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creating Scion Dataset

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RedBeardSean

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Okay, I've made a start on this. I thought I'd chart my progress here for posterity and input. I'm working only the core rules only at this point, though I own the Companion, too. (and James McMurray's awesome Quick Reference thingie makes this quite a bit easier.)

So far, I've copied the WoD dataset, added the Pantheons as Clans and the Gods as Bloodlines. I'm assuming at some point I'll be able to change the category names, and delete the irrelevant data from those same categories.

I've also changed the dataset Wod logo for the Scion logo on the system selection screen (yeah, a minor detail, but it keeps me from editing the wrong set of files by mistake).

I'm using the HLKitWiki for reference, but I've not read through the whole thing; I'm mainly going through the steps in the same order they're laid out for the Savage Worlds walkthrough, and doing cross-referencing on the rest of the Wiki as necessary.

I have, at this point, precisely zero xml experience. I'll likely order XML For Dummies in a couple of weeks, as the editor becomes less useful than the raw coding.

More as it happens.
 
How much do the Scion *mechanics* differ from the WoD system? If the mechanics differ, you're going to run into big problems when you start to apply those changes. The reason is that you can't make significant changes to the mechanics within the WoD data files. Since you copied that game system, all of the mechanics live within the package file, and you can't make changes to that stuff.

If you are trying to adapt the existing WoD data files to Scion, then you do *not* need the Authoring Kit. You only need the Kit if you want to create a completely new set of data files from scratch - or to use the Savage Worlds or D&D 4E data files that are included with it as samples.

If Scion differs from WoD in terms of mechanics in distinct ways, you may need to start from scratch. I don't know enough about Scion to offer useful guidance in that regard.
 
Yeah, I think I may need to start over from scratch- much as I hate to have to.

The system is just different enough that I can make some comparisons to the WoD files, but they don't really follow the same rules as far as ability categorization, etc. I won't have time until next week to get back to it, but I will keep the journal going, here, when I do.
 
At this point, even if it's probably a year away, I'd probably wait for the Second Edition of Scion to come out.

Though if Lone Wolf could make a deal to support the new Scion and Trinity Continuum that would be seriously awesome.
 
charlieluce said:
At this point, even if it's probably a year away, I'd probably wait for the Second Edition of Scion to come out.

Though if Lone Wolf could make a deal to support the new Scion and Trinity Continuum that would be seriously awesome.
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CCP games is difficult to get licensing from... As far as I am aware, Onyx Path only writes the new content, they don't actually own any of the brand licenses... so Lone Wolf would still have to bargain with Hammer and Sickle games to do an official Scion package.
 
Paragon said:
Yes, but the question was about Scion, which they do own as the link I posted shows.
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I know that, But seeing as how nothing is mentioned in the newsletter as of yet, I think this going to have to be a user project. Onyx Path already outsourced Exalted 3's character builder to a different company, which you can read about in their website pages. I'm doubtful they will license Scion fir a character builder personally.
 
RavenX said:
I know that, But seeing as how nothing is mentioned in the newsletter as of yet, I think this going to have to be a user project. Onyx Path already outsourced Exalted 3's character builder to a different company, which you can read about in their website pages. I'm doubtful they will license Scion fir a character builder personally.
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While you might be right--people get strange about that--there's no self-evident reason for them not to do so; its not like it causes them any harm.

That said, they're unlikely to do it until the new edition is finished in any case.
 
Which will come out when? The Exalted 3 kickstarter had a lot of steam in the engine but there's been little noticable progress in that department...
 
The current Onyx Path schedule lists both Scion Second Edition and Exalted Third Edition as "On the Horizon", which in context means not before Fall 2015 (since OTH is the next listing past Summer 2015).
 
Yeah so if you'd like a current Scion dataset, I'd recommend starting to code it from the authoring kit. Chances are if a new edition is in their sights, they're not planning a character builder for the current edition, and might not license it. However, if it follows the standard white wolf model, Scion might be easy to build.
 
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