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Chaos Bikers

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Hi

I've sent this message in the past but i don't think it has been making it
so here goes... I noticed a problem in the 40k AB files for Chaos.. The
bikers have a problem.. They are all fine until you want to add an aspiring
champion.. he costs the total cost of biker+ac upgrade but you can't change
his bike's weapons.. so either his cost needs to be dropped to the ac
upgrade only or he needs a bike added to his profile to have weapon
changes.. I haven't had time to play with ABCreator so i have no clue how
to do this.

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One fine day in the middle of the night, Jeff Passarella
<eldrad@cyburban.com> got up to write:

>Hi
>
> I've sent this message in the past but i don't think it has been making
>it
>so here goes... I noticed a problem in the 40k AB files for Chaos.. The
>bikers have a problem.. They are all fine until you want to add an aspiring
>champion.. he costs the total cost of biker+ac upgrade but you can't change
>his bike's weapons.. so either his cost needs to be dropped to the ac
>upgrade only or he needs a bike added to his profile to have weapon
>changes.. I haven't had time to play with ABCreator so i have no clue how
>to do this.

I've just checked the relevant entry in the Codex... here it is.

Weapons: Each bike is fitted with twin-linked bolters. Each Chaos Space
Marine rider is armed with a bolt pistol or a close combat weapon.

Options: ... up to two Chaos Space Marine Bikers may replace their twin-
linked bolters with the following weapons: meltagun at +10 pts, or
plasma gun at +15 pts.

The Aspiring Champion can't change his bike's weapon, as the upgrades
are stated in the Options (and not the Weapons) section. He should,
however, have twin-linked bolters on his option list.

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> The Aspiring Champion can't change his bike's weapon, as the upgrades
> are stated in the Options (and not the Weapons) section. He should,
> however, have twin-linked bolters on his option list.

Yes he can - Codex:CSM, page 20

"The bike is generally fitted with twin-linked bolters, but can be upgraded to a
meltagun or a flamer at an additional +10pts each."


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One fine day in the middle of the night, Jimi
<james.tubman@cableinet.co.uk> got up to write:

>> The Aspiring Champion can't change his bike's weapon, as the upgrades
>> are stated in the Options (and not the Weapons) section. He should,
>> however, have twin-linked bolters on his option list.
>
>Yes he can - Codex:CSM, page 20
>
>"The bike is generally fitted with twin-linked bolters, but can be upgraded to a
>meltagun or a flamer at an additional +10pts each."

But surely if that applies to the Aspiring Champion, it should also
apply to the other members of the unit?

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> But surely if that applies to the Aspiring Champion, it should also
> apply to the other members of the unit?

Nope. Only Asp Champs and IC get the special stuff from the Wargear list :)


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--- In armybuilder@egroups.com, "Jimi" <james.tubman@c...> wrote:

> Yes he can - Codex:CSM, page 20
>
> "The bike is generally fitted with twin-linked bolters, but can be
upgraded to a
> meltagun or a flamer at an additional +10pts each."

But surely if that applied, it would apply to the normal bikers too?


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> But surely if that applied, it would apply to the normal bikers too?

The squad entry in the codex tells you what squad upgrades are available.


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One fine day in the middle of the night, Jimi
<james.tubman@cableinet.co.uk> got up to write:

>> But surely if that applied, it would apply to the normal bikers too?
>
>The squad entry in the codex tells you what squad upgrades are available.

Mmm. I'll take a look at it.

(Why do all these things have to come out of the woodwork now? Why
couldn't they have last year? :P)

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> (Why do all these things have to come out of the woodwork now? Why
> couldn't they have last year? :P)

Err....one more thing, the Chaos Rhino is still armed with a stormbolter instead
of a combi-bolter :)


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One fine day in the middle of the night, Jimi
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>> (Why do all these things have to come out of the woodwork now? Why
>> couldn't they have last year? :P)
>
>Err....one more thing, the Chaos Rhino is still armed with a stormbolter instead
>of a combi-bolter :)

That's because it says "Storm Bolter" in the codex. Is there any
resource that says differently, and if so where is it? :)

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> That's because it says "Storm Bolter" in the codex. Is there any
> resource that says differently, and if so where is it? :)

A Chaos Q&A in a WD issue cleared this up - GW said it was a 'cut and paste
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One fine day in the middle of the night, Jimi
<james.tubman@cableinet.co.uk> got up to write:

>> That's because it says "Storm Bolter" in the codex. Is there any
>> resource that says differently, and if so where is it? :)
>
>A Chaos Q&A in a WD issue cleared this up - GW said it was a 'cut and paste
>error' :)

Can you specify the issue? Or at least, "it was between issues x and y"?
Oh, and I'd like the moon on a stick as well. :)

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