Lj Stephens
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Hi! I can say that Shadowrun 6 will be supported by Hero Lab Online. There is currently no plan to include it with Hero Lab Classic. Thanks for asking!
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Hi! I can say that Shadowrun 6 will be supported by Hero Lab Online. There is currently no plan to include it with Hero Lab Classic. Thanks for asking!
RW can store a HL classic portfolio file, and show the embedded statblock from that portfolio file.
RW can store a web link, so you could put the link to a character you've created in HL online. (No stat preview unless you create a PDF from HL online and manually store it inside RW.)
HLO still requires a lot of development to support ships for Starfinder, and parties and shared loot, and probably other functions too. This is just to get it to a state that it can support what was originally planned.
There is continuing work on data entry for both Starfinder and PF2 as Paizo keep producing more content and also their PF and SF society scenarios, boons, etc.
Therefore, it could be along while before they can spare anybody to restart RW development.
BJ answered this to my little rant on Facebook:
That was two days ago.
Yes, hopefully.
I am worried about the implications of HLO, too. I do not like to be too dependent on cloud solutions, even though they have advantages.
And the user-friendliness of HL/HLO compared to RW is a problem. Since I'd love to have that integration, too, I bought the HL author kit a while ago and just failed to accomplish anything with it.
But other things are way higher on my wish list:
https://forums.wolflair.com/showthread.php?t=61552
Even though my last comment in that thread seems to have vanished.
That was two days ago.
Yes, hopefully.
I am worried about the implications of HLO, too. I do not like to be too dependent on cloud solutions, even though they have advantages.
And the user-friendliness of HL/HLO compared to RW is a problem. Since I'd love to have that integration, too, I bought the HL author kit a while ago and just failed to accomplish anything with it.
But other things are way higher on my wish list:
https://forums.wolflair.com/showthread.php?t=61552
Even though my last comment in that thread seems to have vanished.
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When I started planning my current PF campaign I put some real effort into trying to customize HL.
Stuff like adding deities and languages was easy enough but limiting what feats/classes/spells were available simply always broke HL. I gave up after something like 6 months of struggling with it. When HLO was announced I assumed they would make improving /changing how all that worked so as to make it easier to customize but alas that was not to be. I've ignored HLO since. I run my game in my friends basement and his WiFi isn't great so relying on a net connection for character management simply isn't realistic.
Stuff like adding deities and languages was easy enough but limiting what feats/classes/spells were available simply always broke HL. I gave up after something like 6 months of struggling with it. When HLO was announced I assumed they would make improving /changing how all that worked so as to make it easier to customize but alas that was not to be. I've ignored HLO since. I run my game in my friends basement and his WiFi isn't great so relying on a net connection for character management simply isn't realistic.
Derailing and diverging ...
I get that it's not your house, so your options are limited. With that said, I think I'm just too tied to technology. If there was somewhere in my house that had a crappy WiFi signal, I'd either be spending my time in another room or there would be an AP installed, pronto.
To me, in my home, no WiFi is like no light - it's a limitation that doesn't need to be there and needs to be corrected.
But, I'll acknowledge that not everyone has every option.
Yup. I managed to add in a couple of weapons and generic equipment to Hero Lab. I made that work OK. I tried to add a custom race, and that failed miserably.
That said, when I was running Shadowrun, having that integration between Hero Lab and Realm Works for all my encounters was AWESOME....
Welp. That's disappointing. Again.
By the way, if you're going to stop supporting HLC could you at least give those of us that have been supporting it, and by proxy, you, the decency of telling us that? And to be clear, not adding new products to HLC counts as not supporting it.
I do use the encounter builder and the combat manager. It is one of those things I couldn't live without. The ability to build the encounter and put it into a snippet in RW and then merge it into the PC party portfolio to run the combat is invaluable and if I was LWD I'd advertise the shit out of it.
Derailing and diverging ...
I get that it's not your house, so your options are limited. With that said, I think I'm just too tied to technology. If there was somewhere in my house that had a crappy WiFi signal, I'd either be spending my time in another room or there would be an AP installed, pronto.
To me, in my home, no WiFi is like no light - it's a limitation that doesn't need to be there and needs to be corrected.
But, I'll acknowledge that not everyone has every option.
Setting up an AP in my home is one thing, I can and (will) do this.
But sometimes my provider has a hickup. Or I GM while travelling by train or while encamped. So, secure and reliable network connection is not always a given.
But I digress, too.
They have said this several times in the HLO forums.
All new game systems will only be avaiable in HLO.
They will continue to support existing game systems in HLC, but not add new game systems.
Note that "new game systems" includes "new editions of existing game systems".
Only if the game systems HLC supports are dead.
Will be using it for a while for PF1 still.
Maidhc O Casain
Well-known member
Like, for the rest of my gaming life... PLENTY of PF1 content for me to be playing it until I expire of old age, at the rate I game.
JustinThomason
Well-known member
So much this!
One caveat, if it ever gets to HLO and the GM tools are in HLO I will switch.
I wonder which will happen first... PF1 in HLO, or GM tools in HLO, or calendars in RW (I hear they're already in that other web-based competitor).
This is exactly how I run Shadowrun, it's amazing, it works great and it saves me tons of time as a GM. This is the sort of thing I want Realm Works to do more of.