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Data File Questions...

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deathlynx

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I am trying to figure out a couple of things I hope
y'all could help me with one or all of them...

1)Is it possible to slave one item to another? I have
a couple of items which require another item (upgrade)
to purchase...Is there a way to do this or should I
make the parent item an option?

2)I have an item which is supposed to be incrimental
(irng:1-5 and icnt:5) but when I select it in AB I can
never get the +/- buttons to appear much less work...

3)How do I prohibit a unit from being selectable when
used as an ally? I have an army which is unuversally
able to be an ally but one unit from that army is only
selectable by one other army...

Thanks for any answers to any of these questions...

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>From: Death Lynx <deathlynx@yahoo.com>
>
>2)I have an item which is supposed to be incrimental
>(irng:1-5 and icnt:5) but when I select it in AB I can
>never get the +/- buttons to appear much less work...

Caution. I have not used this command so I may be talking rubbish but here
goes anyway. I presume that you are setting a parameter which can take a
range from 1 to 5 in increments of 5. If the value is minimum of 1 and you
increment by 5 that makes 6 so the parameter cannot be increased. Try an
increment of 4.

Just my best guess.
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> >(irng:1-5 and icnt:5)
>
> Caution. I have not used this command so I may be
> talking rubbish but here
> goes anyway. I presume that you are setting a
> parameter which can take a
> range from 1 to 5 in increments of 5. If the value
> is minimum of 1 and you
> increment by 5 that makes 6 so the parameter cannot
> be increased. Try an
> increment of 4.

Actually the icnt command is used to state a maximum
number of this item which can be taken by the unit (at
least according to the help file)...It's useful for
special items which can be used by multiple units but
have a maximum count per unit...Virtually every item
in the particular army I'm writing has this command as
each model/unit can't repeat weapons...

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>From: Death Lynx <deathlynx@yahoo.com>
>
>Actually the icnt command is used to state a maximum
>number of this item which can be taken by the unit (at
>least according to the help file)...It's useful for
>special items which can be used by multiple units but
>have a maximum count per unit...Virtually every item
>in the particular army I'm writing has this command as
>each model/unit can't repeat weapons...

OK. My mistake. I misunderstood the meaning. Given that it is Item Count
then your approach should work.

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At 08:47 PM 7/27/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>I am trying to figure out a couple of things I hope
>y'all could help me with one or all of them...
>
>1)Is it possible to slave one item to another? I have
>a couple of items which require another item (upgrade)
>to purchase...Is there a way to do this or should I
>make the parent item an option?

You could do this by making one item assign a type to the unit (using the
'type' attribute on that item), and have the 'slave' items check that this
type is present using 'itst'.

>2)I have an item which is supposed to be incrimental
>(irng:1-5 and icnt:5) but when I select it in AB I can
>never get the +/- buttons to appear much less work...

You need to actually add the item before the +- buttons appear; they don't
appear when you just select the item in the list.

>3)How do I prohibit a unit from being selectable when
>used as an ally? I have an army which is unuversally
>able to be an ally but one unit from that army is only
>selectable by one other army...

Give that unit the external attribute "lglx:race=xx|race=yy", where xx and
yy are the two races it is legal for.

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>
> You could do this by making one item assign a type
> to the unit (using the
> 'type' attribute on that item), and have the 'slave'
> items check that this
> type is present using 'itst'.

Can you use an item as a "type"? I was under the
impression that you could only use "itst" command for
race, unit or mode (and I still have yet to figure out
what mode is however)...The problem is that the game
requires an item to be purchased (robotic arm) in
order to purchase specific weapons (specific hand to
hand weapons)...

>
> You need to actually add the item before the +-
> buttons appear; they don't
> appear when you just select the item in the list.

I tried...it adds the item at quantity 1 (with full
benefits) but the +/- buttons still don't
appear...I've also tried rewriting so that you can
select it multiple times, which worked but I would
really rather have it all as one option rather then
multiple selections...the full commands for the item
as stands are;

"Armor"
itst:type=Gnome
base:Armor+1
icnt:5
asop
irng:1-5

Incidentally the asop command is also not working as
it still adds an item line rather then putting this in
the unit's description...

>
> Give that unit the external attribute
> "lglx:race=xx|race=yy", where xx and
> yy are the two races it is legal for.
>
Thanks...I've made the change...this means that this
unit is not selectable to other races who can select
the race as ally but the units with nothing in the
external can, correct?

Thanks for the input so far...

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At 09:10 PM 7/30/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> > You could do this by making one item assign a type
> > to the unit (using the
> > 'type' attribute on that item), and have the 'slave'
> > items check that this
> > type is present using 'itst'.
>
>Can you use an item as a "type"? I was under the
>impression that you could only use "itst" command for
>race, unit or mode (and I still have yet to figure out
>what mode is however)...The problem is that the game
>requires an item to be purchased (robotic arm) in
>order to purchase specific weapons (specific hand to
>hand weapons)...

Take the item and give it a 'type:ItemOne' attribute. When the item is
selected, the unit will be assigned the type 'ItemOne'. Then give the
second item the attribute 'itst:type=ItemOne', so it will not appear until
the unit has the 'ItemOne' type. Itst works on race, category, type or unit id.

> >
> > You need to actually add the item before the +-
> > buttons appear; they don't
> > appear when you just select the item in the list.
>
>I tried...it adds the item at quantity 1 (with full
>benefits) but the +/- buttons still don't
>appear...I've also tried rewriting so that you can
>select it multiple times, which worked but I would
>really rather have it all as one option rather then
>multiple selections...the full commands for the item
>as stands are;
>
>"Armor"
>itst:type=Gnome
>base:Armor+1
>icnt:5
>asop
>irng:1-5
>
>Incidentally the asop command is also not working as
>it still adds an item line rather then putting this in
>the unit's description...

