Well the ThunderHammer doesn't take place of the Power Fist.. it
takes the Storm Bolter.. although the Stormshield DOES take place of
the power fist.

gm: Really???? How odd... So, you can't take a thunder hammer and
storm bolter? How often have you seen a terminator with a power fist
and thunder hammer? ... Something ... sense ... make ... not ...

Yes you can take 2 assault cannons and doesn't drop the
StormBolter... hey he does his best ;) and I'm sure there's a good
reason...

gm: Well, that's no biggie. =)

The bigger molehill is the str 10 in the statline. To me, what seems
to be happening is that two CCW's that both double strength are being
used and then capped at Str 10.

gm




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At 19:41 20/02/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>
> > The four "traditional" terminator outfits were:
> >
> > Storm Bolter & Power Fist
> > Storm Bolter & Power Weapon
> > 2 Lightning Claws
> > Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield
> >
> > >So, you can't take a thunder hammer and
> > >storm bolter?
> >
> > Normal termis can't. Characters can.
>
>gm: Hmmm..., I was sort of under the impression that 'Deathwing'
>Termies can mix and match weapons and, as a result, end up with some
>non-traditional weapon combos. Isn't that one of the reasons for the
>increased cost of them? I'll need to reread my 'dex this evening.

Deathwing terminators might do; from what I let them do in the AB file,
they apparently can. Normal terminators certainly can't.



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At 14:05 20/02/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>Deathwing can mix and match weapons as in a Lightning Claw Termie can be
>included in a squad with Cyclone Missile Launchers :) Not meaning they
>can mix and match weapon types on the Termie.. I wish ;)

Hmm, you're right. I'll have to fix that :/


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[snippage]

> Blast. I forgot to bound the maximum strength to 8.
>
> Currently it's saying "We have a power fist, multiply strength by
2." Then
> it's saying "We have a Thunder Hammer, multiply strength by 2."
Luckily it
> has a maximum of 10...

gm: I thought it was something like that. =)

> >I experimented with the termie squad
> >- the power fist selection is greyed out.
> >- unlimited thunder hammers can be added without reducing the
number
> >of power fists.
> >- two assualt cannons can be added without reducing the number of
> >storm bolters.
>
> That's because you can only use the clever "greyed out thing
reduces
> automatically" on one option per unit. You have to reduce the storm
bolters
> yourself, until it stops giving an error :)

Okie dokie, no problem with that. Thanks! =)



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> The four "traditional" terminator outfits were:
>
> Storm Bolter & Power Fist
> Storm Bolter & Power Weapon
> 2 Lightning Claws
> Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield
>
> >So, you can't take a thunder hammer and
> >storm bolter?
>
> Normal termis can't. Characters can.

gm: Hmmm..., I was sort of under the impression that 'Deathwing'
Termies can mix and match weapons and, as a result, end up with some
non-traditional weapon combos. Isn't that one of the reasons for the
increased cost of them? I'll need to reread my 'dex this evening.

> Exactly. I've just added another cap to stop it at 8.

Cool!

gm


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