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Creating new class spell list with extend thing

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TheEnthusiast

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Hi,

I've created the artificer class from http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/unearthed-arcana/artificer , and now I want to create its spell list.

I was told I could use extend thing to add the sClass.cHelpArt tag needed to the spells, but hero lab is not letting me:

Code: 
Hero lab was forced to stop compilation after the following errors were detected:
Thing Extension 'spAlarm' - tag 'cHelpArt' not defined

The tag cHelpArt is in the class I created, in the same .user file I'm trying to add the extend thing.
 
When you are using Extend Thing to add a spell how are you doing so?

Thing Unique ID = Spell Tag (i.e.: spProtGoEv)
Group ID = sClass
TagID = Class Tag (i.e.: cHelpArt)

I hope this helps. :)
 
I'm not looking forward to the Community version. I've had a artificer class since before HL had 5E. It was the first class I entered into HL when it did go 5E. I just know it will break mine. <sigh>

I can change mine of course, but it will break every artificer I and my players have when I do so. :(
 
20-1 you used the tag cHelpArt for the artificer? Or the 3-letter abbreviation Art? . . . I know I did.:(
 
Will deleting the Community Pack file for the new UA Artificer break anything else? I may just do that instead. I'll have to delete it every update, but I can live with that.

I'd started my own version of the UA Artificer before I got sick. If I really want it I can always go ahead and create my own. It has some nice features but over all I am not impressed with it. I'd rather have seen a Tinker archetype than the gunsmith.
 
I'll probably do that. I remember the mess I ended up with when the Community Pack introduced its version of the UA Mystic. I had to change my version and it wrecked every Mystic my players had created. :(
 
You dont have to remover your class. The Artificer I created will only be available to people who checked the source 5e Unearthed Arcana - Artificer.

The classes should not overlap at all.
 
If we both create an Artificer with the name Artificer, Tags: cArtificer, cHelpArt, and a 3-letter abbreviation of Art, they will conflict.
 
ShadowChemosh said:
HL is case sensitive. You 100% sure that cHelpArt is correct?
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Yes, I copy/pasted it to be sure.

Here's what I'm doing:

1) Open the editor
2) Open the COM_5ePack_UA - Artificer.user file containing the class.
3) Go General->Extend Thing
4) Click New(Blank)
5) Click on Find Thing and use it to find the alarm spell (spAlarm)
6) On Group id I put sClass
7) On Tag Id I add cHelpArt
8) Click on Test now.

The error is issued.

If it matters, I'm using HL 8.0b
 
Strange. I tried the same thing and get the same error.

The 1 spell I already have in this particular .user file works fine.

Thing Unique Id = spJPA1Bern (custom spell)
Group Id = sClass
Tag Id = cHelpWit (custom class - Witch)

^^ works fine . . .
 
Stranger yet, I've just added several spells to my Artificer without the error I first got . . .

Make usre no space get enter by accident.
 
Mergon said:
If we both create an Artificer with the name Artificer, Tags: cArtificer, cHelpArt, and a 3-letter abbreviation of Art, they will conflict.
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Your Artificer is not part of the Community pack? You can add a preclude element to your source. This way my artificer gets disabled. At least that's how I understand it.
 
As I understand it, and I may be wrong, conflicts take place suring the load process. You just can't have duplicate tags period. Like I said I may be wrong. I'll wait to see if ShadowChemosh confirms this. I hope you are right.
 
Mergon said:
As I understand it, and I may be wrong, conflicts take place suring the load process. You just can't have duplicate tags period. Like I said I may be wrong. I'll wait to see if ShadowChemosh confirms this. I hope you are right.
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Unique ID's are exactly that Unique Across all of HL regardless of source.

For Pathfinder I actually enforce a "Number" value for our Classes now to prevent exactly this. So for a Path of War class we have cHelpPW1 and cHelpPW2.

You don't have to have Art the three letters for a class helper. In matter of fact the length of 10 for a tag is still valid. Meaning cHelp12456 is valid.
 
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