Are you sure you're looking for the right +- buttons? The ones that irng
activates are on the right-hand edge of the Wargear screen, under the
up/down buttons.

As specified in the notes for asop, the item only appears as an option in
'roster output'. That means it will appear as a normal item until you
actually print the roster, where it will appear as an option.

> > Give that unit the external attribute
> > "lglx:race=xx|race=yy", where xx and
> > yy are the two races it is legal for.
> >
>Thanks...I've made the change...this means that this
>unit is not selectable to other races who can select
>the race as ally but the units with nothing in the
>external can, correct?

Right. If a unit has no lglx attributes, it's accessible to everyone who
could take it as an ally. With the lglx, anyone who doesn't specifically
meet the restriction is excluded.


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> Take the item and give it a 'type:ItemOne'
> attribute.

Thanks...the way Army builder described the "type"
function I was lead to believe that it changed or
added a type to the parent unit rather then
categorizing the item itself by a type...It works...

>
>
> Are you sure you're looking for the right +-
> buttons? The ones that irng
> activates are on the right-hand edge of the Wargear
> screen, under the
> up/down buttons.

For some reason even those aren't appearing...

>
> As specified in the notes for asop, the item only
> appears as an option in
> 'roster output'. That means it will appear as a
> normal item until you
> actually print the roster, where it will appear as
> an option.

Ah, ok, thanks...

Thanks for your help so far...as soon as I get this
first data file through it should be clear sailing...

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At 12:18 PM 8/5/2003 -0700, you wrote:

>
> > Take the item and give it a 'type:ItemOne'
> > attribute.
>
>Thanks...the way Army builder described the "type"
>function I was lead to believe that it changed or
>added a type to the parent unit rather then
>categorizing the item itself by a type...It works...

The type is being added to a unit. The 'type' attribute adds a type to a
unit; the 'itst' attribute checks the types on the unit. Is that more clear?

> > Are you sure you're looking for the right +-
> > buttons? The ones that irng
> > activates are on the right-hand edge of the Wargear
> > screen, under the
> > up/down buttons.
>
>For some reason even those aren't appearing...

Strange. Could you upload the problem data files to the Files section of
this group and let me know where to find the problem, so I can take a
closer look?


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> The type is being added to a unit. The 'type'
> attribute adds a type to a
> unit; the 'itst' attribute checks the types on the
> unit. Is that more clear?

Ah! Got it...I never would have thought to work it
that way...Thanks...

>
> >For some reason even those aren't appearing...
>
> Strange. Could you upload the problem data files to
> the Files section of
> this group and let me know where to find the
> problem, so I can take a
> closer look?
>
Attaching to this message as I'm new to Yahoogroups
and not sure how to append to the files section...
The problem lies in the "Armor" Item selectable only
for Gnomes...I've only included the Gnome datafile as
the other couple are far from complete (no
items/options yet) and don't matter much anyway...

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>From: Death Lynx <deathlynx@yahoo.com>
> >
>Attaching to this message as I'm new to Yahoogroups
>and not sure how to append to the files section...

You will find that Yahoo now strips attachments off messages. In any case it
is preferable to upload them so as not to burden all members inboxes with
large files. Go to www.yahoogroups.com, log in and follow the lings to the
armybuilder group then the files section.

Terry

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I've uploaded the files to the Folder "Fairy Meat" in
the file section...Thanks ppz...

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At 06:37 PM 8/5/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >
> > >For some reason even those aren't appearing...
> >
> > Strange. Could you upload the problem data files to
> > the Files section of
> > this group and let me know where to find the
> > problem, so I can take a
> > closer look?
> >
>Attaching to this message as I'm new to Yahoogroups
>and not sure how to append to the files section...
>The problem lies in the "Armor" Item selectable only
>for Gnomes...I've only included the Gnome datafile as
>the other couple are far from complete (no
>items/options yet) and don't matter much anyway...

Uh... ok, that's really weird. I'm not sure why that's happening... is
there anything strange in the datadef file that would prevent more than one
of a single item being taken? Anyone else have any ideas?


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--- Colen McAlister <colen@wolflair.com> wrote:
> At 06:37 PM 8/5/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>
> Uh... ok, that's really weird. I'm not sure why
> that's happening... is
> there anything strange in the datadef file that
> would prevent more than one
> of a single item being taken? Anyone else have any
> ideas?
>
Finally found the problem...It was in the display box
for # available...apparently I somehow hit "0" as the
value for it...*shrug*...well, I now have most of the
files for the game system writen up...any advice as to
how to package it? Most are in self extracting
compressed files but I don't have anything which can
do that (at least to the best of my admitadely limited
Win XP knowledge)...Also where do I send it
afterwards? Thanks for helping me with those bugs...

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You need to do two things. First, package up the files using the ABExport
tool. This creates a file that AB can directly import. Second, contact
helpdesk@wolflair.com with the details to setup an author account for you.
You'll need to include the game system, publisher, publisher website, plus
your name and email address.

Thanks, Rob

At 07:54 AM 8/12/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Finally found the problem...It was in the display box
>for # available...apparently I somehow hit "0" as the
>value for it...*shrug*...well, I now have most of the
>files for the game system writen up...any advice as to
>how to package it? Most are in self extracting
>compressed files but I don't have anything which can
>do that (at least to the best of my admitadely limited
>Win XP knowledge)...Also where do I send it
>afterwards? Thanks for helping me with those bugs...


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