Arcane (Spellbook) Caster with Domain spells.

[TobyFox2002]

I am wondering how I would work in an arcane. I am working on a class that that uses the wizarding spell list but has a selection of domains and domain spells.

Everything seems to work fine except when you try and add the domain spells. It gives you an error saying that you need to add them to a spellbook first. Is this a known issue?

I'm really a bit confused. From what I can tell it seems to be an issue with CasterType.MemBook and how that interacts with domain spells. I've tried a few ways to get around this but none has worked.

 

[Mathias]

If they prepare their main spells from a spellbook, why wouldn't the bonus spells also be prepared from a spellbook? That's the way bonus spells from a wizard school are handled, and a cleric, who prepares spells from their whole list, also prepares their bonus spells from the whole list that's available for those spells - so the type of spellcasting stays consistent within a class, for both the regular spells and the bonus spells.

 

[TobyFox2002]

Actually, wizard does not prepare their secondary spells from a spellbook. They are drawn from the list of spells from the list of spells associated with their specialized school.

As for cleric, they are drawn from the list of spells attached to their domain. So the moment you select the domain the list of acceptable options should already be populated. The user shouldn't need to do anything more.

As it stands with the class, they pick their domains and then click add secondary spells and it gives you an error as if they have not added it to their spellbook.

 

[charlieluce]

Actually, wizard does not prepare their secondary spells from a spellbook. They are drawn from the list of spells from the list of spells associated with their specialized school.

Not according to Paizo:

Each arcane school gives the wizard a number of school powers. In addition, specialist wizards receive an additional spell slot of each spell level he can cast, from 1st on up. Each day, a wizard can prepare a spell from his specialty school in that slot. This spell must be in the wizard's spellbook. A wizard can select a spell modified by a metamagic feat to prepare in his school slot, but it uses up a higher-level spell slot. Wizards with the universalist school do not receive a school slot.

(Emphasis mine)

 

[TobyFox2002]

Yes, sorry I got confused between domain and specialzied school, that latter is what I am trying to do. Replace specialized school with domain access.

From what are saying, the reason it is failing is that none of those domain spells are on the list.. which is causing as an issue. I will have to think about how

 

[charlieluce]

So the class combines normal Wizard spellbook casting with Cleric-style domain casting? So the spell is fixed for each spell level, right? Could you treat it as a Spell-Like Ability?

 

[TobyFox2002]

No, I could not treat it as a spell like abilities. Spells have certain functionality that does not exists with spell-like abilities. They are handled differently than spell like abilities. And, that is not how the class is supposed to work. If they worked that way I would be asking how I could apply those domain spells as spell like abilities.

What I am asking is, how do I get these to function as they are supposed to. Like domain spells. If that is not possible, I will have to find a way to jury rig this so it can be done in some manner that still keeps them as secondary spells.

 

[Farling]

What I am asking is, how do I get these to function as they are supposed to. Like domain spells.

Just to clarify, when you say "like domain spells", do you mean "like how Clerics have domain spells"?

 

[Silveras]

To begin with, it may help if the original description of the ability were posted. At the least, that should lead to better-informed suggestions.

 

[TobyFox2002]

The class ability text is as follows:

A tantrist chooses two of the following domains: Body, Knowledge, Perversion, or Pleasure. Each domain gives your tantrist access to a domain spell at each spell level, from 1st level on, as well as a granted power. Your tantrist gets the granted power of both domains selected. With access to two domain spells at a given spell level, a tantrist prepares one or the other each day. If a domain spell is not on the sorcerer/wizard spells list, a tantrist can prepare it only in his domain slot.

I apologize, I didn't think I needed it. I've often been told I stink at explaining things.

 

[Mathias]

Okay, so you don't add the spells to your spellbook or anything - just to the secondary spell allowed list.

So, write a script that pulls the ClsScAllSp tags from the domain, and then pushes them to the class.

Do this before the script named "Spell Restriction Expressions", which is at Post-Level/10000.

 

[Silveras]

I apologize, I didn't think I needed it. I've often been told I stink at explaining things.

No worries... it is more because sometimes different people reading the same wording understand it in different ways, so starting with the original gives slightly better chances of agreeing on the meaning.