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An Update from Rob

ruhar said:
I am shocked, saddened, and angry. (FYI before you slam me for that there is nothing wrong with feeling all that including anger.)
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All three of these work for me as well. While RW isn't quite dead - it's still available, the servers are up and running for syncing, etc - and I'm super glad of that, I am an Alpha Wolf backer who doesn't believe he got his $250 worth. Based on my experiences with Hero Lab (Classic) over the years I thought this was a good investment. Guess I learned my lesson.
 
Maidhc O Casain said:
the servers are up and running for syncing, etc - and I'm super glad of that, I am an Alpha Wolf backer who doesn't believe he got his $250 worth. Based on my experiences with Hero Lab (Classic) over the years I thought this was a good investment. Guess I learned my lesson.
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That brings up an interesting question. Will the servers remain up? If so, how long? Will we be charged for it?

As a fellow investor I question what that too but at least the program as is has a lot of value. Kickstarter is a risk. You have decide if the gamble is worth the risk.
 
Rob said in the update that the servers will remain up. FWIW, my understanding is that nothing is going away - there's just not going to be anything new.

As to what they'll charge for server access... who knows? The lifetime 'top tier' server access with no charge was my primary reason for pledging at that level.
 
Maidhc O Casain said:
Rob said in the update that the servers will remain up. FWIW, my understanding is that nothing is going away - there's just not going to be anything new.

As to what they'll charge for server access... who knows? The lifetime 'top tier' server access with no charge was my primary reason for pledging at that level.
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Since they aren't going to support RW I hope they will consider a lower subscription rate.
 
I have to say that this is truly saddening. I am one of the original beta testers for RW and to see it no longer being produced, is maddening and saddening. I lived for touting this piece of software to my friends and family. But I do agree in that the software and it's potential is just not "there" yet compared to where it should be at this time.

I have been using it for such a long time and will continue to do so for as long as I can. I would hate to see this be no longer supported to allow it's users to no longer use it at all. I am glad that I can still enter data into it.. but it makes me nervous that I might not be able to in the future.. I hope that this is not ever going to be the case at all?
 
wow I just blew over 100$ with exchange when content market was released.....Now I feel like a sucker, I hoped that my purchased would feed the beast and show value, now i feel like the sucker, I paid a fair chunk of money for a shelved product. Release, money grab, and run. May not have been intent, but it sure feels like it on the other side of the fence.

With out any hope of refund.

OH yeah feeling like supporting HLO now.

/sigh I guess I should have known better.
 
Exmortis said:
I paid a fair chunk of money for a shelved product. Release, money grab, and run. May not have been intent, but it sure feels like it on the other side of the fence.
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You still GET the content though.. it is not going to go away. So you will be able to use said content like you would any data that you enter yourself. So the value is still there. They just aren't producing more for RW is all. So I would not say that you "blew" the money.. because it is still your content that you can use. :)
 
there is still the possibility that they will reanimate the project at a later stage, when the business model works better again?

Who knows, maybe they will sell it, Iam sure that you can earn a lot from this tool by implemententing lets say top 10 of the requsted features. Calendar, web and some player functionality sure would help in sales. anyways, I will also continue to work with RW. Win 10 is there, Ill be able to do a bare bones export in the worst case...

Still crossing the fingers that eventually Lwd or someone else will pickup RW.
 
That's a very big bummer. My hope was that we'd get the opportunity to export to web at some point.

It's pretty much the only reason I backed as a beta user way back in the Kickstarter.

Oh well, at least I can use it as a rules manager for my game.
 
Unfortunate.

Tough decisions for the company and tough situations for the employees and those laid off by this restructuring.

Realm Works is still valuable and useful tool in a very niche area of DM campaign management (to my knowledge). Plus, those who have utilized its potential have invested a lot of time in it.

The grim reality looks like RW will not develop further officially. However, I would like to see how the community could continue the potential it still has.

Plus, what about the opportunity of trading RW databases? Some people have done an excellent job in building up rules and private gameworld databases. Is there any opportunity to share that content with others?
 
At this point is anyone even a little bit surprised? It's been almost 7 years of next-to-no communication, user created solutions to functionality gaps, and in-jokes about missing promised features.

Being unable to make a product like this workable in 10 years (since development started) is testament to either terrible design decisions, terrible project management skills, a complete lack of willingness to resource the project properly, or an inability to admit that the product wasn't going anywhere a long time ago, or perhaps a combination of all four. If you couldn't give it the resources to make it work, that should have been (and I suspect it was) clear a long time ago and your customers deserved to know long before this point.

Seriously. 10 years, and you walk away with initial promises unfulfilled.

Poor form. Boo.
 
MaxSupernova said:
At this point is anyone even a little bit surprised? It's been almost 7 years of next-to-no communication, user created solutions to functionality gaps, and in-jokes about missing promised features.

Being unable to make a product like this workable in 10 years (since development started) is testament to either terrible design decisions, terrible project management skills, a complete lack of willingness to resource the project properly, or an inability to admit that the product wasn't going anywhere a long time ago, or perhaps a combination of all four. If you couldn't give it the resources to make it work, that should have been (and I suspect it was) clear a long time ago and your customers deserved to know long before this point.

Seriously. 10 years, and you walk away with initial promises unfulfilled.

Poor form. Boo.
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You left out the true reasons, small (very) business and very poor health of lead developer of software for almost 3 years. The software has not been around for 10 years
 
I think as well that it's a bit of overreacting it's not like our life or job depend on it.
Many IT Projects still fail now adays... vor various reasons.
 
gloranphile said:
That's a very big bummer. My hope was that we'd get the opportunity to export to web at some point.
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I guess you already know that there is a tool which can be used to eventually get you to the web, via create realm export, run tool to convert it to HTML, upload HTML files to web site.
 
Nikmal said:
You left out the true reasons, small (very) business and very poor health of lead developer of software for almost 3 years. The software has not been around for 10 years
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Yes it has.

In the kickstarter (almost 7 years ago) they claimed to have been in development for 3 years.
 
Nikmal said:
You still GET the content though.. it is not going to go away. So you will be able to use said content like you would any data that you enter yourself. So the value is still there. They just aren't producing more for RW is all. So I would not say that you "blew" the money.. because it is still your content that you can use. :)
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Not true. The data I enter myself can be selectively exported and imported.
 
I have a lot of things I'd like to say on this point, negative and positive.

The one thing I think is worth saying, with all sincerity and honesty is this:
Rob, regarding your health issues, you've been in my thoughts, and I'm glad you're well now.
 
EightBitz said:
Not true. The data I enter myself can be selectively exported and imported.
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Not sure where you are going with this though? It is true that you can selectively import/export data to and from your realm that you created. But that is not what was being said above. He was saying that the value of the money he spent to buy product for his realm is no longer there. I disagreed as he is using said product and therefor the value is there.

The data he entered can still be exported if he should choose to do so though.
 
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