M&M 2nd ed. Adjust Tab - Blinded condition

[Nigel Fogg The Wayfarer]

Perhaps it's just with my characters (yes, plural) but I suspect this is probably true for all users....

When I select the Blinded condition under the Adjust tab it is correcly applying the loss of Dodge Bonus but it is only applying an additional -1 to DEF instead of the additional -2 to DEF as stated in the 'mouse-over question mark' description.

Should this be verified as a true bug and not just a quirk of my copy (v3.6g), I hope this report is in time for a fix to be made and included with the next M&M update.

Keep up the good work,
Nigel Fogg, aka The Wayfarer

 

[FifthWanderer]

Bug confirmed. Also note that when you mouse over the Defense Bonus on the Abilities tab, the little pop-up help tip correctly notes the -2 penalty.

 

[Nigel Fogg The Wayfarer]

Bug confirmed. Also note that when you mouse over the Defense Bonus on the Abilities tab, the little pop-up help tip correctly notes the -2 penalty.

I see....for my character with Dodge Focus 3....when I mouse over the DEF Bonus on the Abilities Tab I get:

9 = 10 + -1 + [greyed out] 2 (dodge, not counted)

Breakdown: Blinded (-2), Dodge Focus 3 (+3)

When it should show:

8 = 10 + -2 + [greyed out] 3 (dodge, not counted)

Breakdown: Blinded (-2), Dodge Focus 3 (+3)

Also, since I've been led back to the Abilities Tab.....the breakdowns of the bonuses for an Ability still show User (+10) for a stat of 10 and User (+17) for a stat of 17 and User (+9) for a stat of 9 when it should respectively be User (+0) and User (+7) and User (-1)

Nigel Fogg, aka The Wayfarer

 

[Nigel Fogg The Wayfarer]

Originally Posted by FifthWanderer
Bug confirmed. Also note that when you mouse over the Defense Bonus on the Abilities tab, the little pop-up help tip correctly notes the -2 penalty.

I see....for my character with Dodge Focus 3....when I mouse over the DEF Bonus on the Abilities Tab I get:

9 = 10 + -1 + [greyed out] 2 (dodge, not counted)

Breakdown: Blinded (-2), Dodge Focus 3 (+3)

When it should show:

8 = 10 + -2 + [greyed out] 3 (dodge, not counted)

Breakdown: Blinded (-2), Dodge Focus 3 (+3)

Also, since I've been led back to the Abilities Tab.....the breakdowns of the bonuses for an Ability still show User (+10) for a stat of 10 and User (+17) for a stat of 17 and User (+9) for a stat of 9 when it should respectively be User (+0) and User (+7) and User (-1)

Nigel Fogg, aka The Wayfarer

**bump**

Hi Colen,

Just bumping this one up since you're reading/responding this evening.

Thanks in advance for fixing how "Extra: Perception" wasn't being reflected a power's summary.

Keep up the good work & I'm glad you are able to return your attention to M&M.

Nigel Fogg, aka The Wayfarer

 

[Colen]

Thanks, I'll make sure this is on my list of 2e fixes to make.

 

[Nigel Fogg The Wayfarer]

Thanks, I'll make sure this is on my list of 2e fixes to make.

Hi Colen,

Excellent to see the improvements in v4.3 unfortunately, I have to be the bearer of bad news of some things that are still broken.

Perhaps this is due to the funky rule that half of any additional DEF a character buys on the Abilities Tab is considered a Dodge Bonus.

I see you are applying an across the board -4 penalty for being blinded. I looked at Green Ronin's 2nd Ed. errata and I don't see where they've bumped it from -2 to -4.

The upshot being a DEF at the non-Hero High standard of 10 OR bought to 11, 12 or 13 should result in a Blinded DEF of 8, 9, 9 and 10 since they only lose the Dodge portion of any increase that was bought for a character before the -2 is applied. v4.3 is instead showing it as 6, 7, 8 and 9 respectively.

I must also, sadly, note that the Breakdown under Abilities is still mis-reading. A stat of 17 is being shown as User +17 instead of User +7 and a stat of 8 is being shown as User +8 instead of User -2.

If these two things are just the way things have to be in order for all the rest to work just say so and I'll stop bugging you on them.

Nigel Fogg, aka The Wayfarer