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Castles & Crusades, AD&D, or 2E anyone?

I'd love to see any of the old school retro clones.

I'd make one myself but I just cannot wrap my head around the Authoring Kit.
 
I thought about doing a 2e based system, but it would require a lot of time to build the User Interface for it. Since digital copies of PDFs aren't something I have, it would mean many man hours of typing things in by hand as well like I did with Deathwatch. It's a tall order, but could be done, just not sure I'm willing to invest the time into it.
 
Is there anything that I could do to help with that RavenX? I wouldn't be able to contribute quickly, as I would only have a couple hours a week I could put towards this, but I'd LOVE to see a 2nd edition Hero Lab rule set. Especially if we could try to build it towards supporting the entirety of the 2nd and 2.5 rules (skills & powers, combat & tactics, etc).
 
If I were to tackle this, I'd only be willing to put work into reshaping the skeleton files to cover the basic mechanics, all the spells, skills, powers, magic items, etc would have to be added by other people. The data set would be large, even if the primary focus is just PHB and DMG items, this is easily a project that could take months to finish. I'd add items here and there to test the mechanics and make sure it's working correctly, but this would still be a good amount of work. My interest would be a 2.5 data set. I prefer the way things were streamlined, particularly for psychic powers.

I had toyed with the idea of doing this in the past, but I'm still not sure how to go about implementing the multiclass mechanics. 2e does have a good chunk of validation work to implement on multiclass options. I'm not sure I've got the ability to handle that personally.
 
Chris,

I'd also have to get the editor setup properly before we could do anything. That's a tab in itself. The problem I'm looking at is the multiclass characters. Those might take a while to implement as I'd have to have different XP trackers for each class added by the user since each class category has it's own XP table. I'd likely have to hard code classes into the data as well, with each of those tables built into the software and appropriate look ups, along with tables for the attributes. (There would be multiple tables here for some attributes because Dark Sun uses it's own look up for Strength and Constitution).

Just the base mechanics will be a lot of work to get implemented. My focus would be on single class characters at first until I could figure out how to implement multiclass functionality. There are a lot of tables to add there.
 
I've been messing around a little with the source code for the 2e file I started a couple years ago. I am going to say now, this is a long ways off from being anywhere near usable. I am going to see what I can do based on what I've already built. I can't guarantee this project will get done quickly, as I only have so many hours in a day to work on it, and other projects will come before this one.
 
If any of you guys have time and want to assist in building the 2e dataset, private message me.

I've got one person helping so far. You don't need to know XML or how to use a data editor. I need people who can use either word pad or Microsoft word to type up spell and Psionic power descriptions. All I need is the name of the power and the description, so can just cut and paste them into place in the data. This would take hours of work off my shoulders and let me focus on game mechanics. If you're interested let me know. I'll be handing out workloads in small but manageable chunks. If enough people help this data can be built reasonably faster than I'd be able to Do on my own.
 
Well, I would help, but I just never liked the 2nd edition that much. 1st and 3rd yes, just didn't like the whole kit thing, thought it just didn't do the job it was suppose to do, but good luck I'm sure there are plenty of people who enjoyed and still do and will help. Good luck my friend.
 
jbearwillis said:
Well, I would help, but I just never liked the 2nd edition that much. 1st and 3rd yes, just didn't like the whole kit thing, thought it just didn't do the job it was suppose to do, but good luck I'm sure there are plenty of people who enjoyed and still do and will help. Good luck my friend.
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Character kits / Archetypes doesn't matter what they're called. Lol. And I'm not adding those immediately jbearwillis, got wayyyyy to many things from just the PHB to worry about first. Kits will be an optional add on Celt with later once I've moved on to optional items.
 
One step at a time man, one step at a time. This is not going to be a quick project as it is. I still run 2e, and thus have an interest there. I can't guarantee I'd be interested in doing a 1e system. That will likely fall on someone else's shoulders to code.
 
I wasn't saying anything other than the fact that with a 2nd edition ruleset done, with its 2nd being based off of it, it shouldn't be too hard to adapt if/when we want.
 
I'm just saying not to count chickens based on the number of eggs Chris. This data could take a year or more to be ready for release. We've only started skinning the surface of the character building mechanisms and it's a slow process. I'm still putting the attribute score tables in. I've put a handful of spells in without descriptions. It's just going to take awhile to get this finished and usable and I can't promise it will be done quickly. I'm still trying to finish Deathwatch and that system will take priority over this one once Mathias can get to helping me with it.
 
I would be willing to contribute $$ towards this project, I would love to see AD&D 1e, AD&D 2e, Castles & Crusades, Swords & Wizardry, Basic Roleplaying etc. Just the core books PHB, DMG is sufficient in AD&D 1e UA would be needed though.

Start a blog with a donate button and I would happly controbute :)

Good luck
 
Like it was said earlier, if a 2e could be done a 1e system would be relatively easy.

Actually they are the same system for all practical purposes. I've been pretty bad at trying to do it myself but pretty good at adding new stuff to other systems. Here's hoping that someone who's good at this can do 2e.
 
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