Bug Reports - Community Created 3.5 D&D data set

[Sendric]

While I was experimenting making an Eldritch Disciple, I added hellfire warlock after I completed Eldritch Disciple. Immediately the tab for adding invocations disappeared. I could bring the tab back when I deleted Hellfire Warlock. Problem is I have no idea on how exactly to reproduce this error. I have encountered the problem before and sometimes it resolves itself when I reload Hero Lab and other times it doesn't. Other times it never happens. I have no idea what is causing the problem. You might want to check out how Hellfire Warlock interacts with builds that are not Warlock with Binder dips. I am starting the think the prestige class has a bug or two under the hood.

Ok, I don't know if I fixed it, but I did find some suspicious code which I have removed. In its place, I gave the Hellfire Warlock the ability to improve one class's spellcasting ability since that works for Warlocks now.

One last thing, I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but Paragnostic Apostle has a prereq bug related to Knowledge: Other.

That's correct. It's Knowledge (any other) as in any other knowledge besides Religion or Arcana.

 

[Dark_Soul]

Right, but I'm entering a Paragnostic Apostle as well and even with 5 ranks in another knowledge skill, it still pops up a validation error saying I don't have them. That's likely what LoneWolf is referring to.

I'm entering a human cleric 5/PaA 3 with 5 ranks in Arcana, Religion, Geography and 8 in The Planes, and the error pops up. Domains are Travel and Knowledge, and it has the Education regional feat from Player's Guide to Faerun.

 

[Sendric]

Right, but I'm entering a Paragnostic Apostle as well and even with 5 ranks in another knowledge skill, it still pops up a validation error saying I don't have them. That's likely what LoneWolf is referring to.

I'm entering a human cleric 5/PaA 3 with 5 ranks in Arcana, Religion, Geography and 8 in The Planes, and the error pops up. Domains are Travel and Knowledge, and it has the Education regional feat from Player's Guide to Faerun.

Ah, ok. Thanks for the clarification. Looks like there was a capitalization problem (skCatKnow should be SkCatKnow). I've fixed this for both the Apostle and Initiate.

 

[LoneWolf6155]

Found another error. Hierophant does not add magic levels.

 

[Sendric]

Found another error. Hierophant does not add magic levels.

I can't find this class in the community set. It might be a core issue, in which case it should be reported here:

http://forums.wolflair.com/showthread.php?t=54293

If it is a community issue, please provide the source for this class so I can find it. You should do this in general anyway, as it can sometimes be difficult to find things if I don't know what source book to look in.

 

[LoneWolf6155]

I can't find this class in the community set. It might be a core issue, in which case it should be reported here:

http://forums.wolflair.com/showthread.php?t=54293

If it is a community issue, please provide the source for this class so I can find it. You should do this in general anyway, as it can sometimes be difficult to find things if I don't know what source book to look in.

Sorry about that, It's core. I did find one bug where the Able Learner feat gives skill tricks for one point instead of two.

 

[Lord Magus]

Found another error. Hierophant does not add magic levels.

The DMG states that Hierophant levels stack with the base caster class levels to determine CL; however, the prestige class itself does not advance spell casting (as opposed to Archmage for example)

 

[Sendric]

I did find one bug where the Able Learner feat gives skill tricks for one point instead of two.

Fixed.

 

[Dark_Soul]

Thanks for the quick fix, Sendric. Paragnostic Apostle works great now that I tracked down the correction you made and did it on my end.

 

[Dark_Soul]

The Cloistered Cleric variant class is dependent on having the knowledge domain, so you lose the benefits if you lose the domain. This shouldn't happen. Cloistered Cleric should simply grant you another domain, but the only domain you can choose should be Knowledge.

 

[Sendric]

The Cloistered Cleric variant class is dependent on having the knowledge domain, so you lose the benefits if you lose the domain. This shouldn't happen. Cloistered Cleric should simply grant you another domain, but the only domain you can choose should be Knowledge.

The Cloistered Cleric variant class is part of core, so if this is a bug, it's a core bug.

That said, I'm not really sure I'm following you here. The variant is currently set up so that if the player doesn't select Knowledge, there's an error. This seems like the best way to handle it as things currently stand.

Also, I don't know what you mean about losing the benefits. If you don't have the Knowledge domain selected, you don't get it's benefits. This seems appropriate to me.

