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Bug, I think Armor Check Penalty and Dex bonus and Armor issue

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Rimfaxe

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Hi all
Skill in Balance at 2. I am a rogue, Dex at 17 (+3) i don the Studded Leather Armor (-1 to Armor Check Penalty) and would expect my skill now in Balance to be (2+3-1) = +4, but it is still only +2.

The same for all other Dex based skills... I've looked through the forum and can's seem to find an answer... Am i calculating this wrong or is there some other thing I'm overlooking?

When I untick the armor, the skills do not change either.. only when I delete the armor does the +3 Dex bonus kick in.

I tried in the Pathfinder system and it seems to calculate properly... is there a d20 system rule I'm overlooking?

Cheers
Rimfaxe
 
Works fine for me. I created a rogue with exactly those things. you must have some other stuff affecting.

Im thinking, you have an encumbrance of medium. Because when i made my encumbrance medium, i got the same as you.
 
Encumbrance makes sense here, especially where you stated the changes didn't occur until you deleted the armor from the character. One thing that gets often over-looked for encumbrance purposes is money. Those coins get heavy pretty fast. :)
 
ha ha, indeed... it was the encumbrance... thank you for pointing me in the right direction. I feel like a goose.
 
lol.

ive been playing D&D for over 30 years, D20, for over 13 and HeroLab still reminds me things...
 
Yeah, we routinely still get someone reporting max dex issues that turn out to be encumberance.
 
One of the things I love about the pathfinder program that I wish the D20 one does is the ability to click on a skill and it shows all the calculations. With d20 i still findmyself wondering "wait... why is this that?" And sometimes, its easy to figure out (like this encumberance example) but other times not so much, so its hard to know if something is actually a bug, or something else.
 
mirtos said:
One of the things I love about the pathfinder program that I wish the D20 one does is the ability to click on a skill and it shows all the calculations. With d20 i still findmyself wondering "wait... why is this that?" And sometimes, its easy to figure out (like this encumberance example) but other times not so much, so its hard to know if something is actually a bug, or something else.
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This is something I so want to add in actually. As it is very nice for gamers to see.
 
I could use some help figuring this out, thank you in advance :)

Lvl 9 - 1/2 Elf Ranger, I'm receiving a -2 'untyped penalty' to ranged attacks. Any ideas?

Encumbrance: Currently 30/230 (light load up to 76 lbs)
Armor: +5 Elven Chain (which does have -2 armor check penalty, but I thought that only affected skills & not ranged attacks?)
Weapon: +1 Comp Longbow
 
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