 

[Zorikune]

The Shadowcaster is not getting any of the magic levels provided by other prestige classes so cannot gain anymore mysteries nor is it getting any of the arcane class levels for the shadow familiar feat so cannot take familiars like the psuedodragon or the eladrin coure even with the required feats taken.

Example: I have 5 levels in Shadowcaster, 3 levels in Avenger, 2 levels in Noctumancer, and 10 levels in Arcane Trickster. I set the magic levels of Noctumancer to apply for both Avenger and Shadowcaster, and Arcane Trickster I set the 10 magic levels for Shadowcaster, however I'm still stuck with the 5 levels worth of mysteries given just for Shadowcaster, it does increases the amount of spells I get on Avenger though. Same with the Shadow Familiar feat, while I do get the familiar, its only applying the 5 levels of Shadowcaster only and not the 5 levels from there and the 3 levels from Avenger.

 

[Sendric]

The Shadowcaster is not getting any of the magic levels provided by other prestige classes so cannot gain anymore mysteries nor is it getting any of the arcane class levels for the shadow familiar feat so cannot take familiars like the psuedodragon or the eladrin coure even with the required feats taken.

Example: I have 5 levels in Shadowcaster, 3 levels in Avenger, 2 levels in Noctumancer, and 10 levels in Arcane Trickster. I set the magic levels of Noctumancer to apply for both Avenger and Shadowcaster, and Arcane Trickster I set the 10 magic levels for Shadowcaster, however I'm still stuck with the 5 levels worth of mysteries given just for Shadowcaster, it does increases the amount of spells I get on Avenger though. Same with the Shadow Familiar feat, while I do get the familiar, its only applying the 5 levels of Shadowcaster only and not the 5 levels from there and the 3 levels from Avenger.

Thanks. I'll look into it.

 

[Illyahr]

Hey Sendric, was there an issue with the ToB file I sent you? The prestige classes didn't show up with that update.

 

[Dark_Soul]

If there's a way to flip the logic around, where taking cloistered cleric grants the Knowledge domain as a bonus (instead of giving an error if they don't have it), it would be more correct.

The reasoning behind this is because some popular character archetypes take Cloistered Cleric levels, then trade that domain away for the Knowledge Devotion feat. The character is still a cloistered cleric (with all the attendant class changes), they just don't have the Knowledge domain anymore.

 

[Sendric]

Hey Sendric, was there an issue with the ToB file I sent you? The prestige classes didn't show up with that update.

No. I realized recently that I forgot to integrate it. I will be doing so soon. I missed a couple of other things too. It's been a hectic few months.

 

[Illyahr]

The samurai (CW) has an alignment requirement of Lawful Good when it should be any lawful.

The samurai's Two Swords as One class ability also needs a doneif statement as the OA variant replaces the ability but the scripting remains active.

Versatile Spellcasting (Races of the Dragon) has a prerequisite of being able to spontaneously cast spells but is programmed to only recognize spontaneous arcane spells.

 

[Sendric]

If there's a way to flip the logic around, where taking cloistered cleric grants the Knowledge domain as a bonus (instead of giving an error if they don't have it), it would be more correct.

The reasoning behind this is because some popular character archetypes take Cloistered Cleric levels, then trade that domain away for the Knowledge Devotion feat. The character is still a cloistered cleric (with all the attendant class changes), they just don't have the Knowledge domain anymore.

So the mechanic in this case is to be able to choose either the Knowledge Domain or the Knowledge Devotion feat. Presumably, if the character chooses the feat instead, they don't receive the additional spells, correct?

 

[Sendric]

The samurai (CW) has an alignment requirement of Lawful Good when it should be any lawful.

Fixed

The samurai's Two Swords as One class ability also needs a doneif statement as the OA variant replaces the ability but the scripting remains active.

I'll look into this. We probably don't need both if one is replacing the other.

Versatile Spellcasting (Races of the Dragon) has a prerequisite of being able to spontaneously cast spells but is programmed to only recognize spontaneous arcane spells.

Interestingly, there is no Hero.SpontDiv tag, so I'll have to make a foreach loop to handle this.

 

[Illyahr]

I'll look into this. We probably don't need both if one is replacing the other.

The basic version has the hero gain TWF when he is equipped with a "katana" (bastard sword) and "wakizashi" (short sword). The OA variant doesn't have this ability so it is disabled. What I mean is that the ability fades out like it's supposed to but the script that checks equipped weapons and activates the TWF feat still runs